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    Cool. And yes, yes... I moved to Hartford. Because the crime rate in Springfield just wasn't high enough for me.
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    All in all, despite the knee problem, It was an epic workout. To touch on the energy of 4 scoops - it didnt feel so much like caffeine or stims. It felt like I had just woke up from a good long coma. I was more awake and alert and felt more rested than Ive ever been. There was no crash at all, the only problem is that this awake and alert was still there around 10pm when I tried to go to bed. I ended up playing xbox until 12:30 and overslept this morning Good times.
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    WHOA. There's a great marketing angle we need to explore!
    My next log will be a Xbox log. Been playing Medal of Honor and with Origin, I'm one heII of a sniper.
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    Thursday Night Updates!!! As promised, I took 3 scoops of Origin tonight and beat Medal of Honor on the difficult setting. I hardly ever play xbox, but occasionally Ill go on a short binge. I beat it in three days of casual playing. It was a cool game but it way to short and way to easy. Could it be the Origin that supplied oober amounts of focus and alertness that made me have precision killshots, and spot on grenade throws? Sure! But the game didnt provide as much of a challenge as I hoped.
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    Thursday Night Training - Lower Power
    10 minute warmup - treadmill, level 3 incline, speed 3.2

    Barbell Squats
    • 135x10
    • 185x10
    • 205x10
    • 225x6
    • 245x5
    • 245x5
    • 275x3
    • 275x2
    • 275x7 -- w/ knee wraps --

    Hack Squats x plates/side
    • 1x15
    • 2x12
    • 3x8
    • 3.25x6

    Leg Extension
    • 110x12
    • 130x8

    Leg Curl
    • 90x15
    • 110x10
    • 120x7


    Notes: Three scoops of Origin 45 minutes preWO (yes, the training came before the XBox lol). Tonight was a trying workout - I wasnt really crazy about going in tonight. My knee was pretty sore and stiff today from the cold, I believe. Whenever we're going to get any type of rain/snow or extreme cold, my knees become 130 year old knees. But I expected this and dosed the sh!t out of my cissus powder yesterday and today. It helped some, but tonight was rough. Once I was really warmed up it was game on. The significant effects of Origin were experienced during the squats. Over the summer I was doing StrongLifts 5x5 training program. I had progressed up to 285# for 5x5. So tonight hitting 275 for a pathetic 3 was quite humbling as to how quickly gains can disappear. I had bought some knee wraps from Elite FTS with the anticipation of needing them for some max weight lifting. I havent really used them yet so for some reason, I got the urge cast up and waddle to the bar and try them out! It took me a few trys to get a decent wrap, but once I broke a mean sweat wrapping, I finally got a good crisscross pattern wrap. I was pleasantly surprised how much these helped. I knew they would help some, but I had no idea how much they really help. My set of 3 @275 was pretty close to failure. After wrapping, I hit 7 @ 275 and it was certainly not to failure. Id estimate I had another 4 or so in the tank, but the wraps are only really good for one or two reps before they start moving a bit. After having done these squats, I normally would have been toasted. I was actually really looking forward to smashing some more weight. Tonight the mind-muscle connection was epic. I know Ive mentioned this a lot and thats because with Origin, its really incomparable to anything else. Ive been noticing the calming effects as well. I dont have any anxiety or wound up feelings, but Im full of focus and clean enjoyable energy. Nights Ive slept like crap, or not enough, I can take Origin mid morning and Im golden the rest of the workday. It provides a feeling of being fully rested and recooped. Origin seriously should not be assumed to be just a PWO, but a very versatile energy/mental focus supplement that can be take advantage of in numerous situations. Whether its playing video games, training, working a desk job, playing sports, or driving like a SOB down I-91 to get your girlfriend to the hospital to see her Grandfather, Origin won't let you down! All those situations are ones Ive taken Origin before doing. All those situations have honestly been improved because of it.
    One thing Id like to touch on is the flavor. Ive noticed that with a fixed amount of water, the flavor doesnt seem to change whether its one scoop or three. I like this because with other pres, one scoop is watered down, two is right on, three is punch in the mouth. The versatility or Origin is unparalleled.
    The pumps from Origin arent what some people are looking for, but thats actually a positive. You can take a great PWO and use your favorite pump products to find the right amount of pump for you. Increase the pump some days, tone it down other days. The citrulline in Origin is dosed perfectly IMHO. Its a great pump that doesnt blow you up. Its enough where you can still add some agmatine powder if you wish. When Im feeling extra crazy, Ill go 2 scoops Origin + 1 scoop Hemavol + 1 cap SlinSane + ~60g carbs. That, is some psychotic sh!t right there. Its crippling actually.


    Well thats it for now. There will more to come. Tomorrow is a rest day, probably going to go do some abs/cardio/stretching/foam rolling/eating tomorrow. Active rest
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    Awesome thoughts and work out.
    I'm like you te more I use origin the more I like it. I'm hooked on the flavor. It's been great for me doing morning work outs before I head to school.
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    Sorry no updates yesterday or today. Had a touch of the stomach bug so Ive been sleeping and watching a ton of movies. Expecting to be hitting chest and back tomorrow after work so Ill have a solid update coming tomorrow night. Still sippin on my Protocol/Xtend mixture though
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    Cmon dude, you're supposed to perform intense training when you're sick to "sweat out" the virus

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    Cmon dude, you're supposed to perform intense training when you're sick to "sweat out" the virus

    Hope you get better man
    Haha thats what I tried to do yesterday. I went in and did some incline hammer strength, and a couple dumbbell presses and thought I was going to pass out lol. Besides, turns out theres some pretty awesome movies on tv this weekend. Win win I suppose lol
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    Sorry no updates yesterday or today. Had a touch of the stomach bug so Ive been sleeping and watching a ton of movies. Expecting to be hitting chest and back tomorrow after work so Ill have a solid update coming tomorrow night. Still sippin on my Protocol/Xtend mixture though

    Hope you feel better man. I am on day 5 of antibiotics for a nasty sinus infection so I know that feeling
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    Hope you feel better man. I am on day 5 of antibiotics for a nasty sinus infection so I know that feeling
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    Sorry no updates yesterday or today. Had a touch of the stomach bug so Ive been sleeping and watching a ton of movies. Expecting to be hitting chest and back tomorrow after work so Ill have a solid update coming tomorrow night. Still sippin on my Protocol/Xtend mixture though
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    Ladies and Gentlemen! First day back in the gym today! Gonna smash some weights after work! Yesterday was my first day back to 100% After my illness subsided I decided to take a day or so to lay low and get some fresh air before getting back in to it.

    Im also thinking that it may be time to change up my training routine some, for the psychological benefit. Ive been getting kind of bored lately with this PHAT routine so I may go with a push/pull/legs. Or try something new and go upper/lower/upper/OFF/lower/upper/lower/OFF. I really dont like scheduling off days. I prefer to listen to my body and take a rest day or two as needed. Theres been times that Ive gone 8, 9, 10 days training without a rest day and I feel great. I believe that its truly more difficult to become "overtrained" than most people think. If your sleeping enough and your diet is on point that is. That being said, with Protocol, and Origin, I know Ive been recovering faster from workouts than my norm. Ive hit morning workouts and was ready for evening training the same day.

    I cant wait mix up my Origin today and see what happens. Today will be the first day of the new training routine.
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    Glad to hear you're goin to be back at it.
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    Glad to hear you're goin to be back at it.
    Listen to your body. You can tell whether you should back off or keep going. A routine change can be good too.
    Thanks Sarah I always try to listen to my body as to dictate how my training needs to be set up in terms of volume vs intesity vs frequency. Ive noticed better progress toward my goals when I do that rather than religiously stick to a set schedule of training days and off days. My theory, and Im not saying Im right or that other people will benefit but its always worked me, is that you feel good mentally and physically, than what good is it to not exercise. Im saying go in a hit the weights hard when you just went 3 or 4 days of heavy training. But instead of a day off I like to go in a do some light cardio and accessory work. Im a big fan of weak point training as well.
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    I decided Id go with the push/pull/legs split. I feel that with my work schedule and all else going on in my life, that betters suits me than an upper/lower split.
    I went with three generous scoops of Origin tonight and was a litte bummed because I noticed I have maybe a week left of three scoop doses. Maybe not even that.
    Three scoops really hit me hard tonight, but in a good way. Once I got to the gym all I wanted to do was lift, and lift lots. It was literally one exercise right to the next. I wasnt only very focused on the set, but I knew exactly what exercises I was going to do and in what order. I went in to each set with 110% and left nothing in the tank when I was finished with my 4-5 sets.

    A little break down of what I did tonight:

    Incline Bench Press:
    135x15
    185x12
    205x10
    205x9
    drop 135x20

    Cybex machine chest press (hammer strength was taken)
    130x15
    150x12
    150x11
    170x8
    135x12
    .......I really hate Cybex machines. And dont even get me started on Precor... my Golds decided it was a good idea to get rid of a perfectly good batch of HS machines and replace them with Precor which feel horrible. Awful. The shoulder press actually has you pushing up at a forward angle.

    Pushups
    3 sets to failure

    Seated Military Press
    95x15
    115x12
    115x10
    115x10
    135x8

    Cybex (ugh!) Lat Raise: (performed one arm at a time)
    90x12
    90x12
    90x11
    90x9

    One Arm Rear Delt Cable Extensions: whatever theyd be called...
    45x10
    50x9
    50x8
    40x10

    Tricep Pushdowns (rope):
    120x15
    130x14
    150x12 superset with low TRX band skullcrushers to failure
    150x9 superset with low TRX band skullcrushers to failure


    Reverse grip tricep cable Ext.
    50x9
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    Definitely brought my A-game tonight! I was very pleased with the workout and I think the change in split was what I needed. The pumps were pretty good, nothing crazy just enough to notice which is good. Vascularity has been increased since beginning this log as well so between that and the pumps, the blood flow is definitely increase. Thank you citrulline. I still cant get over the mind muscle connection. When training, my muscle contractions just feel better. I can actually focus on the muscle flexing rather than the weight lifting. For example, leg extensions, which is where I notice it the most. Its much easier for me to focus on the contraction of my quad, rather than the lower half of my leg lifting the weight, which has also helped a little bit in easing the sharp pain in my knee.

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    Keep it up. Lets see what the last week has in store for you.
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    Two updates to come. Thursday was a push day and the I trained with Jeff on Friday and did chest/back. Surprisingly my back was ready for a legit workout. Just lends to increased recovery I've experienced. Rowed 315 both days which felt pretty good.

    On a side note, I think I'm going to order a DonJoy cross strap for my knee to see if that helps. I also need to foam roll and stretch more to loosen my IT band.

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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Two updates to come. Thursday was a push day and the I trained with Jeff on Friday and did chest/back. Surprisingly my back was ready for a legit workout. Just lends to increased recovery I've experienced. Rowed 315 both days which felt pretty good.

    On a side note, I think I'm going to order a DonJoy cross strap for my knee to see if that helps. I also need to foam roll and stretch more to loosen my IT band.

    Will work on getting those 2 updates up over the weekend.
    Foam rolling has been a huge help for me. Plenty if spots to look up how to roll properly.
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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Notes: Three scoops of Origin 45 minutes preWO (yes, the training came before the XBox lol). Tonight was a trying workout - I wasnt really crazy about going in tonight. My knee was pretty sore and stiff today from the cold, I believe. Whenever we're going to get any type of rain/snow or extreme cold, my knees become 130 year old knees. But I expected this and dosed the sh!t out of my cissus powder yesterday and today. It helped some, but tonight was rough. Once I was really warmed up it was game on. The significant effects of Origin were experienced during the squats. Over the summer I was doing StrongLifts 5x5 training program. I had progressed up to 285# for 5x5. So tonight hitting 275 for a pathetic 3 was quite humbling as to how quickly gains can disappear. I had bought some knee wraps from Elite FTS with the anticipation of needing them for some max weight lifting. I havent really used them yet so for some reason, I got the urge cast up and waddle to the bar and try them out! It took me a few trys to get a decent wrap, but once I broke a mean sweat wrapping, I finally got a good crisscross pattern wrap. I was pleasantly surprised how much these helped. I knew they would help some, but I had no idea how much they really help. My set of 3 @275 was pretty close to failure. After wrapping, I hit 7 @ 275 and it was certainly not to failure. Id estimate I had another 4 or so in the tank, but the wraps are only really good for one or two reps before they start moving a bit. After having done these squats, I normally would have been toasted. I was actually really looking forward to smashing some more weight. Tonight the mind-muscle connection was epic. I know Ive mentioned this a lot and thats because with Origin, its really incomparable to anything else. Ive been noticing the calming effects as well. I dont have any anxiety or wound up feelings, but Im full of focus and clean enjoyable energy. Nights Ive slept like crap, or not enough, I can take Origin mid morning and Im golden the rest of the workday. It provides a feeling of being fully rested and recooped. Origin seriously should not be assumed to be just a PWO, but a very versatile energy/mental focus supplement that can be take advantage of in numerous situations. Whether its playing video games, training, working a desk job, playing sports, or driving like a SOB down I-91 to get your girlfriend to the hospital to see her Grandfather, Origin won't let you down! All those situations are ones Ive taken Origin before doing. All those situations have honestly been improved because of it.
    One thing Id like to touch on is the flavor. Ive noticed that with a fixed amount of water, the flavor doesnt seem to change whether its one scoop or three. I like this because with other pres, one scoop is watered down, two is right on, three is punch in the mouth. The versatility or Origin is unparalleled.
    The pumps from Origin arent what some people are looking for, but thats actually a positive. You can take a great PWO and use your favorite pump products to find the right amount of pump for you. Increase the pump some days, tone it down other days. The citrulline in Origin is dosed perfectly IMHO. Its a great pump that doesnt blow you up. Its enough where you can still add some agmatine powder if you wish. When Im feeling extra crazy, Ill go 2 scoops Origin + 1 scoop Hemavol + 1 cap SlinSane + ~60g carbs. That, is some psychotic sh!t right there. Its crippling actually.
    This sort of feed back is awesome, can't wait to see how Origin does once it hits BB.com super store. You hit a lot of key points and if I didn't know any better I'd say you saw the discussions the R&D had over designing the pre workout lol. Hopefully once more people try it they'll see that, despite the simplicity of the formula, it's a very unique product.
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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    This sort of feed back is awesome, can't wait to see how Origin does once it hits BB.com super store. You hit a lot of key points and if I didn't know any better I'd say you saw the discussions the R&D had over designing the pre workout lol. Hopefully once more people try it they'll see that, despite the simplicity of the formula, it's a very unique product.
    I'm pretty sure Origin will do just fine in the bb.com store. Genomyx has made an impressive name for themselves making quality products with very useful ingredients, and when u buy a product, you know exactly what youre getting. Honestly, its a company I would proud to be part of, and the products are ones I've been more than willing to purchase time and time again.

    And for the record, I didn't see any R&D discussions, despite being friends with Mike, I've always been able to remain unbiased.
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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    I'm pretty sure Origin will do just fine in the bb.com store. Genomyx has made an impressive name for themselves making quality products with very useful ingredients, and when u buy a product, you know exactly what youre getting. Honestly, its a company I would proud to be part of, and the products are ones I've been more than willing to purchase time and time again.

    And for the record, I didn't see any R&D discussions, despite being friends with Mike, I've always been able to remain unbiased.
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    Just wanted to say thanks for the samples of Protocol Eric, I really enjoyed it! Hopefully the package I sent you gets there soon
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    Originally Posted by BenW22 View Post
    Thanks for the love
    You're quite welcome good sir.

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    Just wanted to say thanks for the samples of Protocol Eric, I really enjoyed it! Hopefully the package I sent you gets there soon
    Glad you liked the Protocol bro. Did you get a chance to try it with the Origin for a 1-2 punch?
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    Got three updates for you guys. Im going to combine them in to one post though.
    Not going to post the workouts as my pull/chest back/legs days that Im posting about, were a little more low key for me. I was letting my joints take a break from the balls to the wall training. If you look at my post for my push day, thats how my pull and leg days were set up with similar volume and sets/reps.

    The Origin was a huge help these past few days because typically when I switch up a workout, I spend the first few days kinda goin through the motions figurin out the flow of things with the new workout, which exerices feel right together, weights, volume, etc. For the first time I think, I was able to get in, and from the first set I was training with high intensity and keeping the rest periods to a min. Not only was I focused on the task at hand, but I was focused on the workout as a whole and didnt poke around figuring things out. I also had a great burn goin on and sweat like a feind. Probably a shock going to a 20-30 second break between sets. The Origin definitely helped me keep the rest periods down which I really noticed as even when I try to keep the rest periods around 30 seconds, it never ends up happening. The past few days have been consistent in terms of energy, focus and endurance. It was an epic feeling being about to lift the same weights, but with shorter rests between sets. Origin will without a doubt be included in my cut to help keep the endurance and muscle tone up.

    Today was a day off, tomorrow is a push day. What better day than a push day to have for the final three scoops of Origin! Ill have my review for that coming hopefully tomorrow night as long as I dont get more sh!t to bring home from work!... fukkin auditors lol. This week Ill be working on a final review as well which Im really looking forward to writing up. This has been my favorite log thus far, sponsored or unsponsored.
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    Does anyone know if its possible to take a Word document and post it within a thread? I have my final review typed up for ya'll!!

    I had my update from my final session with Origin, it was a crazy good session too. Had it all typed up on here, was almost finished when Internet Explorer froze....smh. So I figured screw it. Ill do the final review then lol.
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    Does anyone know if its possible to take a Word document and post it within a thread? I have my final review typed up for ya'll!!

    I had my update from my final session with Origin, it was a crazy good session too. Had it all typed up on here, was almost finished when Internet Explorer froze....smh. So I figured screw it. Ill do the final review then lol.
    Just copy/paste the word doc content ITT or attach the document to your post
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    Just copy/paste the word doc content ITT or attach the document to your post
    Righto! I knew I could copy/paste, but I dont think the bullet points and center alignment would transfer over. Ill try attaching it though.
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    Sorry I didnt get this up soon guys! Been crazy busy, Ive been having to force myself up early just to fit in my training before work. Which has sucked!

    Heres the final review of Origin guys! Enjoy.

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