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    How much of your protein come from supplement sources?

    Currently, I'm having trouble balancing studies with meeting macro targets. There isn't enough time for me to prepare proper food.

    I've just ordered 15kg of whey, and have decided to consume ~200g of it per day along with oats, fruits and green vegetable for carb sources. Fat would be from PB, fish oil, and the occasional tin of fish.

    I'm supplementing with a multi. Is this ok or am I missing out on vital micronutrients by not regularly consuming poultry, red meat or eggs?

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    I don't use any supplements because my diet isn't deficient.

    If your diet is deficient and you can't fix it for some reason, then you should supplement with the lowest dose needed to cure such deficiencies.

    I'm not sure why you're trying to consume so much protein, but doing so it not going to do any harm.
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    I'm not sure about all of your protein coming from whey. I'm a proponent of eating a wide variety of food, then supplementing the rest with whey which is usually around 50% of my daily protein. Generally, if your 1g/lb protein requirement is met and the rest of your carb/fat calories fit for your specific needs (i.e. cutting, maintaining or bulking) then you'll be all set. I've found that myFitness pal really helps me make sure that I'm eating what I need to on a daily basis.
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    Originally Posted by btmosher View Post
    I'm a proponent of eating a wide variety of food, then supplementing the rest with whey which is usually around 50% of my daily protein.
    I'm not a proponent of getting ~50% of a macronutrient from processed fast food, even if it's marketed as a supplement.

    Originally Posted by btmosher View Post
    Generally, if your 1g/lb protein requirement is met and the rest of your carb/fat calories fit for your specific needs (i.e. cutting, maintaining or bulking) then you'll be all set.
    At most, the OP would meet sufficiency with 1 gram per pound of lean body mass, not total bodyweight.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    I don't use any supplements because my diet isn't deficient.

    If your diet is deficient and you can't fix it for some reason, then you should supplement with the lowest dose needed to cure such deficiencies.

    I'm not sure why you're trying to consume so much protein, but doing so it not going to do any harm.
    Hi,

    I'm dieting so thought i'd shoot between 1.25 - 1.5g/lbm?

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    Originally Posted by wutang9o View Post
    I'm dieting so thought i'd shoot between 1.25 - 1.5g/lbm?
    You'd be more than fine with 0.82 grams per pound of bodyweight, so figure ~160 grams. You could probably get away with (significantly) less as I presume from your weight loss goals that your lean body mass is probably in the 150 to 160 pound range and thus you're not carrying a particularly large amount of skeletal muscle mass.

    Now consuming more will not hurt, but nor will it confer special benefits and thus it's a matter of personal preference.
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    about 24g's per day (post workout) these days, rest comes from diet (150g-200g in total)
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    There's nothing wrong with it, however it's not really sustainable in the long term. I'm a student and I don't have much to spend on food in general, so I end up taking about 2-3 servings of whey a day, equaling about 80g of protein. I aim for 180g a day.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    You'd be more than fine with 0.82 grams per pound of bodyweight, so figure ~160 grams. You could probably get away with (significantly) less as I presume from your weight loss goals that your lean body mass is probably in the 150 to 160 pound range and thus you're not carrying a particularly large amount of skeletal muscle mass.

    Now consuming more will not hurt, but nor will it confer special benefits and thus it's a matter of personal preference.
    Not that I'm doubting your knowledge but do you have a source?

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    Originally Posted by wutang9o View Post
    Not that I'm doubting your knowledge but do you have a source?

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    I disagree with only "needing" .82g/lbs of bodyweight simply because I have seen first hand that the more solid protein I take in every day significantly alters my gains.

    I try to ensure that at least 75% of my protein is from an animal source meat, and 25% or less comes from a shake such as Protean from iForce. My favorite flavors are the Vanilla Mint Swirl and Red Velvet Cake. Definitely make getting my total protein intake for the day up higher much easier than chicken breast alone haha.
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    I get all my protein from food... no supplements at all.
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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    I disagree with only "needing" .82g/lbs of bodyweight simply because I have seen first hand that the more solid protein I take in every day significantly alters my gains.

    I try to ensure that at least 75% of my protein is from an animal source meat, and 25% or less comes from a shake such as Protean from iForce. My favorite flavors are the Vanilla Mint Swirl and Red Velvet Cake. Definitely make getting my total protein intake for the day up higher much easier than chicken breast alone haha.
    in that case your body synthesizes more protein than 99% of people....or at least more than all people tested on this subject

    also, if you're on juice of course you can synthesize a lot more protein and you should shoot for more than 1g/lb imo
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    I am victim of a lot of powders for my daily pro but I am running higher protein now (250-300g). I enjoy choc when in my oats, CC and yogurt so theres about 65g right there plus I get another 2xg in a shake I take at night with my fiber supplement. So yeah like 90g or so. I am trying to transition over to more meats but I am lazy and like I can throw containers of cottage cheese greek yogurt and oats in my bag and stock it at work.
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    200 grams of protein from whey? Phew... that's a lot of whey. That said I know there are pros that primarily get their protein from whey. They are also consuming 8000 calories a day though on a bulk.

    I get about 50 grams a day from whey and the additional 120 from food (meat, milk, nuts etc.) and I don't find it a challenge.
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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    I disagree with only "needing" .82g/lbs of bodyweight simply because I have seen first hand that the more solid protein I take in every day significantly alters my gains.
    This is a phenomena often reported by supplement representatives pitching protein supplements, but it has not been reproducible experimentally.
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    I was having 1 scoop (about 20-25g) of whey per day until recently. Trying to figure out if i'm a little intolerant to dairy right now.

    Why are oats the only starch you're allowing yourself?
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    No no, 200g of whey

    8000 calories a day is mental.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I was having 1 scoop (about 20-25g) of whey per day until recently. Trying to figure out if i'm a little intolerant to dairy right now.

    Why are oats the only starch you're allowing yourself?
    Starchy vegetables, noodles and pasta take too long to cook. Also, I don't find bread particularly filling.

    Plus oats bulk up my shakes =)
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    2 scoops of whey ~ 35g protein

    once I finish with this box though I'm not buying anymore. you don't need supplements just eat food
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    Originally Posted by wutang9o View Post
    ... or am I missing out on vital micronutrients by not regularly consuming poultry, red meat or eggs?
    Yes, you're missing out on vital micronutrients. How could you possibly not be?


    There's a lot more to good bodybuilding nutrition than just protein powder and a vitamin pill.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Yes, you're missing out on vital micronutrients. How could you possibly not be?
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    Which micronutrients?

    I thought by eating the tinned fish, that might have negated any real mineral deficiencies from abstaining from land meat.

    I guess I'd be missing cholesterol/sat fat by not eating eggs/red meat, but I was considering drizzling butter/olive oil over my vegees.

    There's a lot more to good bodybuilding nutrition than just protein powder and a vitamin pill.
    Don't get me wrong, it's not ideal, but whey powder does contain some goodies, and is just so much more practical and convenient in my current situation.
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    IIRC there was a guy who did a cut using whey as his sole source of protein and it turned out pretty well for him. As others have said you will be missing out on quite a bit nutritionally but if you absolutely have to do it for a short period of time your muscles wont fall off
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    Originally Posted by wutang9o View Post
    Starchy vegetables, noodles and pasta take too long to cook. Also, I don't find bread particularly filling.

    Plus oats bulk up my shakes =)

    potatoes take 3-5min in the microwave

    pasta takes 10min to boil
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    Originally Posted by wutang9o View Post
    Currently, I'm having trouble balancing studies with meeting macro targets. There isn't enough time for me to prepare proper food.

    I've just ordered 15kg of whey, and have decided to consume ~200g of it per day along with oats, fruits and green vegetable for carb sources. Fat would be from PB, fish oil, and the occasional tin of fish.

    I'm supplementing with a multi. Is this ok or am I missing out on vital micronutrients by not regularly consuming poultry, red meat or eggs?

    Thanks! This is only a temporary fix.
    To answer your question in the thread title...depending on the day, I'll take in anywhere from 0 to 40 grams of additional protein/day from sources other then whole food. Ultimately, I shoot for zero protein from supplements, but life sometimes gets in the way of adequate preparation.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    potatoes take 3-5min in the microwave

    pasta takes 10min to boil
    Dude, I love potatoes and pasta, but that will will mean i have to carry even more tupperware to campus. Plus you have to peel and poke through all the potatoes etc..

    The only reason I'm doing this because it looks like I'll be at university from 9 till 5, then camped out in the library till midnight (or even later). Shopping for pre-prepared food is too expensive too.
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    Ill always try and get all my calories from whole foods. I do like the taste of shakes on occasion. They come in handy if im too busy or im away where i cant stop somewhere. Are they needed? Not at all. As long as your providing sufficiency through diet, save your money.
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