To those who say that these videos don't contain enough specific information, I see these as more PHILOSOPHICAL MUSINGS on bodybuilding, rather than HOW-TO videos.
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Just throwing this out here.. Anyone who watched Alberto's vid he talks about his dieting. He mentions at one point he dropped carbs to lower his calories, but felt like crap and didn't lose weight. To fix this, he put the carbs back in and dropped some fats and suddenly felt better and began to lose weight again.. This, IMO, gives some weight to the "bro" argument.. IIFYM is great, but not everyone needs the same macros. Not only due to goals, but due to how their body processes food. Insuligenic responses to food vary quite a bit, as does the hormonal effects generated from the insulin. If Alberto cut the same amount of calories out of his diet in both cases ,which I'd assume he did since he knows so much about macros and dieting.. Then the weight loss he WASN'T experiencing was due to the hormonal effects of the food. Sounds alot like the Dave Palumbo, give a girl a poptart and the weight loss stops type of thing to me..
Carbs will kickstart your metabolism and a lack of carbs will do the opposite while fats don't have the same trait.
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Just throwing this out here.. Anyone who watched Alberto's vid he talks about his dieting. He mentions at one point he dropped carbs to lower his calories, but felt like crap and didn't lose weight. To fix this, he put the carbs back in and dropped some fats and suddenly felt better and began to lose weight again.. This, IMO, gives some weight to the "bro" argument.. IIFYM is great, but not everyone needs the same macros. Not only due to goals, but due to how their body processes food. Insuligenic responses to food vary quite a bit, as does the hormonal effects generated from the insulin. If Alberto cut the same amount of calories out of his diet in both cases ,which I'd assume he did since he knows so much about macros and dieting.. Then the weight loss he WASN'T experiencing was due to the hormonal effects of the food. Sounds alot like the Dave Palumbo, give a girl a poptart and the weight loss stops type of thing to me..
Not trying to come off as a know it all, but this in my opinion and from what I've been reading has to do with Leptin resistance.
Anyone who's ever gone low carb and hit single digit bodyfat may have experienced this. After a while you become lethergic, weaker in the gym, fat loss stops, etc. Then you add a carb refeed (maybe only as little as 350grams of carbs needed for this, assuming you've been on a diet of >100g or even >30g), and suddenly you're back at it, you feel good again, and you're breaking through fat loss plateaus once again. Typically a refeed day has you eat at maintenance, but you can still eat below and receive the results of a refeed.
You do this maybe once a week/every two weeks, maybe 3 times a week on lifting days, depends, until you hit your target fat loss (and you only do this once you reach low levels of bodyfat).
Once bodyfat levels are low, leptin levels drop and leptin resistance increases. Leptin regulates to a degree, muscle efficiency as well as fat loss. Carbohydrates exert an effect on leptin resistance, so carb refeeds have their place in helping you lose fat. This is a really rough description and worth looking into if you're interested.
I just read some 200lbs dude in this thread write that you shouldn't take advice from a guy who eats burgers and fits them into his macros. I make my own burgers/pancakes/pizzas and I "fit them into my macros", doesn't seem to be doing me any harm, so I think I'm just gonna keep doing that, lol.
I don't think Ian's some amazing prophetical messiah in the world of nutrition, I simply take away the message, there's more than one way to achieve the same goal. If you ENJOY carrying around tuppaware and eating chicken and rice every two hours, whether bulking or cutting, go ahead. I don't, so I won't, I'm achieving the results I wanna achieve all the same fitting "bad" foods into my macros, so if it works, why would I switch to some anal retentive way of doing things, simply because some dude in a youtube video tells me it's the only thing that works?
That's just what I think anyway. If it came to contest dieting I personally wouldn't be eating pizza, or pancakes, or burgers. But I've hit single digits without being incredibly restrictive about those things while simply counting calories, and planning my macros. So I don't see the point in changing it simply to make myself more "hardcore". Been there, done that, miserable, dull, pointless, lol.
Once bodyfat levels are low, leptin levels drop and leptin resistance increases. Leptin regulates to a degree, muscle efficiency as well as fat loss. Carbohydrates exert an effect on leptin resistance, so carb refeeds have their place in helping you lose fat. This is a really rough description and worth looking into if you're interested.
Leptin resistance is the result of consistently elevated leptin, so it would be very unlikely to happen in the conditions that you have described.
Yeah I guess so, my ideas are based on articles such as this: marksdailyapple.com/dear-mark-should-i-increase-carb-intake-for-weight-loss/#axzz2KGhbpN1q
I guess my usage of the word resistance is wrong then. I know leptin resistance occurs in the morbidly obese, as they have a ton of leptin, and yet the brain isn't realising this. Either way I'm pretty sure carb refeeds are supposed to work because of the role of Leptin, even though I don't really fully understand it.
I'll never understand how anyone could like Ian. He could have nothing but good things to say and would still come off as a know it all prick.
That's pretty much the whole youtube fitness community and why I don't like it or watch it. One of the reasons I like someone like berto is he's intelligent but comes off as relatable and has lots of experience. That being said, that doesn't make Ian's info false, it means I disagree with the way he presents it. There has actually been research done in ergonomics/human factors that says that coming off as an expert actually makes people less receptive to your information, unless they are also experts. That doesn't mean come off as an idiot, it means being relatable and adjusting your presentation based on your audience is key to having a receptive audience.
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I'll never understand how anyone could like Ian. He could have nothing but good things to say and would still come off as a know it all prick.
I genuinely think only stupid people, or people insecure in their own intelligence think that Ian is arrogant or a know-it-all. He's always seemed to me to be practically the definition of humble - he keeps his personal opinions and what he thinks largely out of it and defers to evidence, science and reason.
Yet somehow Pulcinella telling people that only 6 foods work never gets called out on just how grossly arrogant and know all such a statement is. It's the height of hubris (not to mention stupidity).
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I genuinely think only stupid people, or people insecure in their own intelligence think that Ian is arrogant or a know-it-all. He's always seemed to me to be practically the definition of humble - he keeps his personal opinions and what he thinks largely out of it and defers to evidence, science and reason.
Yet somehow Pulcinella telling people that only 6 foods work never gets called out on just how grossly arrogant and know all such a statement is. It's the height of hubris (not to mention stupidity).
He constantly name calls and bashes people like a toddler? Regardless of his information, he comes off as a jerk 97% of the time and looks like ABSOLUTE ****.
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I genuinely think only stupid people, or people insecure in their own intelligence think that Ian is arrogant or a know-it-all. He's always seemed to me to be practically the definition of humble - he keeps his personal opinions and what he thinks largely out of it and defers to evidence, science and reason.
Yet somehow Pulcinella telling people that only 6 foods work never gets called out on just how grossly arrogant and know all such a statement is. It's the height of hubris (not to mention stupidity).
The term most appropriate is "Pedantic"
God I hope this thread never surfaces after the AC....
God I hope this thread never surfaces after the AC....
God I hope this thread gets locked now. People can have their silly dogmas. I'll enjoy eating foods I like in a meal frequency I choose and continue to get leaner and bigger. One day people may actually come around. Until then it isn't worth debating, because without open minds then you are just yelling back and forth.
Work harder, smarter, and longer - overtraining is simply a state of mind.
God I hope this thread gets locked now. People can have their silly dogmas. I'll enjoy eating foods I like in a meal frequency I choose and continue to get leaner and bigger. One day people may actually come around. Until then it isn't worth debating, because without open minds then you are just yelling back and forth.
This debates are usefull much like the religion ones. If someone wants change they need to be persistent. Among the yelling of the close minded there are open minded outsiders who will listen (or read), take what they find the best of both arguments and form their own opinion, even if there isn't a clear "winner" of the debate.
God I hope this thread gets locked now. People can have their silly dogmas. I'll enjoy eating foods I like in a meal frequency I choose and continue to get leaner and bigger. One day people may actually come around. Until then it isn't worth debating, because without open minds then you are just yelling back and forth.
locked or buried in the depths of this forum... i agree
Well, that about confirms it. You are, indeed, a socially inept moron.
BTW I'd just like to show you a post I made a while ago:
Originally Posted by detrimental
Ian McCarthy is a socially inept manlet with an inferiority complex that misconstrues itself as arrogance. He has zero social skills and the consistent state of being a shadow in real life (more than likely during highschool) and nobody caring about his opinion or, more generally, him has made him the way that he is.
Now he's find his niche online and uses his decent vocabulary and vocal articulation to come across as an intellectual (when he's clearly not) in a realm (lifting) that accepts almost anybody and everybody and has no real established set of rules.
NOW... It certainly doesn't help that he's been lifting for 7 years, acts like he knows everything, is a manlet, and yet still hasn't made any noteworthy gains.
I suggest you watch this video to get a real grasp of who you're dealing with, here:
Go to around 45 minutes and you'll see him start talking about how he "doesn't want to see young men abandon college/education for bodybuilding, blah blah...". Mike P then poses the question: "Why do you care so much about what they do with their lives?". And you see every single insecurity and personality problem that Ian has rush straight to the forefront of his brain. It exposes who he is and why he does what he does, to his very core.
Furthermore, throughout the video you can see that he doesn't actually know anything about the science behind what he talks about. He simply regurgitates paraphrased information that he has memorized. The difficulty in believing or caring about what this kid has to say is that he has zero credible foundation to stand on because he clearly has not adopted the principles he so thoroughly believes in, in any real world scenario that has displayed any true benefit to the contrary principles at play.
He's just a kid, with a bad childhood, who doesn't really know much but has decent verbal articulation and memory, with a fanbase of naive lifters on the internet who have even less practical experience in bodybuilding than he does.
apparently hes quitting his channel or at least "taking a break"
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