Close grip deadlifts- Crazy lat workout?

[JBenuzzi]

Try deadlifting with your hands together. Feel that strain on your lats? I'm thinkin...crazy lat workout..just focus on gliding the weight along your leg and you can feel it strain your lats as the weight tries to pull away from your body.

Make sure to focus mainly on the bottom portion of the lift, do not pull too far past the bent over row position, as that is when the weight shifts off of the lats as it is no longer needed to keep the weight from getting away from you as from that point on gravity is no longer pulling it away from you.

I hope that makes sense, because that is when your back is involved the most when you deadlift.

Give it a shot and let me know how you like it

[mandimeoutof10]

Haven't tried this before but I'm game to try something new. Close grip (non supinated) rows hit my lats hard so this sounds like an interesting idea.

[ironwill2008]

Try deadlifting with your hands together. Feel that strain on your lats? I'm thinkin...crazy lat workout..just focus on gliding the weight along your leg and you can feel it strain your lats as the weight tries to pull away from your body.

Give it a shot and let me know how you like it

I'll just stick to actual Lat exercises.

[adamdavidson47]

I'll just stick to actual Lat exercises.

Ditto. Why do people continuously have to fudge with things?

[Retoaded]

strain on your lats probably comes from having to balance the bar swaying up and down on each side since you are basically creating a pivot point with your hands. sounds safe.

[Concat]

Yeah, that's not a movement which actually employs the lats to lift the weight. As Retoaded said, you're just using them to stabilize the weight.

There's a reason "close grip deadlift" isn't something you hear of... like ever.

[JBenuzzi]

I'll just stick to actual Lat exercises.

This is an actual Lat exercise. Define your meaning of an 'actual exercise'..
Or are you so one dimensional that you think everything has to be done one way?

You must be a newbie, I understand.

When you deadlift, the lats are hit very hard to keep the weight near your body. When you use an even closer grip, it seems to enhance the effect even more so, I believe it may have something to do with what Retoaded said, you have to balance the bar even harder, so it's obviously going to hit the stabilizing muscles very hard.

It just so happens that the latsimus dorsi is a stabilizing muscle in the deadlift. So there you go. It is most definitely an 'actual exercise'.

[JBenuzzi]

Yeah, that's not a movement which actually employs the lats to lift the weight. As Retoaded said, you're just using them to stabilize the weight.

There's a reason "close grip deadlift" isn't something you hear of... like ever.

There are 3 different variations of training the muscles my friend. There is positive, negative, and isometric. This would be an Isometric exercise to hit the lats even harder, and in a new way than you've ever tried obviously, so therefore would illicit many new gains if done correctly.

Another example of how well isometric exercise works is to take a look at how well the obliques are worked when you lift heavy. Many people don't want a thick waist because they want to look like Brad Pitt from fight club, so they skip deadlifts and squats . Thick waist = well developed external obliques.

Which everyone knows comes from lifting heavy.

[JBenuzzi]

Ditto. Why do people continuously have to fudge with things?

Because we as human beings have already deciphered all the secrets of the universe. *sarcasm*

No, nobodies got everything figured out. Try thinking outside the box.

[ironwill2008]

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bevans, is that you?

[Concat]

An isometric exercise for a stabilizer muscle? And this means crazy lat workout to you?

I mean, do what you like man, but if I want an iso lat exercise I'll just hang from a pull up bar.

And fyi, it's concentric and eccentric, not positive and negative.

[JBenuzzi]

An isometric exercise for a stabilizer muscle? And this means crazy lat workout to you?

I mean, do what you like man, but if I want an iso lat exercise I'll just hang from a pull up bar.

That's not an isolated lat exercise...That's called a deadhang and it works your grip muscles.

[Concat]

Isometric, you mean. And I didn't mean a deadhang. I meant holding this position:

[TBU720]

Actually if you want your lats to do more stabilization, you should do snatch pull deadlifts (or wide grip deadlifts)

Narrow grip deadlifts will be putting more stress on the shoulder abductors mostly. In this group of muscles is the supraspinatus (which is a back muscle) so I can understand why you might confuse this with the lats.

Usually any time someone does an upper back workout they think "omg my lats!". However it is usually not a lat exercise. Evidence: most people on this board seem to think a dumbbell row is a lat exercise.

[JBenuzzi]

Actually if you want your lats to do more stabilization, you should do snatch pull deadlifts (or wide grip deadlifts)

Narrow grip deadlifts will be putting more stress on the shoulder abductors mostly. In this group of muscles is the supraspinatus (which is a back muscle) so I can understand why you might confuse this with the lats.

Usually any time someone does an upper back workout they think "omg my lats!". However it is usually not a lat exercise. Evidence: most people on this board seem to think a dumbbell row is a lat exercise.

Thanks for clearing that up. But I guarantee you if you try it this way, while keeping it pinned against your body-which is key, you WILL feel your lats engaged.

Well, if you pull to your waist dumbbell rows certainly are a lat exercise. But I see how a lot of people could get confused pulling to their chest as a primary lat exercise.

[ThickAsABrick]

most people on this board seem to think a dumbbell row is a lat exercise.

lol

[NZninja101]

You must be a newbie, I understand.

[JBenuzzi]

lolol

[ironwill2008]

I am deeply wounded by the blow delivered to me from your massive neg hammer, OP.




Why are all you skinny kids always so angry? Eat a sammich and lift something heavy once in a while, and maybe you can add a couple of pounds of muscle.


lighten up, francis.

[JBenuzzi]

I am deeply wounded by the blow delivered to me from your massive neg hammer, OP.




Why are all you skinny kids always so angry? Eat a sammich and lift something heavy once in a while, and maybe you can add a couple of pounds of muscle.


lighten up, francis.

I believe the angry one is you, because you are old and you never got as big as you wanted to be when you were younger. It helps to empower yourself by trying to belittle and bully your younger counterparts on an online forum, that's fairly clear.

Clearly the neg affected you, because you had your friend neg me back. But here's the thing - you deserved it. Your a rude person. I don't regret it at all. lol

At least I have the opportunity to become greater than you ever will be. I hope my gains make you sick.

[magic15]

ironwill you newbie haha

[Concat]

I believe the angry one is you, because you are old and you never got as big as you wanted to be when you were younger. It helps to empower yourself by trying to belittle and bully your younger counterparts on an online forum, that's fairly clear.

Clearly the neg affected you, because you had your friend neg me back. But here's the thing - you deserved it. Your a rude person. I don't regret it at all. lol

At least I have the opportunity to become greater than you ever will be. I hope my gains make you sick.

[ThickAsABrick]

while there are plenty of contenders, the dumbest thing in this thread is still the DB row comment

[ironwill2008]

I believe the angry one is you, because you are old and you never got as big as you wanted to be when you were younger. It helps to empower yourself by trying to belittle and bully your younger counterparts on an online forum, that's fairly clear.

Clearly the neg affected you, because you had your friend neg me back. But here's the thing - you deserved it. Your a rude person. I don't regret it at all. lol

At least I have the opportunity to become greater than you ever will be. I hope my gains make you sick.

Whatever, brah.

You win the interwebz.

[TBU720]

Well, if you pull to your waist dumbbell rows certainly are a lat exercise.

Name the joint articulation that the latissimus dorsi produces that a bent over dumbbell row exercises

If anything, pulling to your waist will almost help to REDUCE lat involvement.

[ThickAsABrick]

Name the joint articulation that the latissimus dorsi produces that a bent over dumbbell row exercises

If anything, pulling to your waist will almost help to REDUCE lat involvement.

Have you ever worked out before?

[ironwill2008]

lol

[JBenuzzi]

Have you ever worked out before?

hahahahahahaha

[chazzy1864]

I don't even.......

[Retoaded]

Name the joint articulation that the latissimus dorsi produces that a bent over dumbbell row exercises

If anything, pulling to your waist will almost help to REDUCE lat involvement.

does that help? unless you dumbbell row with no arm movement.