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    Any idea why it takes my computer so long to start (45 seconds with SSD)

    I have a crucial m4 128Gb where my OS is installed along with various programs. It takes about 45 seconds from the time I push my power button to get to desktop. Once the bios is cleared it takes about 15 seconds to go to desktop. I also have a c300 64gb SSD I use for steam games a 2TB HDD for storage, but I dont think those make too much of a difference. I have a lot of peripherals too if that makes a difference.
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    its all that pron slowing it down
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    what are your ssd's reading speeds?

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    That's really weird man, my M4 128GB takes about 20 seconds...

    I would try posting on the Tom's Hardware forum, a lot of smart nerds there, perhaps the SSD subforum? http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum-32-361.html
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    Originally Posted by spitty13 View Post
    Once the bios is cleared it takes about 15 seconds to go to desktop.
    running last bios version? so it takes 30 seconds to just pass the BIOS screen then 15 to get into windows? right? IMO I would first look at seeing what your boot process is in your BIOS as well as checking majority of settings enabled, 15 second to get from bios POST to Windows isnt slow it just seems your bios is slow at posting, try googling your motherboard / bios for similar problems...
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    Check your boot process, see what startup programs are on startup, make sure your hard drives aren't corrupt my going into disk management, defrag your hard drive and do a disk cleanup.
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    Originally Posted by everblue View Post
    what are your ssd's reading speeds?

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    Also, what motherboard do you use?

    My motherboard is an ASUS P8P67 pro and the BIOS is a bit out of date. I have version 2303 which is from March 2012, but I don't want to update because people have reported problems. I'll get my results for you in a second from crystal disk
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    Originally Posted by wouldreadagain View Post
    running last bios version? so it takes 30 seconds to just pass the BIOS screen then 15 to get into windows? right? IMO I would first look at seeing what your boot process is in your BIOS as well as checking majority of settings enabled, 15 second to get from bios POST to Windows isnt slow it just seems your bios is slow at posting, try googling your motherboard / bios for similar problems...
    BIOS is version 2303 which is from March. You are correct in that it takes 30 seconds to get past BIOS. I have noticed that on the motherboard there is an LED next to where it says boot device, so I am wondering if it is MOBO related. I have it set up in AHCI mode so that should be optimized in that regard.
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    Originally Posted by spitty13 View Post
    My motherboard is an ASUS P8P67 pro and the BIOS is a bit out of date. I have version 2303 which is from March 2012, but I don't want to update because people have reported problems. I'll get my results for you in a second from crystal disk
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    BIOS is version 2303 which is from March. You are correct in that it takes 30 seconds to get past BIOS. I have noticed that on the motherboard there is an LED next to where it says boot device, so I am wondering if it is MOBO related. I have it set up in AHCI mode so that should be optimized in that regard.
    Did you set it up in AHCI mode before or after you installed windows?

    Also is your ssd plugged into the white sata port?
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    Originally Posted by spitty13 View Post
    BIOS is version 2303 which is from March. You are correct in that it takes 30 seconds to get past BIOS. I have noticed that on the motherboard there is an LED next to where it says boot device, so I am wondering if it is MOBO related. I have it set up in AHCI mode so that should be optimized in that regard.
    Well, its motherboard / bios related. And yeah, playing with BIOS can get messy... your best bet would just be to just google symptoms and find something related to your settings.
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    Originally Posted by everblue View Post
    Did you set it up in AHCI mode before or after you installed windows?
    I honestly can't remember since this rig is almost two years old. I want to say I am 80% sure AHCI mode was enabled when I installed it. When I first built the computer is took about 20-25 seconds from power button to desktop, but I have changed lots since that time and added lots of peripherals. Its been a gradual increase in boot times ever since to where I am at now.

    Not sure if this would make a difference, but its a 2500K that is stable at 5.0 Ghz. It took a lot of tweaking in the bios to get it to 5.0 stable so not sure if that did anything. It should not have though since all of the tweaking was CPU related only.
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    Check your boot process, see what startup programs are on startup, make sure your hard drives aren't corrupt my going into disk management, defrag your hard drive and do a disk cleanup.
    The startup is fairly quick and there isn't really anything that is on startup which I don't need. The HDD is fairly new so it probably doesn't need to be defragged and SSDs dont need to be defragged to my knowledge.
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    I would just try defraging and disk cleanup. You'd be suprised how quick crap can get piled up. I barely delete/download crap since my PC is strictly for gaming and I still do it once a week
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    I would just try defraging and disk cleanup. You'd be suprised how quick crap can get piled up. I barely delete/download crap since my PC is strictly for gaming and I still do it once a week
    please don't defrag an ssd..
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    Originally Posted by everblue View Post
    Did you set it up in AHCI mode before or after you installed windows?

    Also is your ssd plugged into the white sata port?
    It is actually plugged into the blue, but it is still a 6g sata connection.
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    A lot of BIOS boot time can be taken up by the storage controller disk detection. If you're not using RAID or whatever else this offers you can disable it. Also check that your hard drive is the first boot device, things like network boot can slow you down.
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    It is actually plugged into the blue, but it is still a 6g sata connection.
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    You said you have a lot of peripherals, try unplugging everything but the basics, mouse, keyboard, monitor see if that improves it. If not then you know it's more core related, probably memory/hard drive checking. take pics of your bios startup settings a lot of checks can be bypassed etc to speed that time up.
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    Originally Posted by everblue View Post
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    I knew there was a chipset difference between the two but didn't think it was that much of a difference. Only took a few seconds off the boot time though.
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    Originally Posted by spitty13 View Post

    Not sure if this would make a difference, but its a 2500K that is stable at 5.0 Ghz. It took a lot of tweaking in the bios to get it to 5.0 stable so not sure if that did anything. It should not have though since all of the tweaking was CPU related only.
    Water cooled, or air cooled? Not boot time related, but I have a 2500k that I'm looking to juice a bit rather than buying a new rig. Share your specs, please.
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    Originally Posted by Dreamscapes View Post
    Water cooled, or air cooled? Not boot time related, but I have a 2500k that I'm looking to juice a bit rather than buying a new rig. Share your specs, please.
    Its a custom built water cooling rig. 1 RS240 and 1 RX240. 5.0 GHz at 1.424 volts prime 95 24 hour stable. Max temps are 70C in P95 and intel burn test can get it up to 75C. Normal everyday programs maxed CPU is 65C. This is with 4 Gentle typhons ap-15s at 900-1100 Rpm. Could crank them up more but it is designed to be a relatively quiet rig.

    Can actually get it to 5.1 Ghz, but the voltage is way too much for comfort since I'm already pushing it as is.

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    Originally Posted by spitty13 View Post
    Well fuk me sideways I just doubled my Crystal mark.



    I knew there was a chipset difference between the two but didn't think it was that much of a difference. Only took a few seconds off the boot time though.
    Go here: *****://www.soluto.com/ and install the software, it will measure startup time and give you a breakdown of what it's loading and when.

    I also saw you ask does peripherals matter, and if you are measuring your startup speed after BIOS has finished, then no.

    Also I never managed to get my Windows 7 quicker than 30 seconds with a Samsung 830 SSD.
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    Originally Posted by spitty13 View Post
    I have a crucial m4 128Gb where my OS is installed along with various programs. It takes about 45 seconds from the time I push my power button to get to desktop. Once the bios is cleared it takes about 15 seconds to go to desktop. I also have a c300 64gb SSD I use for steam games a 2TB HDD for storage, but I dont think those make too much of a difference. I have a lot of peripherals too if that makes a difference.
    So its the BIOS thats slowing you down.
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    Go into the bios, make sure "quick boot" or "fast boot" is enabled. Second, disable the BIOS startup screen and raid detection if those options are available (you aren't using raid it seems).

    My Thinkpad goes from cold boot (turned off) to log-on screen in less than 10 seconds. Using the fingerprint reader gets me to the desktop with everything loaded in about 15-16 seconds (Intel 520 SSD).
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    Originally Posted by spitty13 View Post
    Well fuk me sideways I just doubled my Crystal mark.



    I knew there was a chipset difference between the two but didn't think it was that much of a difference. Only took a few seconds off the boot time though.
    Yeah Marvell doesn't play nicely with ssds. But yeah that clearly isn't the reason behind the main issue that you have. In fact, I think it's safe to assume that the ssd itself and the firmware can be ruled out as the cause of the problem.

    I highly doubt a USB peripheral is the cause of your problem, but you should test it so that it can be ruled out completely. The 'outdated' bios drivers could be the problem, but I really doubt it since they're not that old and people have had a similar problem as you back in 2011, but there's only one way to rule that out and like you said it could lead to other problems. If you've set up the bios boot up settings properly then I'm quite confident that it's the motherboard. Despite the praise that Asus receives on this forum, every Asus product that I've owned was a piece of **** and the customer service is a nightmare.

    If the lengthy boot up time doesn't bother you, then you should probably leave it be. If I were you though, I'd buy a MSI motherboard and RMA the Asus. I mean an ssd is relatively expensive and one of the advantages of having an ssd is the ridiculously fast boot up time.
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    You need to go into your BIOS or UEFI and disable anything your not using. Your computer checks all devices and PCI slots before booting.
    Disabling some of your unused slots and options will speed it up
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    Might sound stupid, but if you have a high end mouse, sometimes that can be the issue. I need to unplug my mouse at startup because my computer trys to boot off the memory in the mouse before it loads windows, causing a 30-1m extra startup time. Try unplugging all peripherals
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    I just wanted to give you guys an update as to how things are going. I went into the BIOS and went into every setting to see if there was optimizations that I could make. There is a bug with ASUS MOBOs that show the splash screen twice so I had change it from "force bios" to "keep current". That shaved off a few seconds. There is an option for "Marvell storage OPROM" and "display option rom in post" for JMB controller both of which look like can be disabled. Under boot options I disabled full screen logo changed post report to 1 second.

    Some of these options sound like they are specific to ASUS MOBOs, but I bet you could apply them to different brands to speed up performance if you anyone is interested.

    Originally Posted by xaxistech View Post
    Might sound stupid, but if you have a high end mouse, sometimes that can be the issue. I need to unplug my mouse at startup because my computer trys to boot off the memory in the mouse before it loads windows, causing a 30-1m extra startup time. Try unplugging all peripherals
    I don't think I will be unplugging any peripherals even if it speed up boot time. I am just a little over 30 seconds from power switch to desktop so I can live with that.

    I can post BIOS screen shots if anyone is interested.

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