Find me some pics of Kevin looking grainy....
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01-04-2013, 11:14 PM #31
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01-05-2013, 02:22 AM #35
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01-05-2013, 02:31 AM #36
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01-05-2013, 03:11 AM #37
Goddamn.......Phil would destroy Levrone on stage. And i love myself a bit of the Maryland Muscle Machine but Heath is just so damn complete.
''There’s this battle over waterboarding at places like Guantanamo Bay. I think that they should just say, “Hey, if you guys don’t talk, you have to see Hercules In New York.” I guarantee those guys would talk much faster. You don’t need to do waterboarding or anything else. That’s the ultimate threat.''
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01-05-2013, 05:18 AM #38
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01-05-2013, 07:24 AM #39
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01-05-2013, 07:37 AM #40''There’s this battle over waterboarding at places like Guantanamo Bay. I think that they should just say, “Hey, if you guys don’t talk, you have to see Hercules In New York.” I guarantee those guys would talk much faster. You don’t need to do waterboarding or anything else. That’s the ultimate threat.''
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Team Kai
''Well that's a kick in the gentleman relish'' MaKaiser
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01-05-2013, 08:28 AM #41
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01-05-2013, 09:29 AM #43
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01-05-2013, 09:33 AM #44
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01-05-2013, 09:34 AM #45
Define genetics?
Phil is more complete(from a judging point) with better shape(debatable), a lot more detail to his physique and he has the ability to get in great condition every single time he hits the stage.
No need to talk about drugs because clearly both of them have great receptors and phenomenal response to drugs and we have no way of measuring who responded best.
So how can you tell that Kevin (for sure) have better genetics then Phil?
And LOL at Heath being a "little" better then Levrone.Last edited by Bjumbo; 01-05-2013 at 09:43 AM.
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01-05-2013, 09:36 AM #46
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01-05-2013, 09:40 AM #47
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01-05-2013, 09:55 AM #48
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01-05-2013, 10:27 AM #49
Neither at their best but a comparison nonetheless
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...53&pagenumber=
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01-05-2013, 10:31 AM #50
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01-05-2013, 10:46 AM #51
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01-05-2013, 11:37 AM #52
Better structure, better muscle bellies.Phil has better calves. Enough. Won't say anything for AAS response.
To all people who say Heath will destroy Levrone..he will beat him, but destroy? Please go. Levrone went against the greats and always was close. Hell he was better than Dorian in 1995.
The comparison linked is dumb, dude used Levrone pics from 2003 ...Last edited by Riflemancho; 01-05-2013 at 11:45 AM.
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01-05-2013, 01:11 PM #53
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01-05-2013, 01:12 PM #54
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01-05-2013, 01:24 PM #55
Heath wins back and quads hands down but Kevin beats Heath in delts, tri's, chest, abs - has more detail as noted in the other thread. Also, Levrone has a tighter/narrower midsection and is still physically wider in the shoulders which gives him that crazy classic aesthetic look and insane MM hand clasp.
My fear is that Phil is going to get too big and lose his physique that is reminiscent of the 90's era before Dorian and Ronnie out massed everyone and took BB into a new direction.
I hope not. Either way, these two guys are what I think or would like to envision bodybuilding being about.
Like many others have said, I prefer Kevin's physique aesthetic wise but can admit that Phil would likely win due to his fullness, muscle shape/roundness and overall complete physique.
It would be pretty epic to see these two do battle on their prime. If Kevin was ever able to bring his quads and back in together when they were strong, we would have a dog fight imho. Seemed though that When Kevin's back was decent his quads were lacking and vice versa, never really dialled in a totally complete physique which is a bit of a shame because all the pieces were there in various years and in various shows just not all n point together at once, they never fully bonded or formed like Voltron. ;]
ie. 2001 Olympia
Hangin with the big boyz and yeah, getting schooled from the back no doubt but not too ridiculously and this was one of Jay's best shows, actually, I had Jay winning personally, just my opinion. Jay and Ronnie have mass but look at Levrone's back and how small his waist is in comparison. Sadly, look also how small his legs were here...
On a side note, look at Jay's abs here...insane...don't think he had them ever pop like that even in '09, but I still preferred his overall '09 physique to his '01 personally. I had the 2001 O as 1. jay 2. Ronnie 3. Kevin but Ronnie and Jay were super close so it ain't really no thang that he won...
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01-05-2013, 02:34 PM #56
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01-05-2013, 02:43 PM #57
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01-05-2013, 02:55 PM #58
Yeah phil would beat kevin.
Also, using pictures from 02? Seriously?
Somwhere in that mess you said kevin never brought a complete package... a usual generic statement and pretty uninformative thing to say. Look at his physique at the 94 and 95 olympias, the 96 arnold, and in 99. Very balanced. It isn't a case that he got beat because he was always off, when he was on he was beaten by better bbers, simple as that. People say he had no back and legs because he got beat by 2 guys who had the best back and legs... makes sense.
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