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    You guys realize we're one Overeem loss away from...

    having a weak HW division again?

    I mean, if he loses, what happens to Cain then? Rematch with JDS after demolishing him? Rematch with Bigfoot after demolishing him?
    At least if Overeem wins, he will keep the title fresh for another 6-8 months while JDS fights again and maybe someone interesting enters the picture like Cormier or Barnett.

    Overeem literally has the next 1-2 years of the UFC HW's future riding on his shoulders.

    But if he does lose, I do hope they give an immediate title shot to Cormier, even though he's friends with Cain, it would need to happen....unless of course if he refuses and wants to drop to LHW, in which case we're back to square one.
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    Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post
    But if he does lose, I do hope they give an immediate title shot to Cormier, even though he's friends with Cain, it would need to happen....unless of course if he refuses and wants to drop to LHW, in which case we're back to square one.
    I'm sure I remember an interview with Cormier in which he said that himself and Velasquez would put their friendship aside if a belt were on the line.

    Oh and The Reem is going to destroy Bigfoot.
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    Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post
    having a weak HW division again?

    I mean, if he loses, what happens to Cain then?
    The choice is obvious.
































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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    Duffee's back!
    I'm curious if he's improved enough over what he looked like against Overeem - cause he looked silly in that fight and was totally out classed. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt till I see him have a couple more fights.

    OP, the HW division has a lot of young talent.
    Outside of that, Werdum is still dangerous, Mir is too...he may not ever hold a title, but I'm willing to bet Frank will fight for it again. Cormier (obviously, mentioned), but also if Josh Barnett is brought over could be very dangerous. As much as it pains me to say it, Roy Nelson might put enough wins together to challenge...he won't win...but I can see him challenge for the title with the right road to the match.

    The HW division isn't Grand Canyon deep, but I don't know if I would call it "weak".
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    Originally Posted by cgc View Post
    I'm curious if he's improved enough over what he looked like against Overeem - cause he looked silly in that fight and was totally out classed. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt till I see him have a couple more fights.
    He was just star struck

    Originally Posted by cgc View Post
    OP, the HW division has a lot of young talent.
    Outside of that, Werdum is still dangerous, Mir is too...he may not ever hold a title, but I'm willing to bet Frank will fight for it again. Cormier (obviously, mentioned), but also if Josh Barnett is brought over could be very dangerous. As much as it pains me to say it, Roy Nelson might put enough wins together to challenge...he won't win...but I can see him challenge for the title with the right road to the match.
    Cain still has a questionable chin it's just a matter of who can stay on the feet and hit it. I don't see Mir/Werdum being much threat. More realistically is that him and JDS remain at the top and have a 5 fight back-and-forth if he wins the 3rd fight. The beginning of the fight before he gassed or got knocked silly, JDS had no problem throwing cain off him and stuffing his TD's.
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    He was just star struck
    Oh, he was struck by a start....over...and over...and over.

    Na, in all seriousness I like Duffee (he used to fight local shows around here) but if he cracks the top 5 HW I'll be surprised.
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    I remember cormier saying he'd never fight cain. Thats why he called out jones.
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    Originally Posted by cgc View Post
    I'm curious if he's improved
    He was at Grudge a couple of years back working with my kru for that 'Reem fight. Needless to say, it didn't go as planned.

    He's recently come back and is working with the GTC team again. I'll let you know how he's looking on Friday, assuming he's there working.
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    Cain still has a questionable chin
    Questionable chin is non-existent in the HW division unless you're Brendan Schaub.

    Cain got hit with a money shot in the temple that'll drop anyone. Do you not remember all the shots he took against Kongo?
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    Originally Posted by tudge View Post
    Questionable chin is non-existent in the HW division unless you're Brendan Schaub.

    Cain got hit with a money shot in the temple that'll drop anyone. Do you not remember all the shots he took against Kongo?
    yea.. and kongo dropped him. so did some other mediocre fighter
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    Originally Posted by LAWLER89 View Post
    He was at Grudge a couple of years back working with my kru for that 'Reem fight. Needless to say, it didn't go as planned.

    He's recently come back and is working with the GTC team again. I'll let you know how he's looking on Friday, assuming he's there working.
    Seriously, I'd be curious. I'd like to see the guy do well.
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    Daniel Cormier and possibly Josh Barnett,Werdum etc.

    So if the champ is way better than the rest the division is weak like lhw,lw,mw?
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    Originally Posted by John_Connor View Post
    Daniel Cormier and possibly Josh Barnett,Werdum etc.

    So if the champ is way better than the rest the division is weak like lhw,lw,mw?
    no, if only 3-4 guys are way better than the rest of the division, one is the champ, one of them just lost to the champ, the other probably won't fight the champ and the other is Overeem

    Mir, Werdum, Nog, Barnett, Bigfoot, Nelson don't deserve a title shot unless they each get like 2 more really impressive wins, and they can't be over scrubs, they have to be against each other and/or someone in their league or above

    and I guess the proper word I should have used is 'stagnant' HW division, instead of weak...but you get the point by now
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    Originally Posted by kanko View Post
    Wait till bader hari comes mma it will make a whole difference remember size doesnt matter in mma
    I don't understand this comment. Badr Hari is the same size as the rest of the guys in the heavy weight division. And the last time size didn't matter in mma was 15 years ago.
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    Originally Posted by kanko View Post
    Wait till bader hari comes mma it will make a whole difference remember size doesnt matter in mma
    Implying he'll just waltz right into the UFC HW championship picture. Because Spong is already competing for the belt, right?
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    The HW div. has always been on the thin side compared to other divisions, but it's far from weak today.

    Who here remembers when Tim Sylvia was the 2 time champ and we only had Monson left to challenge him? Monson was paid $13,000 for that title fight and there was nobody left to challenge for the title until Couture came out of retirement and put him on his arse, all the good HW's were in PRIDE at the time. Tim Frickin Sylvia, guys, he was the champ, that should tell you how weak the div used to be.
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    Originally Posted by Dragger View Post
    The HW div. has always been on the thin side compared to other divisions, but it's far from weak today.

    Who here remembers when Tim Sylvia was the 2 time champ and we only had Monson left to challenge him? Monson was paid $13,000 for that title fight and there was nobody left to challenge for the title until Couture came out of retirement and put him on his arse, all the good HW's were in PRIDE at the time. Tim Frickin Sylvia, guys, he was the champ, that should tell you how weak the div used to be.
    Back when Syliva KO'ing Tra Telligman made Rogan think he had a chance against Fedor.
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    Originally Posted by Dragger View Post
    The HW div. has always been on the thin side compared to other divisions, but it's far from weak today.

    Who here remembers when Tim Sylvia was the 2 time champ and we only had Monson left to challenge him? Monson was paid $13,000 for that title fight and there was nobody left to challenge for the title until Couture came out of retirement and put him on his arse, all the good HW's were in PRIDE at the time. Tim Frickin Sylvia, guys, he was the champ, that should tell you how weak the div used to be.
    I think Justin Eilers fighting for the belt was a lower point honestly, but you're right: that was a dark era for the HW division.
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    Jon jones could clear out most of the hw division right now with no bulk. Given 1-2 years he could be unbeatable at hw.
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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    Jon jones could clear out most of the hw division right now with no bulk. Given 1-2 years he could be unbeatable at hw.
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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    Jon jones could clear out most of the hw division right now with no bulk. Given 1-2 years he could be unbeatable at hw.
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