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    Tips on how to get a flat stomach?

    Hey guys,
    Ive been working out for some time now, and put on a lot of muscle.
    But i do have a slight belly. i do ab ripper x from p90 but need something a little more effective,
    any tips or suggestions? i took green coffee bean pills and they didnt work.
    I really want a flat stomach by the beginning of summer
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    Change your diet. It works.
    I was once told it would be 2 years before I could even think about walking again.
    That was 6 months ago.
    I ran a mile today.
    I plan to run 2 tomorrow.
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    eat less, work out abs more. Throw that p90 garbage and green coffee bean.
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    Actually, the ab ripper is pretty legit. Especially if you want the cut abs/V's, seeing as how it's high intensity and it keeps your heart rate up.
    I was once told it would be 2 years before I could even think about walking again.
    That was 6 months ago.
    I ran a mile today.
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    Fork put downs supersetted with plate push-aways should net you results.
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    ^Hilarious! Seriously though, abs come from the kitchen bro.
    I see all these people searching for the secret to gain muscle/get stronger. There are two secrets actually; going to the gym and eating.

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    Always tempted to neg people who elicit and then ignore advice or anyone advising noobs to do 5+ day bodybuilder splits.

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    Just clean up your diet a lil bit with a few cardio sessions and give it at least a good 2months. The results will come
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Fork put downs supersetted with plate push-aways should net you results.
    lol'd. ^translation - caloric deficit. it's as easy as that.
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    Iron it...

    Or calorie deficit by around 200-300 to start...
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    Originally Posted by godsamurai View Post
    eat less, work out abs more. Throw that p90 garbage and green coffee bean.
    This. Trust me, I spent a year going down the p90x avenue and it does not deliver what bodybuilding does.
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    come on bro p90x to get em ab muscles toned bro.
    u aware u aware?
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    Originally Posted by SexyBack1 View Post
    come on bro p90x to get em ab muscles toned bro.
    u aware u aware?
    Lol

    I'm going to let you all in on a little secret.

    My 'before' pic on my bodyspace is AFTER over a year of doing p90x as vigorously as I could.

    If I had cut down to a 6 pack back then, I'd probably have to weigh 130 lbs.

    OP my suggestion is doing decline weighted ab crunches, and perfect your diet. Expose your core to heavy resistance so that you struggle to complete 10 reps.
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    Originally Posted by kanis999 View Post
    Lol

    I'm going to let you all in on a little secret.

    My 'before' pic on my bodyspace is AFTER over a year of doing p90x as vigorously as I could.

    If I had cut down to a 6 pack back then, I'd probably have to weigh 130 lbs.

    OP my suggestion is doing decline weighted ab crunches, and perfect your diet. Expose your core to heavy resistance so that you struggle to complete 10 reps.
    Decline weighted ab crunches + decline setups + hanging leg raises + a perfect diet has done wonders for me, totaly agree with u, i was jokeing up incase u havnt noticed
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    Insanity Workout

    Slavko11, I saw the suggestion from godsamurai about dropping the P90X workout and the green coffee beans. The P90X is intensive, and many ppl are following it with success. Maybe try the Insanity workout for a change. It's a killer home workout, working well for lots of ppl. I'm injured, so sorry I can't give you a personal testimony for now. It is one worth trying if you're at an intermediate level already. Good luck on getting that 6-pack, Amigo. Here is a comparison of the two workouts that I was looking into, by the way: http://healthybodyguru.com/?s=90X+workout
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    1.Drop your caloric deficit down to about 250 -- 350 kcals per day.
    2. Up your cardio to at least 30 minutes 5 days a week. HIIT is extremely effective in torching body fat in less time..you can do this up to 4 days a week, but I wouldn't suggest it on consecutive days (or do different types of excercies if you do).
    3. Check your carbs. Carbs can add to lower belly bloat if taken in excess.
    4. Try to drink a gallon of water a day to flush toxins out. If toxins build up, it causes edema in the fat tissue...which also bloats your midsection.
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    Originally Posted by kanis999 View Post
    Lol

    I'm going to let you all in on a little secret.

    My 'before' pic on my bodyspace is AFTER over a year of doing p90x as vigorously as I could.

    If I had cut down to a 6 pack back then, I'd probably have to weigh 130 lbs.

    OP my suggestion is doing decline weighted ab crunches, and perfect your diet. Expose your core to heavy resistance so that you struggle to complete 10 reps.
    Although, heavy training adds mass to the midsection....which may add to a bigger belly look if the fat isn't being torched off.
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    Originally Posted by CelesteD View Post
    Although, heavy training adds mass to the midsection....which may add to a bigger belly look if the fat isn't being torched off.
    I know, obviously I figured that out lol. That's why 'perfect your diet' is part of the recommendation. Thanks for your additional details on how to help OP lose fat though.
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