According to the IIFYM philosophy you can eat anything you want in the combination you want as long as you hit your macros
But according to others like Martin Berkhan, it's better not to combined high carb foods and high fat foods together
so he promotes eating high-carb and low-fat on training days and high-fat and low-carb on off days
This makes certain foods forbidden like fried foods, pizza, lasagna
I was wondering if that's the first rational objection to IIFYM, not based on broscience concept of clean foods
but on nutrients partitioning and the need to keep fat low when cells wants carbs after a workout and carb low
when glycogen is not depleted.
What do you think?
Thread: IIFYM and fat + carb
01-03-2013, 12:05 AM #1
IIFYM and fat + carb
01-03-2013, 12:16 AM #2
01-03-2013, 02:03 AM #3
the word itself says it
which is why people eat whatever they want as long as at the end of the day it fits their macros
they eat doughnuts, pizza, ice-cream, bacon, cheesecake and so on
no one could find any objection to this approach, since it makes sense
but I wonder if, as Martin claims, keeping fat and carbs separated to maximize nutrient partitioning would be a good idea
that would also make many foods that combined high amount of carbs and high amount of fat, forbidden, making IIFYM impossible
btw: I'm going to make all the foocking stupid threads I want anytime I want so don't bother telling me what to do
01-03-2013, 02:22 AM #4
01-03-2013, 03:10 AM #5
Read a post regarding this that cought my eyes
Edit: posted by frommisc
no the gains wouldnt be the same at all.
think of it as follows
you have a car , it needs 3 elements to work properly, 10 literes of Oil, 15 literes of Water and 30 literes of gas.
so again,presum the car daily allowance is
oil + - 10% (20%)
water + - 10% (30% )
gas + - 10% (50%)
if you use 80% oil for it this would constitute 40 litres of oil and less litres for the other two, the car then wont run properly, same goes if you use 50% water a deficit will occur in the other two elements causing the car to malfunction properly.
So in short terms, when some of the donkey here say eat what you want but make sure you meet your macros this is not true at , its bullsh!t , you have to equalize your nutrients to the minimum of what your body needs
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01-03-2013, 08:41 AM #9
That's not what he does with his clients anymore though. That information is very out of date.
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