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    What's Your thoughts on supplements not including protein?

    Ive used creatine and nitric oxide in different years. Last year leading up to summer I didn't use anything. I haven't seen any difference in results. Has anyone used hgh stimulators. As far as I can see nothing but hard work and determination will get you where you want to be. I know we can all say if I didn't take it would I have got the results I got. That's why I tried one year of garbage free workouts. Protein is the only thing I believe in along with bcaas.
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    Originally Posted by jdudek View Post

    What's Your thoughts on supplements not including protein?
    I think it's 'interesting' that the few that actually seem to have any effect (protein powder, fish oil, creatine monohydrate, and vitamins) are all simply analogs of regular-food sources of what they offer.
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    Originally Posted by jdudek View Post
    Ive used creatine and nitric oxide in different years. Last year leading up to summer I didn't use anything. I haven't seen any difference in results. Has anyone used hgh stimulators. As far as I can see nothing but hard work and determination will get you where you want to be. I know we can all say if I didn't take it would I have got the results I got. That's why I tried one year of garbage free workouts.
    I think nitric oxide is a bunch of hype, and I've never gotten any benefit from creatine ( perhaps I eat enough red meat ).

    Originally Posted by jdudek View Post
    Protein is the only thing I believe in along with bcaas.
    I feel similarly. Most supplements are much more hype than anything else.
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    I believe in Creatine, Protein and Pre workouts, i personally havent used BCAA"s enough nor Glutamine enough to see substantial results. But Creatine for sure.
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    To me..D3 has been a god send because I moved up to a place where the sun rarely shines. Coming from Florida it was a very hard ajustment. But the D3 does work. I take anywhere from 5000iu's to 10,000iu's a day.

    The only others I care about is Potassium and Magnesium. Has helped in the cramping department.
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    I take protein as a dietary supplement (a little extra protein without a lot of calories).

    I take creatine off and on (on right now) and have never noticed any benefit.

    The only aminos or BCAA's that I've noticed making a difference was Amino Fuel. I didn't take that by the recommended dosage, I was much younger and wouldn't even try to workout program I used while I was taking Amino Fuel. I tried taking it the suggested way a few months back and didn't notice any great difference.

    I take a Pre Workout but that is for the caffeine kick more than anything. I definitely have stronger lifts when I take it. But again I'm sure that is due to the caffeine. I don't think the NO part of it has any effect.

    I'm still a noob (or I'm a noob again), so maybe my results are different than a more experienced lifter.
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    I just started using PreWO supps, but not necessary imo. Some are better than others. Just ordered a year+ supply so I can vary them a bit and take breaks from them too.

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    I took White Flood for 6 days straight and it put me in the emergency room because of PVC's. My heart was even doing backflips in my sleep it was so bad. IMO anything with stims in it is BAD!

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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    I think it's 'interesting' that the few that actually seem to have any effect (protein powder, fish oil, creatine monohydrate, and vitamins) are all simply analogs of reguar-food sources of what they offer.
    Outside of the four sups IW mentioned above^^^, the only other supplements I swear by are ZMA for sleep and Cissus for tendon/ligament health. Both of these supplements have had a noticeable impact on my training. I occasionally do a preworkout but most often I opt for a 16oz coffee on my commute to the gym.
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    I wont take so much as a vitamin anymore.

    I dont trust any of them. Dont trust medicine either other then once in a while aspirin or maybe motrin.

    I dont trust them. Why are so many people sick yet have access to so much medicine?

    Why are so many people unhealthy yet have access to so many vitamins?

    Yes conspiracy.
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    Have just started taking Kre-Alkalyn, this was recommended to me by the local health store ahead of creatine (even though the creatine was more expensive), but is my first time using a supplement other than whey.

    Will run through the course, about 1-2 months worth, and see if I notice any benefits (or conversely side-effects) and will reassess their continued use at that point
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    Whey isolate, casein occasionally before bed (usually cottage instead), a multi vite, and on/off I'll use glutamine powder. I've never found creatine to work. Good food, smart and consistent training, rest combined with some often uncontrollable factors such as stress and genetics will determine results.
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    Originally Posted by crupiea View Post
    I wont take so much as a vitamin anymore.

    I dont trust any of them. Dont trust medicine either other then once in a while aspirin or maybe motrin.

    I dont trust them. Why are so many people sick yet have access to so much medicine?

    Why are so many people unhealthy yet have access to so many vitamins?

    Yes conspiracy.
    I tend to agree. It seems like the people I know who are the sickest are the ones that go to the doctor all the time and take the most prescription drugs.
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    Originally Posted by jdudek View Post
    Protein is the only thing I believe in along with bcaas.
    Protein supplements are just food, or, more specifically, a processed fast food that's marketed extremely well.

    And, by the way, the protein you consume already contains amply amounts of BCAA's.
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    Supplements are named exactly as they should be, if you get plenty of protein, BCAA's, creatine, etc etc during the course of eating your normal meals then you don't need any extra "supplements" However if you are like a lot of busy working people you probably don't consume enough decent food ot actually accomplish this and that's where supplements have their place. I like protein/whey and also take creatine as well as BCAA's and that's it. No longer take pre-workouts because never felt like they did a whole lot. Have also taken fish oil as well as Glucosamine in the past for quite sometime and never felt any benefits from those either, but maybe that's because I tend to eat a lot of fish anyways?
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    Originally Posted by crupiea View Post
    I wont take so much as a vitamin anymore.

    I dont trust any of them. Dont trust medicine either other then once in a while aspirin or maybe motrin.

    I dont trust them. Why are so many people sick yet have access to so much medicine?

    Why are so many people unhealthy yet have access to so many vitamins?

    Yes conspiracy.
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    Originally Posted by bigtallox View Post
    I tend to agree. It seems like the people I know who are the sickest are the ones that go to the doctor all the time and take the most prescription drugs.
    If you take a brand new car to the mechanics they will find something wrong with it if they look hard enough. You could have driven the car perfectly well without ever noticing the fault but once they point it out you will always think about it and want to do something about it.
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    I often think of supplments...

    1. if I ground up ephedrine, could I inject it along with a saline solution pre-workout to make it work faster?
    2. can I snort creatine? would it work better using a rolled up $50 or $100 bill?
    3. like alcohol, would my DAA be better absorbed if I stuck it up my rectum? Could I get a toxic angus from this?
    4. since nitric oxide is a gas, lasting approx. 3 seconds in the human body, wouldn't it make more sense walking around inhaling this stuff from a portable bottle? Like old folks do with oxygen.
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    Originally Posted by ArchAngel'73 View Post
    I often think of supplments...

    1. if I ground up ephedrine, could I inject it along with a saline solution pre-workout to make it work faster?
    2. can I snort creatine? would it work better using a rolled up $50 or $100 bill?
    3. like alcohol, would my DAA be better absorbed if I stuck it up my rectum? Could I get a toxic angus from this?
    4. since nitric oxide is a gas, lasting approx. 3 seconds in the human body, wouldn't it make more sense walking around inhaling this stuff from a portable bottle? Like old folks do with oxygen.
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    Ive used creatine and nitric oxide in different years. Last year leading up to summer I didn't use anything. I haven't seen any difference in results. Has anyone used hgh stimulators. As far as I can see nothing but hard work and determination will get you where you want to be. I know we can all say if I didn't take it would I have got the results I got. That's why I tried one year of garbage free workouts. Protein is the only thing I believe in along with bcaas.
    I read the top 50 list on this site as well as all of the reviews and comb the product review/supp forums and make a decision after extensive reading. By doing it this way i feel i have a lil direction in selecting various products. Good luck!
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    I take fish oils for the omega 3s and also Vitamin D, which I think is essential for us northern hemisphere types, since we get little sunlight in winter. I used to get SAD but the D seems to keep this at bay.
    I also take zinc/mag before bed. Again, mag is something most people are deficient in.
    I take creatine when bulking but I don't view it as absolutely essential. However, it's fairly cheap so why not?
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    Clearly you haven't tried freon yet..... It's totally underground.
    Why are you holding out on this info bro?
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    Clearly you haven't tried freon yet..... It's totally underground.
    Shhh, you can't discuss this because BB doesn't sell it...........yet.
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    Originally Posted by ArchAngel'73 View Post
    ... would my DAA be better absorbed if I stuck it up my rectum?






    EDIT: It wouldn't surprise me if some guys would try this if they were told it would bring them some extra gainz.
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    I figured thats what most would say

    I think it is mostly hype and anything that says it is the next best thing to a steroid gets our attention. After all that is the common goal to build as much muscle as possible. Protein powders and bars help us keep our intake up through the day. Unless you have time to eat every couple hours of course. From what I read on bcaas it helps decrease muscle breakdown especially when dieting and trying to lose that bulk from the winter. As far as preworkout drinks I've heard enough bad about them as far as not sleeping for days, rapid heart beat, etc. I'll take the I want to get out of here thought and brute force through the workout when I'm not feeling it.
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    Originally Posted by jdudek View Post
    I think it is mostly hype and anything that says it is the next best thing to a steroid gets our attention. After all that is the common goal to build as much muscle as possible. Protein powders and bars help us keep our intake up through the day. Unless you have time to eat every couple hours of course. From what I read on bcaas it helps decrease muscle breakdown especially when dieting and trying to lose that bulk from the winter. As far as preworkout drinks I've heard enough bad about them as far as not sleeping for days, rapid heart beat, etc. I'll take the I want to get out of here thought and brute force through the workout when I'm not feeling it.
    Which ones? I have tried them all, and never had any of that happen.
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    Not sure. I've never used any of them. Just talk in the gym. For all I know these guys are od-ing on them.
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