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12-28-2012, 03:09 PM #91
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12-28-2012, 03:10 PM #92
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12-28-2012, 03:10 PM #93
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12-28-2012, 03:10 PM #95
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Enough with the "is going to cause problems."
Where is the evidence? There is none.
Actually there is evidence, and it is to the contrary (look up Utah). They've had this for over a decade without any problems.
Let's look at reality, as in, what actually happens, and stop falling back on lazy, emotional, "what if" arguments.Don't complain about the results you didn't get from the work you didn't do.
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12-28-2012, 03:10 PM #96
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12-28-2012, 03:11 PM #97
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12-28-2012, 03:13 PM #100
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12-28-2012, 03:13 PM #101
And what if one of these teachers turns out to be a psychopath? Cheesus Christ. *smh*
Or if somehow, one of the students got his hands on one of these guns. The derpy possabilities are endless.Spike92 is 15.
^ place this in your sig to remind the world that Spike92 is indeed 15 and will never be anything other than 15.
When im not hungry I eat. When Im tired I train. When I feel like giving up I push harder.
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12-28-2012, 03:13 PM #102
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Well then you agree with the NRA.
I disagree with this (if it were a federal program) because it would be another massive program that we can't afford. If an individual school district wants to go this route, that would be perfectly fine with me. My middle and high schools both had armed police on campus at all times.
But, I don't see the problem with letting individual teachers who already have a CHL or who go through the class to get their CHL, take some extra training and be allowed to carry at school, the same way they are allowed to pretty much everywhere else.Don't complain about the results you didn't get from the work you didn't do.
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12-28-2012, 03:14 PM #103
How many presidents have been assassinated?
You do realize that there are ways to get guns through metal detectors, right?
You do realize there are other ways to kill a lot of people without using a gun at all, right?
read my other post ^^ for more examples, this is still a stupid argument because guns are not the problem..Last post in every thread crew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT4VXF1XJYk
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12-28-2012, 03:14 PM #104
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Metal detectors are a world of problems.
Very inefficient. You know how long it takes going through the airport line? Imagine doing it at school with hundreds of kids EVERY single day.
You have to be an idiot to think that's a reasonable solution. And like Steak N Taters is pointing out, the machine itself doesn't actually do anything. These shooters aren't trying to smuggle something in. They don't give a sh*t if you know they have guns. It's pretty much a suicide mission, so detectors are not functional in this situation at all.
They work at airports because no one is trying to blow up/shoot up the terminals, so the detection stops them well before they reach their target.
Unless you want to put these 50 feet from every entrance at least you're wasting your time.
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12-28-2012, 03:14 PM #105
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12-28-2012, 03:16 PM #112
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It's not useless.
If you use sound reason you can eventually sway some people.
Again, no one is saying "require that all teachers be armed."
Thousands of people already have their CHLs and are already allowed to carry their gun practically ANYWHERE. Statistically, CHL holders are FAR less likely to commit ANY crime than non-CHL holders.
How would letting these people carry in school change anything? Is there a magic border surrounding the school that makes people more likely to go insane?Don't complain about the results you didn't get from the work you didn't do.
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12-28-2012, 03:17 PM #113
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12-28-2012, 03:19 PM #114
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This.
Again people, let's look at what ACTUALLY HAPPENS (reality), and stop playing the "brb what if" game (emotional fantasy).
I wish people would stop coming into these threads with the attitude of "OMG U REDUMBLICANS R SO DUMB U STOOPID KUNTS" and actually read and consider the sounds arguments / logic that are being put in front of you. If you disagree, that's fine, but disagree and post some stats / facts that back up you argument. By the way, "but omg what if this happened" is not a fact to back up your argument.Don't complain about the results you didn't get from the work you didn't do.
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12-28-2012, 03:19 PM #115
Christ...your idea of living sounds like Israel. Who the fuk wants to live in a world where your kids feel like they are in a police state. Give me a fukin break
What is stopping the psychopath teachers from bringing a gun to school now and offing some kids????
Doesnt make it any easier for a nut to go nuts......but it sure makes it easier to stop one.
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12-28-2012, 03:20 PM #116
yeah i agree wth NRA, and regarding firearms federal program, thats another thing, buit come to think of it, we've been wasting money right and left on bullsh!t stuff, investing in the safety of our kids os something the government should under go, no mtter what the price is
your 110% right and am with you on this, but is there a better option? Come to think of it best thing to do is firearms control. ban the selling of firearms to all civilian personal. period.
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12-28-2012, 03:20 PM #117
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12-28-2012, 03:21 PM #118
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12-28-2012, 03:21 PM #119
LOL, they are driven by emotion. Logic and reason doesnt work on them.
I am pro guns and own many firearms. I think you just didn't understand the point I was trying to make..
great point.
strong what if's
CCW implies it will be kept on them at all time.Last post in every thread crew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT4VXF1XJYk
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12-28-2012, 03:21 PM #120
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Yeah not fond of this idea either truthfully.
I don't really think we need to do anything actually. It sucks that it has happened a couple times but unless you plan on teaching kids in a prison-like environment you're really wasting your time. Anything you do will make them more unsafe.
Schools are not really an unsafe place. The nation is obsessed with these isolated incidents, and while tragic, are nowhere near representative of schools across the nation.
Next thing you know a daycare will be shot up and people will want armed forces there. Come on guys....let's be realistic. Nothing needs to be done to secure schools any more.
Someone on a suicide mission is most likely always going to take some people out with them because it's impossible to know what their plans are until they start shooting. And since it's a suicide mission, the plan consists of pick a place and start shooting. No way to stop that.
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