In order to determine whether or not you are at least some what strong does anybody know what some decent numbers would be for the following exercises:
Squat
Deadlift
Bench
Incline
Barbell Curl
Military
Row
for example if you squat 2x ur bodyweight is that considered good ? or how much should you be able to bench at 200 pounds to have some decent numbers...and for non-steroid users btw...if any one can help i would really appreciate the insight.
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07-27-2003, 05:08 PM #1
How much should you be able to lift based on weight ?
6'3, 245 waist 33, chest 48, arms 18,thighs 27,calves 16.5
also known as el cangri
incline 295x2
squat 315x32,455x4
deads 405x3
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07-27-2003, 05:27 PM #2
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That's a good question. I know if you can bench press double your bodyweight that is considered quite strong. I'm almost there Even 100lbs over your bodyweight on the bench I've been told is impressive. There must be some other sites that have that info. I would curious as well.
I found a site though that had some records for bench press by bodyweight, classs, age if it was a masters class, and what they lifted.
International Strength Association: Bench Press Records
Open Bench Press
123 Lennon Smith (GA) 270
132 Brandon Rodgers (GA) 205
148 Randall Wrye (GA) 6/16/01 325
165 Darrell Hamby (GA) 3/24/01 425
181 Jeffrey Hudson (AL) 9/30/01 455
198 Dewayne Nealy (IN) 7/14/01 540
220 Roddrick Harrell (AL) 12/7/02 480
242 David Fisher (GA) 3/11/00 485
275 Jim Hoskinson (FL) 9/30/01 530
308 James Jackson Jr. (GA) 525
SHW John Heard Jr. (GA) 550
Teen Bench Press
123 Isidro Sanchez (TX) 11/18/00 150
132 Jeremy Itson (GA) 195
148 Adam Rowell (GA) 12/8/01 225
165 Albert Jones (GA) 310
181 Gregory Vanison (GA) 3/11/01 340
198 Dustin Smith (GA) 12/9/00 370
220 Robert Hall (GA) 12/7/02 360
242 Greg Taylor (GA) 8/10/02 405
275 Shawn Ford (GA) 385
308 Shawn Ford (GA) 12/7/02 400
SHW Mike Mack (GA) 6/16/01 385
Junior Bench Press
123 Lennon Smith (GA) 270
132 Becky Riemer (GA) 135
148 Becky Riemer (GA) 105
165 Josh Wrye (GA) 315
181 Doug Riemer (GA) 6/16/01 225
198 Mark Phillips (GA) 7/14/01 410
220 Matt Halliday (FL) 9/30/01 435
242 Matt Warren (GA) 9/30/01 470
275 Joe Carter (GA) 430
308 Open 000
SHW Open 000
Submaster Bench Press
123 Open 000
132 Open 000
148 Thomas Brent (IN) 7/14/01 235
165 Bobby Barber (GA) 3/11/00 285
181 Jeffrey Hudson (AL) 9/30/01 455
198 Richard Bowers (GA) 405
220 Roddrick Harrell (AL) 12/7/02 460
242 David Fisher (GA) 3/11/00 485
275 Lamar Smith (GA) 505
308 Daryl Fox (AL) 12/9/00 475
SHW John Heard Jr. (GA) 550
Master's Bench Press
123 Open 000
132 Open 000
148 40-49 Randall Wrye (GA) 6/16/01 325
148 50-54 Danny Thompson (GA) 3/24/01 235
165 40-49 Darrell Hamby (GA) 3/24/01 425
165 50-59 Randall Wrye (GA) 12/7/02 360
181 40-49 Garry Glen (GA) 12/8/01 310
181 50-59 Joe Portman (KY) 7/14/01 305
198 40-49 Jeff Fidler (IN) 7/13/02 430
198 50-59 Leonard McCormick (AL) 6/16/01 340
198 60-69 Louie Schell (KY) 7/13/02 325
220 40-49 Mike Overby (GA) 12/7/02 410
220 50-59 Ted Butler (AL) 12/7/02 385
220 60-69 Charles Fennelle III (FL) 12/8/01 300
220 70-79 Mack Branham (SC) 12/8/01 260
242 40-49 Tom Blacketer (IN) 7/14/01 505
242 50-59 Crayton Taylor (GA) 3/11/00 405
275 40-49 Kevin Hutchinson (IN) 7/13/02 550
275 50-59 Tony Powell (TN) 3/11/00 320
308 40-49 David Randall (GA) 3/24/01 500"Franco is pretty smart, but Franco's a child, and when it comes to the day of the contest, I am his father. He comes to me for advices. So it's not that hard for me to give him the wrong advices." - Arnold Schwarzenegger - Pumping Iron
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07-27-2003, 05:56 PM #3
bloody hell that is strong when i was up at 210 i was benching 308 and everyone kept on goin how good that was and that was 1.5 times my bodyweight, very impressed overload...
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07-27-2003, 05:58 PM #4
El galan fuerte
from your stats you seem very strong... i guess strength is in comparison to someone the simular weight... but to me it seems good...
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07-27-2003, 06:23 PM #5
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Re: How much should you be able to lift based on weight ?
Originally posted by El galan fuerte
In order to determine whether or not you are at least some what strong does anybody know what some decent numbers would be for the following exercises:
Squat
Deadlift
Bench
Incline
Barbell Curl
Military
Row
for example if you squat 2x ur bodyweight is that considered good ? or how much should you be able to bench at 200 pounds to have some decent numbers...and for non-steroid users btw...if any one can help i would really appreciate the insight.
2x bw squat
2x bw dead
1.5x bw bench
1.3x bw incline
0.5x bw curl
1.5 bw bb row
You are strong !!!
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07-27-2003, 07:41 PM #6
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i weigh 140 and put up 240, i have some of those records beat, they still cant b to date. it just all depends on how much you weigh to determine how much u put up. what a-rod wrote looks about right, but it really doesnt matter. there will always b some1 bigger and stronger.
It doesnt matter how big, how cut, or how much you can lift, because there will always be someone bigger, more cut, or stronger than you. You should train to be the best you genetically can be. This is what should motivate you everyday.
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07-27-2003, 08:27 PM #7
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Re: Re: How much should you be able to lift based on weight ?
Originally posted by A-rod
I`d say if you can :
2x bw squat
2x bw dead
1.5x bw bench
1.3x bw incline
0.5x bw curl
1.5 bw bb row
You are strong !!!
Overall I guess I'm on the right track. One of my goals is to 2x BW in bench and squats. A few more weeks if all goes well. Of course if I do gain any weight than it's always just a litte out of reach. That kind of sucks. It's like dangling the carrot in front of the horse."Franco is pretty smart, but Franco's a child, and when it comes to the day of the contest, I am his father. He comes to me for advices. So it's not that hard for me to give him the wrong advices." - Arnold Schwarzenegger - Pumping Iron
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07-27-2003, 08:31 PM #8
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Originally posted by cwsocr
it really doesnt matter. there will always b some1 bigger and stronger."Franco is pretty smart, but Franco's a child, and when it comes to the day of the contest, I am his father. He comes to me for advices. So it's not that hard for me to give him the wrong advices." - Arnold Schwarzenegger - Pumping Iron
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12-07-2003, 07:35 PM #9
how about some real stats
http://www.biggerfasterstronger.com/...ngth__file.pdf
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12-07-2003, 08:15 PM #10
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I weigh 147, I deadlifted 315 friday, i can do 325 just cant get my shoulders up..traps need work...I bench 145, and i curl max 75 i think..so i have the dead lift cool, the rest needs work, the bench after my cycle of hmb i'm hoping for 160, but would be happy with 155, and 75 curl would be ok i guess, I wont be happy will ti'm curling 125..my goals for the next deadlift war..
Deadlift 370
Bench 170
Curl 125
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12-08-2003, 10:38 AM #11
Re: Re: How much should you be able to lift based on weight ?
Originally posted by A-rod
I`d say if you can :
2x bw squat
2x bw dead
1.5x bw bench
1.3x bw incline
0.5x bw curl
1.5 bw bb row
You are strong !!!
My weight: 145
Squat: 225
Dead: 250
Bench: 225
Incline: 205
Curl: 85
BB Row: 125
Military Press: 135
Chins: +75
Dips: +90
Some of these are estimates, but should be pretty close. My lower back is my weak link, which is why my squat, dead and BB rows are low compared to my bench. Not sure if 135 is good on military press. I suspect that's low as well. I might be able to do more sitting, but I always do military press standing so I don't know. My lats, bi's and tri's are pretty strong (which is why my chin and dip numbers are high), oh and it helps that I only weight 145 pounds.36 years old
150 lbs
7% bf
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12-08-2003, 10:41 AM #12
Re: Re: How much should you be able to lift based on weight ?
Originally posted by A-rod
I`d say if you can :
2x bw squat
2x bw dead
1.5x bw bench
1.3x bw incline
0.5x bw curl
1.5 bw bb row
You are strong !!!
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12-08-2003, 12:21 PM #13
my 2 cents.
I'm a puss and can't lift too much. Haven't maxed on bench but I would say about 175-190. Around that anyway.
I've been thinking about this alot lately.
What REALLY matters? Weight you can lift, how BIG YOU are, or how good you look?
For me it is how I look. I might not be able to lift much weight, but I think I look good and my woman thinks I look hot. That is what matters to me.
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12-08-2003, 12:29 PM #14Originally posted by damaticous
For me it is how I look. I might not be able to lift much weight, but I think I look good and my woman thinks I look hot. That is what matters to me.
But I think being strong is almost as important, and IMO it is a better goal than being huge. Strength is practical and useful, size isn't really (unless you make money as a body builder).
Besides, who looks better? A 200 pound dude with 15% bf or a 165 pound guy at 4% bf cut to shreads? I'd prefer to be the second guy personally.36 years old
150 lbs
7% bf
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12-08-2003, 02:29 PM #15
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leverage is key.5
ht-5'9
wt-178
reach:75"(extreme disadvantage in the weight room)
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bench press stats
225x3 reps
205x5 reps
185x10 reps
not impressive of course....but.....
dip station stats
no weight added-37 reps
50 lbs added-18 reps
75 lbs added-13 reps
100 lbs added-8 reps
tri's have the strength but the arm reach is too long to excel at the legendary mass builder,the flat bench press.
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12-08-2003, 04:46 PM #16
Eh, why not...
For the past three months, I've been training with a focus on strength, and it has really improved my lifts and chin-up performance. My numbers are much lower than the rest of yours, but I can't exactly produce mass quantities of testosterone like you men do, so give me a break, umkay?
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 155 pounds
Bench: 105
Squat (narrow stance, below parallel): 135
Deadlift: 175
Best chin-up ladder: 8 reps total
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12-09-2003, 03:52 AM #17Originally posted by damaticous
my 2 cents.
I'm a puss and can't lift too much. Haven't maxed on bench but I would say about 175-190. Around that anyway.
I've been thinking about this alot lately.
What REALLY matters? Weight you can lift, how BIG YOU are, or how good you look?
For me it is how I look. I might not be able to lift much weight, but I think I look good and my woman thinks I look hot. That is what matters to me.
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12-09-2003, 04:59 AM #18
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woah woah
Wait a sec I'm 127 and can put up at least between 210 and 225, do i seriously have those records beat?
Nathan
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12-09-2003, 05:19 AM #19
If you can lift that weight under scrutiny of three judges, then yes. Otherwise your numbers are irrelevant.
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12-09-2003, 06:11 AM #20
Re: woah woah
Originally posted by nathan101085
Wait a sec I'm 127 and can put up at least between 210 and 225, do i seriously have those records beat?
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12-09-2003, 06:38 AM #21
i like A-rod's strong guide, makes me feel like a powerhouse
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01-06-2012, 08:51 PM #22
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There is a website and a publication of what someone SHOULD lift for each lift... I once found it in a MuscleMag publication but I lost the issue... If anyone knows of it could you please post it?
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08-09-2013, 07:19 PM #23
Ridiculous
Y'all shouldn't even be on this site there is so much weak mofos on here nuff said
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08-09-2013, 07:29 PM #24
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12-09-2013, 03:00 PM #25
Does that apply to woman as well ?
Per bw ?
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12-10-2013, 12:37 PM #26
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Blast from the Past thread. Worth resurrecting imo. Glad i never unsubscribed to this thread. 10 years later. Okay,..My recent take on this subject..
Alot of it,as i allready stated 10 years ago,has to do with Limb length,as in leverage,whether you mean individual capacities in bench,deads,curls,or squats. When you see these stats of PL'ers stats for various lift results,a 181 lb'er for example benching well into the 400's,you know for certain,the guy is a shortand stout 181 lb guy,short arms. Probably 5-5,5-6,5-7,with an equally sized reach,or even more likely,a shorter reach than height. Deadlifters are comparitively alot more equalled out it seems,as i've seen guys with much more leaned out type builds deadlifting huge numbers. Squats ismore akin to the benchers. Short limbs are WAYYYY better for excelling at squats. There ARE exceptions,but that is generally the way it goes in most of the cases. In the 1980's Dr Fred Hatfield squatted 1014. He was 5-6,230 lbs. A 6-3,230 lb man could never ever come anywhere near that amount. In the 1990's,when i somewhat followed PL'ing,i heard of two huge benchers that really stood out from the rest. Chris Confessor and Anthony Clark. They were 5-4 and 5-7 and 238 lbs and 350 lbs,both very compacted bowling ball type builds with very short arms,meaning hardly any range of motion. Basically provided phenomenal leverage advantage. Confessor did 740 lbs to break Clark's previous record of 735 and then Clark in return eventually did 800 lbs to reclaim the record.
These are completely unreachable numbers for guys that ive seen in PL contests. Lifters that have that Naturally tall and wirey athletic build.
I remember at one particular contest i was at back in 1994. There was this really tall guy at the end,he was in the 275 class. He was around 6-5 so he was built like a thin lineman in football,nothing like Clark or Confessor. He did a 515 bench and this was extremely impressive mostly due in part to his much more wirey type build. I found that more impressive and definately more inspiring than those really short,bowling ball build,stubby limbed guys that barely have any range of moton required to attain they're outlandishly huge bench numbers.
As far as squatting. The most impressive displays i've ever seen were Kirk Karwowski doing a Full Rom squat with 1003 lbs. He had a relatively similiar build to the 6-5 275 lb guy at that 1994 PL meet. And as far as repping out a heavy weight,watch Tom Platz doing 23 Full Rom squats with 500 lbs. He was 195 lbs at 5-7. Thats as impressive as it gets. His upper body was very modest. His arms only looked around 16". He had the upper body of a guy thats 5-7 155-160 lbs. All of the extra weight was in his fanatically trained wheels. But,had he been "Naturally built" alot more stumpy'ish,he could've done 40 reps with that weight. Platz was a mere small meso that transformed his legs into oak trees but they were still too long to do what he could've done in squats had he been a natural endo like Anthony Clark and co.*Addicted to swimming during the summer crew.*
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01-01-2015, 11:16 AM #27
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I know this is an old thread, but I'm trying to set some goals. The percentage of BW goals, should they be your current body weight or should they be your cut bodyweight? For example... I'm 227, but I *should* be around 170-180. So, should my squat be 450 or should it be 360? That's a pretty big difference ;-)
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05-28-2015, 06:40 PM #28
Is it a good weight if I'm 360-365 can squat 500 deadlift 405 and bench 245
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11-14-2018, 10:00 AM #29
Old thread but.. These 735 and 800 benches are equipped, right? Seeing as though no human ever has benched 800 raw. Krill saychev holds the WR at 335kg.
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