Ive used creatine and nitric oxide in different years. Last year leading up to summer I didn't use anything. I haven't seen any difference in results. Has anyone used hgh stimulators. As far as I can see nothing but hard work and determination will get you where you want to be. I know we can all say if I didn't take it would I have got the results I got. That's why I tried one year of garbage free workouts. Protein is the only thing I believe in along with bcaas.
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01-02-2013, 09:48 AM #1
What's Your thoughts on supplements not including protein?
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01-02-2013, 10:15 AM #4
Last edited by ironwill2008; 01-02-2013 at 03:32 PM.
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01-02-2013, 10:19 AM #5
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01-02-2013, 10:25 AM #7
To me..D3 has been a god send because I moved up to a place where the sun rarely shines. Coming from Florida it was a very hard ajustment. But the D3 does work. I take anywhere from 5000iu's to 10,000iu's a day.
The only others I care about is Potassium and Magnesium. Has helped in the cramping department.http://www.hollandreflexology.com/
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01-02-2013, 10:35 AM #8
I take protein as a dietary supplement (a little extra protein without a lot of calories).
I take creatine off and on (on right now) and have never noticed any benefit.
The only aminos or BCAA's that I've noticed making a difference was Amino Fuel. I didn't take that by the recommended dosage, I was much younger and wouldn't even try to workout program I used while I was taking Amino Fuel. I tried taking it the suggested way a few months back and didn't notice any great difference.
I take a Pre Workout but that is for the caffeine kick more than anything. I definitely have stronger lifts when I take it. But again I'm sure that is due to the caffeine. I don't think the NO part of it has any effect.
I'm still a noob (or I'm a noob again), so maybe my results are different than a more experienced lifter.
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01-02-2013, 10:52 AM #9
Supps I use:
ON Whey Protein
Creatine Mono
Brewer's Yeast
I just started using PreWO supps, but not necessary imo. Some are better than others. Just ordered a year+ supply so I can vary them a bit and take breaks from them too.
And finally, fish oil, vit C, D and a few other misc things.- Don't get caught up in all the hype. Just lift, eat and rest! -
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01-02-2013, 11:16 AM #11
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Outside of the four sups IW mentioned above^^^, the only other supplements I swear by are ZMA for sleep and Cissus for tendon/ligament health. Both of these supplements have had a noticeable impact on my training. I occasionally do a preworkout but most often I opt for a 16oz coffee on my commute to the gym.
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01-02-2013, 12:31 PM #13
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I wont take so much as a vitamin anymore.
I dont trust any of them. Dont trust medicine either other then once in a while aspirin or maybe motrin.
I dont trust them. Why are so many people sick yet have access to so much medicine?
Why are so many people unhealthy yet have access to so many vitamins?
Yes conspiracy.
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01-02-2013, 12:32 PM #14
Have just started taking Kre-Alkalyn, this was recommended to me by the local health store ahead of creatine (even though the creatine was more expensive), but is my first time using a supplement other than whey.
Will run through the course, about 1-2 months worth, and see if I notice any benefits (or conversely side-effects) and will reassess their continued use at that pointMy journal http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150040863
Max Lifts
Squat 135kgs (297 lbs)
Bench 105kgs (231 lbs)
Deads 160kgs (352lbs)
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01-02-2013, 12:56 PM #15
Whey isolate, casein occasionally before bed (usually cottage instead), a multi vite, and on/off I'll use glutamine powder. I've never found creatine to work. Good food, smart and consistent training, rest combined with some often uncontrollable factors such as stress and genetics will determine results.
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01-02-2013, 01:28 PM #16
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Supplements are named exactly as they should be, if you get plenty of protein, BCAA's, creatine, etc etc during the course of eating your normal meals then you don't need any extra "supplements" However if you are like a lot of busy working people you probably don't consume enough decent food ot actually accomplish this and that's where supplements have their place. I like protein/whey and also take creatine as well as BCAA's and that's it. No longer take pre-workouts because never felt like they did a whole lot. Have also taken fish oil as well as Glucosamine in the past for quite sometime and never felt any benefits from those either, but maybe that's because I tend to eat a lot of fish anyways?
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01-02-2013, 02:23 PM #21
I often think of supplments...
1. if I ground up ephedrine, could I inject it along with a saline solution pre-workout to make it work faster?
2. can I snort creatine? would it work better using a rolled up $50 or $100 bill?
3. like alcohol, would my DAA be better absorbed if I stuck it up my rectum? Could I get a toxic angus from this?
4. since nitric oxide is a gas, lasting approx. 3 seconds in the human body, wouldn't it make more sense walking around inhaling this stuff from a portable bottle? Like old folks do with oxygen.
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01-02-2013, 02:41 PM #24
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I take fish oils for the omega 3s and also Vitamin D, which I think is essential for us northern hemisphere types, since we get little sunlight in winter. I used to get SAD but the D seems to keep this at bay.
I also take zinc/mag before bed. Again, mag is something most people are deficient in.
I take creatine when bulking but I don't view it as absolutely essential. However, it's fairly cheap so why not?Current log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149169243
Now cutting!
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01-02-2013, 04:07 PM #28
I figured thats what most would say
I think it is mostly hype and anything that says it is the next best thing to a steroid gets our attention. After all that is the common goal to build as much muscle as possible. Protein powders and bars help us keep our intake up through the day. Unless you have time to eat every couple hours of course. From what I read on bcaas it helps decrease muscle breakdown especially when dieting and trying to lose that bulk from the winter. As far as preworkout drinks I've heard enough bad about them as far as not sleeping for days, rapid heart beat, etc. I'll take the I want to get out of here thought and brute force through the workout when I'm not feeling it.
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