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    My maintence is right around 2400 calories. I'm currently 159 pounds...he's 237lbs!...Caloric requirments for each individual will come down to several factors, to name a few!, height/weight, sex, age, stress, activity,TEF, hormones, sleep, LBM to fat ratio ect. The best thing anyone can do is follow the guidelines to find their maintence, stick with it for a few weeks, and adjust as needed.
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    Originally Posted by gymblogger View Post
    I think its funny that you follow my posts on these forums and disagree with every single thing I say. Im telling you what has worked for me. 1500 calories a day is not "extremely" low as u say it is. Hes not gonna kick the bucket or fall over dead by taking in 1500 calories a day. Do you ever have any useful info to spread or do you just disagree with other ppls posts?
    WTF lol

    You think I don't help people ever??

    I don't follow your posts, I reply to threads. Not my fault if you post crap
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    What? Look at what I bolded earlier in reference to typo
    Yes 200 grams of carbs sorry man
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    So I'm dead set on this to start off 2532, them probably deduct 10% next week or so
    237 protein
    100fats
    171 carbs
    So it seems like I want to try to use my fats as a energy source as well, it sounds almost like ketosis here with this but I know the carbs are high for that. Do most of you guys use the Macros on your off days as well as training days and should I do a refeed day if I'm trying to cut. If so what should I take my carbs too, and does fats and proteins remain the same.
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    Originally Posted by Gymhero25 View Post
    So I'm dead set on this to start off 2532, them probably deduct 10% next week or so
    237 protein
    100fats
    171 carbs
    So it seems like I want to try to use my fats as a energy source as well, it sounds almost like ketosis here with this but I know the carbs are high for that. Do most of you guys use the Macros on your off days as well as training days and should I do a refeed day if I'm trying to cut. If so what should I take my carbs too, and does fats and proteins remain the same.
    Keep your calories and macros the same daily for ease. No need to micromanage
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    Originally Posted by Gymhero25 View Post
    So I'm dead set on this to start off 2532, them probably deduct 10% next week or so
    237 protein
    100fats
    171 carbs
    So it seems like I want to try to use my fats as a energy source as well, it sounds almost like ketosis here with this but I know the carbs are high for that. Do most of you guys use the Macros on your off days as well as training days and should I do a refeed day if I'm trying to cut. If so what should I take my carbs too, and does fats and proteins remain the same.
    No, this is nothing like ketosis. In ketosis your body produces ketones from a lack of carbohydrate intake. But fat is still used as an energy source even when not in ketosis.
    When in a caloric defecit your body will release FFA(fatty free acids) from the fat cells as a form of usable energy (as a result the fat cells will shrink and over time you will apear leaner) along with glucose being your main source obviously. Also there's no need to change caloric/macro requirments daily( although itd be wize to change food intake or consume a variety of food to ensure micronutrient suffiency. I would stick with your plan for at least a couple weeks to monitor weight and then adjust as needed.
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    WTF lol

    You think I don't help people ever??

    I don't follow your posts, I reply to threads. Not my fault if you post crap
    I dont post crap...I post on my experience and what has worked for me in the past. What works for me might not work for you, and he doesnt have to try my methods. Its just a another persons approach. I dont wnna argue or bicker back and forth..Just trying to help.
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    Originally Posted by gymblogger View Post
    I dont post crap...I post on my experience and what has worked for me in the past. What works for me might not work for you, and he doesnt have to try my methods. Its just a another persons approach. I dont wnna argue or bicker back and forth..Just trying to help.
    Irony much? You told him 2800 calories is too much to cut. Are you him? What works for him might not work for you....

    You're the one stating I don't help people
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Irony much? You told him 2800 calories is too much to cut. Are you him? What works for him might not work for you....

    You're the one stating I don't help people
    Well, your right on that...everyone is different and has different needs. Let me rephrase that....In my opinion, if he weighs 235 lbs, 2800calories is too much to cut. And that is only my opinion based on what Ive had success with in the past. I weighed 210lbs and cut down to 183 eating 1500 calories a day and maintained a very muscular and vascular physique.
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    Originally Posted by gymblogger View Post
    In my opinion, if he weighs 235 lbs, 2800calories is too much to cut. And that is only my opinion based on what Ive had success with in the past.
    Basing recommends on opinion is often a bad idea.

    It's necessary to understand the OP's BMR, his activity and his likely TDEE, from which caloric intake can be properly calibrated.

    For example, I weight just over 200 pounds and I'd lose weight if I consume under ~3,600 calories per day.



    Originally Posted by gymblogger View Post
    I weighed 210lbs and cut down to 183 eating 1500 calories a day and maintained a very muscular and vascular physique.
    Lots of people engage in unhealthy behaviors, but that's not a good thing.
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    lol..well like I said, It worked for me and Ive been a certified fitness trainer, and Ive worked out for over 20 years. I took in 1500 well balanced and well timed calories and still maintained my strength, vascularity and muscular physique....and Im still here better than ever. So Im proof that while you guys might not agree with it, it does work and has worked and it didnt kill me or harm me in anyway.
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    Originally Posted by gymblogger View Post
    lol..well like I said, It worked for me and Ive been a certified fitness trainer, and Ive worked out for over 20 years. I took in 1500 well balanced and well timed calories and still maintained my strength, vascularity and muscular physique....and Im still here better than ever. So Im proof that while you guys might not agree with it, it does work and has worked and it didnt kill me or harm me in anyway.
    If you smoked a pack of cigarettes per day during that period, it's quite probably the outcome would have been the same.

    Now do you see the problem with your logic?

    Anyway, I urge you to at least learn the basics about nutrition as your posts and the content on your "blog" imply that you're truly clueless.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    If you smoked a pack of cigarettes per day during that period, it's quite probably the outcome would have been the same.

    Now do you see the problem with your logic?

    Anyway, I urge you to at least learn the basics about nutrition as your posts and the content on your "blog" imply that you're truly clueless.
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    can't we all just get along, an example of my meal today after hitting legs
    Basmati rice with cranberries and almonds 1/2 cup dry
    Spinach 1 cup raw
    Pure coconut oil I cooked in 1tsb
    8oz boneless chicken breast
    1tbsp of extra virgin olive oil
    1tbsp of bottle mandarin sauce

    Cals822, pro 59 grams, 36 grams of fat, 70.5 carbs

    This was my 3rd meal so far I'm at
    Cals 1452
    Fat 59
    Carbs 112
    Protein 127. So it looks like I'm on point. I still have 1048cals to play with.
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    Originally Posted by gymblogger View Post
    lol..well like I said, It worked for me and Ive been a certified fitness trainer, and Ive worked out for over 20 years. I took in 1500 well balanced and well timed calories and still maintained my strength, vascularity and muscular physique....and Im still here better than ever. So Im proof that while you guys might not agree with it, it does work and has worked and it didnt kill me or harm me in anyway.
    What? "Well timed"??
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    Another question for you guys. Ex myfitness says I have 245 cals remaining for the day. Now I did 500 calories today doing intervals jogging on treadmill. Do I calculate this into the equation so technically I have745cals or just stick with what I eat. Oh yeah I am done eating for the night
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    quick update since I switch my calories to 2500. step on the scale today because it's in the middle of the week. weight in at 235.5 happy camper so far. Drop carbs 100grams down to 178-180, and don't know if it was the 500 cals on the treadmill but this is great motivation....
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    Originally Posted by Gymhero25 View Post
    quick update since I switch my calories to 2500. step on the scale today because it's in the middle of the week. weight in at 235.5 happy camper so far. Drop carbs 100grams down to 178-180, and don't know if it was the 500 cals on the treadmill but this is great motivation....
    Drop carbs = water weight lost

    Remember every 1g of glycogen holds ~3g of water
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    I have not doubt that it's water weight, but isn't that the key to fat loss as well,,, high protein, moderate fats, and low carbs
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    Originally Posted by Gymhero25 View Post
    I have not doubt that it's water weight, but isn't that the key to fat loss as well,,, high protein, moderate fats, and low carbs
    No

    You can lose just as much fat with high carbs
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    Yeah I guess it don't seem to work for me. When I hit fats and protein, it leaves with like 178 carbs so far I'm liking the new macro change. Fats are keeping me full, I'm making sure I always hit 180-200 grams of protein
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    Here is a little update for ya! Love the help so far. Thinking starting a log here soon
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    Sick

    Allright another quesiton for you , I've been sick here the past few days.. the past 2 days were by far the worst days. I did keep track of everything I eat and drink. I didn't eat my fat or protein goals for those days, howevery I did go over my carbs on both days to drinking a lot of gatorade. I was still at a caloric defecit on both days at about 2200-2350 calories. Since I still went over my carbs and didn't hit other macros' you think I still could be on the right track since my caloric intake was still under?
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