UPDATE: Comments/Critique Titan Super Cent break-in.. Session 2

[nsurdis]

Ok.. last night I worked on implementing the advice I was given on this board..

a. Wrap the Knees
b. Work Rep Sets
c. Increase my speed on the way down
d. Worked straps down

To anyone who hasn't been following this, I'm not looking to start a thread debating on my squat height. We are all aware I'm not at parallel yet. These threads are about my working in my new squat suit trying to get down to parallel.

Results:
Started the night, warmed up to 405 for proper depth raw without a problem.
Went 455 for a single rep just to start things off (in video) .. It was maybe a little better than last week's but not much progress.

Over the next 2 hours (yes.. it lasted two hours.. it was a ton of trial and error).. we experimented with different body positions and speeds and such... until we finally hit on what was happening. And when I tell you, it will seem ridiculously simple.

I was wearing my belt too low. By wearing my belt low, it was binding up my hips, and keeping me from sitting back properly. This in turn acted like a lever, and when I tried to go lower, all I would do is drop my chest, and my butt would come up.. think of a "see-saw" on a playground. Thats what was happening.

So we raised the belt up an inch or two so I could get my hips in better position, and things went MUCH better. Unfortunately we didn't figure this out until about an hour and a half in the squat session and by that time I was exhausted.

The second video shows my last squat set.. 455 for a set of 4. (I was doing 5's all night, but I was cooked at this point).. if you watch my rep #3.. I think it was the best of the night and huge progress over last week.

If you are wondering why I put a bench under my squat for the 2nd video, I put it there to help gauge depth. When I sit on that bench, I am parallel.

I feel confident with everyones help and any additional comments/critique, I can get proper depth next week when I am fresh..

Video below: (if anyone can help with embed, please feel free! Thanks)

http://youtu.be/997Al4i9VIA

[getout87]

It looks pretty good. You appear to be sitting back into the suit just like you should. Knees aren't caving that I can see. It just seems like you are scared of the pressure at this point.

[_Smitty_]

It just seems like you are scared of the pressure at this point.

That's what I thought, too... Work heavy progressive triples and doubles and allow that sweet, sweet pressure to fill your head.

[scorpionsf]

i'm slightly curious why you are using such a light weight

[Torrtrefireto]

i'm slightly curious why you are using such a light weight

Yeah still going light. Everything is improved but bro nobody your size is going to make 455 look good in a decent suit

I sure as hell can't with 545, let alone 455

[isaku900]

i'm slightly curious why you are using such a light weight

this. you're wasting your time OP.

[nsurdis]

Yeah still going light. Everything is improved but bro nobody your size is going to make 455 look good in a decent suit

I sure as hell can't with 545, let alone 455

lol. I hear you. truthfully the reason why is because I can throw around 455 and even good morning it. It was for two reasons :

a. i was in "uncharted" territory with a suit, and I wanted to be able to not worry about getting out of form and being able to muscle it back easily.
b. it allowed me to do 2 hours of work of 4-5 rep sets and find my groove without becoming exhausted.

next week's update (monday) we will do some real weight for doubles. so stay tuned. i think i've got the groove figured out.. the belt things really helped.

[nsurdis]

so rolling on this topic.. does anyone else wear their belt a bit higher? or have any difficulty with getting the right angles if they wear it lower? Or am I just some kind of 6' hobbit?

[baxtej44]

the bottom of my belt hits just above my belly button, and it hits my legs right at depth pretty much.

[evilscout6]

the bottom of my belt hits just above my belly button, and it hits my legs right at depth pretty much.

Same here...Any lower and it feels like its going to break my hip bones

[baxtej44]

Same here...Any lower and it feels like its going to break my hip bones

yep, and i get nasty bruises. idk, just feels right to me because i push out a lot harder with my upper/mid abs more than my lower.

[isaku900]

i put my belt as low as possible because otherwise I can't feel it through my briefs and canvas.

[takeittakeit]

the bottom of my belt hits just above my belly button, and it hits my legs right at depth pretty much.

That's where the top of my belt is.

And I'm pretty sure I'm fatter than most of you. And squat more than a lot of you. You guys must have some serious forward lean going on.

[baxtej44]

That's where the top of my belt is.

And I'm pretty sure I'm fatter than most of you. And squat more than a lot of you. You guys must have some serious forward lean going on.

maybe i should play with it then

[nsurdis]

Well forward lean is going to vary based upon the lifters femur length and his ability to squat wide.. The wider you can open your knees and the shorter your femur, the more upright you can remain.. (The bar must stay over your heels) Also if u let your knees drift forward you can stay more upright.. Everyone's physics are different.. Believe me I know that.. I've been screwing with this for 4 weeks!!!!

[baxtej44]

i'm still working on hip mobility to be able to squat wide... my heels are about 20" apart and it's pretty comfortable for me.

[nsurdis]

i'm still working on hip mobility to be able to squat wide... my heels are about 20" apart and it's pretty comfortable for me.

Just from experience, at 20" you definitely need your belt higher and more lean.. I'm around 43" wide and was binding up...

[evilscout6]

Well forward lean is going to vary based upon the lifters femur length and his ability to squat wide.. The wider you can open your knees and the shorter your femur, the more upright you can remain.. (The bar must stay over your heels) Also if u let your knees drift forward you can stay more upright.. Everyone's physics are different.. Believe me I know that.. I've been screwing with this for 4 weeks!!!!

Exactly...Torso length and belly roundness also play a roll on were is that belt gonna sit comfortable...But again,If that belt feels comfortable...It's wrong! LOL

[isaku900]

...i can't think of anything less important to think about than how wide your heels are apart in relation to where you have your belt.

just ****ing squat.

[SPFjudge]

Look dude, do more work sets in them straps down. When I say go fast I legit mean go fast. You aren't going fast. You can go fast in single ply. I can make light weights look very good. The weight doesn't make what the set looks like


I'm the 3rd guy on this video. I did 2 sets with 515 with tight bottoms. and 1 set filmed with looser bottoms. Try to look like me when you squat.


Edit: I wear my belt so that the middle of the belt is at my belly button.

[Retardo-pex]

so rolling on this topic.. does anyone else wear their belt a bit higher? or have any difficulty with getting the right angles if they wear it lower? Or am I just some kind of 6' hobbit?

Never actually noticed it until you pointed it out but looking at pictures of raw and strongman work I wear my belt pretty low, but all the pictures of me in single ply have it hiked up pretty high.

[Torrtrefireto]

Look dude, do more work sets in them straps down. When I say go fast I legit mean go fast. You aren't going fast. You can go fast in single ply. I can make light weights look very good. The weight doesn't make what the set looks like


I'm the 3rd guy on this video. I did 2 sets with 515 with tight bottoms. and 1 set filmed with looser bottoms. Try to look like me when you squat.


Edit: I wear my belt so that the middle of the belt is at my belly button.

hubris at its finest!

[SPFjudge]

hubris at its finest!

Had to google hubris. lol

Yeah its very hubristic but its hard to say go faster without having a video of someone actually going fast to compare to.

[Torrtrefireto]

Had to google hubris. lol

Yeah its very hubristic but its hard to say go faster without having a video of someone actually going fast to compare to.

I only knew it from Taco's song on the league "Vaginal Hubris"