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    IIFYM and fat + carb

    According to the IIFYM philosophy you can eat anything you want in the combination you want as long as you hit your macros
    But according to others like Martin Berkhan, it's better not to combined high carb foods and high fat foods together
    so he promotes eating high-carb and low-fat on training days and high-fat and low-carb on off days

    This makes certain foods forbidden like fried foods, pizza, lasagna

    I was wondering if that's the first rational objection to IIFYM, not based on broscience concept of clean foods
    but on nutrients partitioning and the need to keep fat low when cells wants carbs after a workout and carb low
    when glycogen is not depleted.

    What do you think?
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    IIFYM is not just about macros

    Stop making stupid threads constantly
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    IIFYM is not just about macros

    Stop making stupid threads constantly
    IIFYM is just about macros
    the word itself says it

    which is why people eat whatever they want as long as at the end of the day it fits their macros
    they eat doughnuts, pizza, ice-cream, bacon, cheesecake and so on
    no one could find any objection to this approach, since it makes sense

    but I wonder if, as Martin claims, keeping fat and carbs separated to maximize nutrient partitioning would be a good idea
    that would also make many foods that combined high amount of carbs and high amount of fat, forbidden, making IIFYM impossible

    btw: I'm going to make all the foocking stupid threads I want anytime I want so don't bother telling me what to do
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    shutup.
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    Read a post regarding this that cought my eyes

    check this

    Edit: posted by frommisc

    no the gains wouldnt be the same at all.

    think of it as follows

    you have a car , it needs 3 elements to work properly, 10 literes of Oil, 15 literes of Water and 30 literes of gas.


    so again,presum the car daily allowance is

    oil + - 10% (20%)

    water + - 10% (30% )

    gas + - 10% (50%)


    if you use 80% oil for it this would constitute 40 litres of oil and less litres for the other two, the car then wont run properly, same goes if you use 50% water a deficit will occur in the other two elements causing the car to malfunction properly.


    So in short terms, when some of the donkey here say eat what you want but make sure you meet your macros this is not true at , its bullsh!t , you have to equalize your nutrients to the minimum of what your body needs
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    Originally Posted by walterCorrey View Post
    Read a post regarding this that cought my eyes

    check this

    Edit: posted by frommisc
    Lol what a joke.

    He says if you exceed 50% (say it was protein) you wouldn't function. You don't have to be exact
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    Originally Posted by JaredPunch View Post
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    Originally Posted by JaredPunch View Post
    According to the IIFYM philosophy you can eat anything you want in the combination you want as long as you hit your macros
    But according to others like Martin Berkhan, it's better not to combined high carb foods and high fat foods together
    so he promotes eating high-carb and low-fat on training days and high-fat and low-carb on off days
    That's not at all why Martin did that. He kept fats low and carbs high on days when eating in a surplus in an attempt to minimize fat gains while eating in a surplus (operating on the theory of fat is more easily stored as fat than carbs since there is no lossy conversion process like there is with carbs). Carbs were lowered and fats were raised on non-training to days in order to reduce overall calories, and bump up fats to compensate for lower fats on training days.

    That's not what he does with his clients anymore though. That information is very out of date.
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    Originally Posted by oskarhul09 View Post
    hey OP

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