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    Originally Posted by The Big Sleep View Post
    I would agree with the amendment, but it might be better to just say "Start out with 1 serving (2 scoops) to assess tolerance. If you tolerate it well, work up to 1.5 servings (3 scoops) of Origin for increased effects."
    Nicely put. I dont remember off the top of my head by I know there a product out there with directions like that. Theres the recommended dosage. And then "for hardcore effects" Or something along those lines.

    But would it still be a cost effective product if most, if not all, of the users are at three scoops?

    The more I think about it though, it doesnt seem like a bad idea to leave it how it is. Look at how versatile Origin. You can take it alone and get great effects, or add in your preferred bulk powders for super effects. I think leaving the dosages alone makes it one of the few products that you can truly manipulate and add in your own touch of ingredients to really dial it in to you your personal needs/preference. Also depending on the workout. I personally dont use Hemavol or other agmatine/citrulline products on arm days. And only a little on leg days. I feel that the pump can hinder those workouts. Being about to control the pump-energy ratio is a solid feature imo.
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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Nicely put. I dont remember off the top of my head by I know there a product out there with directions like that. Theres the recommended dosage. And then "for hardcore effects" Or something along those lines.

    But would it still be a cost effective product if most, if not all, of the users are at three scoops?

    The more I think about it though, it doesnt seem like a bad idea to leave it how it is. Look at how versatile Origin. You can take it alone and get great effects, or add in your preferred bulk powders for super effects. I think leaving the dosages alone makes it one of the few products that you can truly manipulate and add in your own touch of ingredients to really dial it in to you your personal needs/preference. Also depending on the workout. I personally dont use Hemavol or other agmatine/citrulline products on arm days. And only a little on leg days. I feel that the pump can hinder those workouts. Being about to control the pump-energy ratio is a solid feature imo.
    At the price point of Origin, it is still a great value at 3 scoops...especially the flexibility of the energy, the slow, mellow onset, and the long-lasting endurance coupled with the long-lasting energy. I agree it really is versatile...makes an unbelievable stack with Protocol (which is also extremely customizable...I go 2 servings pre-chest day, only 1 pre-legs, don't want too much of a pump!), and even moreso with CreIGNITE when it is released. The ability of our line to not only deliver immediate results, but get better with time and provide surpassing health benefits beyond simply great workouts, really sets it apart. Glad you are liking it brother!
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    Originally Posted by ajerone View Post
    At the price point of Origin, it is still a great value at 3 scoops...especially the flexibility of the energy, the slow, mellow onset, and the long-lasting endurance coupled with the long-lasting energy. I agree it really is versatile...makes an unbelievable stack with Protocol (which is also extremely customizable...I go 2 servings pre-chest day, only 1 pre-legs, don't want too much of a pump!), and even moreso with CreIGNITE when it is released. The ability of our line to not only deliver immediate results, but get better with time and provide surpassing health benefits beyond simply great workouts, really sets it apart. Glad you are liking it brother!
    You really cant beat the prices when you look at the quality of what you're getting. Sure theres other supplements that might be a bit cheaper, but I know Id rather spend the extra buck or two and get something of high quality that i KNOW has worked in the past and will work now. And it seems that when Genomyx reformulates their products (SlinSane), it only gets better. Thats why I was honored to be logging for such a respectable company. Genomyx really has their values in check, it seems.
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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Genomyx really has their values in check, it seems.
    Thanks man we really appreciate comments like that. As athletes we wouldn't want to release anything we wouldn't want to take ourselves. We prove that by releasing non-prop blends, when you dose everything effectively cost goes up a lot. When formulating Origin we wanted every ingredient to have its own special impact on your workout without overlapping each other too significantly so you get the most bang for you buck with each.
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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Genomyx really has their values in check, it seems.
    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Thanks man we really appreciate comments like that. As athletes we wouldn't want to release anything we wouldn't want to take ourselves. We prove that by releasing non-prop blends, when you dose everything effectively cost goes up a lot. When formulating Origin we wanted every ingredient to have its own special impact on your workout without overlapping each other too significantly so you get the most bang for you buck with each.
    Thats what Im talking about right there. Theres few companies that I would be proud to say Im part of and these guys (and girls) are lucky to able to say their with Genomyx.


    *I am in no way taking any credibility away from other well deserving companies. There are some really great people backing some truly awesome products and Ive been lucky enough to talk to many of them and learn a lot from them. Its always nice to see reps/employees who dont think about the $$ first and genuinely want to help people live up to their full potential.
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    Whoa whoa whoa you did 30mins on the stepmill!?!? Who the hell was next to you to motivate you like that lol.

    And I think what that birdie might of said is he was supposed to work his regular hours : )

    Great log tho, always a fan of Genomyx.

    Actually thinking of snagging a tub of Origin myself to try out. Seen some sales that are hard to pass up.
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    Originally Posted by Swedeheart View Post
    Whoa whoa whoa you did 30mins on the stepmill!?!? Who the hell was next to you to motivate you like that lol.

    And I think what that birdie might of said is he was supposed to work his regular hours : )

    Great log tho, always a fan of Genomyx.

    Actually thinking of snagging a tub of Origin myself to try out. Seen some sales that are hard to pass up.
    That's not what's important lol. I sweat and so did she hahaha. Srsly though, that was my first stepmill experience. Definitely a great workout.

    You definitely should get some Origin dude. I know you're preference of pres is pretty much the same as mine and I really think you'll be very pleased with its effects.
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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    That's not what's important lol. I sweat and so did she hahaha. Srsly though, that was my first stepmill experience. Definitely a great workout.

    You definitely should get some Origin dude. I know you're preference of pres is pretty much the same as mine and I really think you'll be very pleased with its effects.
    Lol. Yeah nothing better than a hot sweaty chick to motivate ya.

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    Originally Posted by Sawa3 View Post
    Lol. Yeah nothing better than a hot sweaty chick to motivate ya.

    Yes origin rocks. A must buy.
    Hey, whatever it takes to get my as$ on the cardio machines... Im very thankful to not need too much cardio to stay lean. But lean or not, theres a lot of high BP and cholesterol that runs in my family so the cardio is still very valuable to me. Getting me to do it though is another story.
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    2 scoops Origin, 1 scoop Hemovol. Chest/Bis tonight.


    This is the first free few minutes I have a tonight, very busy, tiring day. Origin got it done!! Got my last meal in about 40 minutes ago. Heading to bed now for some much needed anabolic sleep. Hopefully in the morning, I get up when my alarm goes off instead of when Im supposed to be getting on the highway to go to work... Got anything to help with that, Genomyx??
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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Hey, whatever it takes to get my as$ on the cardio machines... Im very thankful to not need too much cardio to stay lean. But lean or not, theres a lot of high BP and cholesterol that runs in my family so the cardio is still very valuable to me. Getting me to do it though is another story.
    You said it. The health benefit to cardio is key and what ever gets ya through it works.
    As for getting moving I feel ya. Don't wanna get up this morning!
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    Originally Posted by Swedeheart View Post
    Whoa whoa whoa you did 30mins on the stepmill!?!? Who the hell was next to you to motivate you like that lol.

    And I think what that birdie might of said is he was supposed to work his regular hours : )

    Great log tho, always a fan of Genomyx.

    Actually thinking of snagging a tub of Origin myself to try out. Seen some sales that are hard to pass up.
    Hard to pass up when you can find it for $22 right now :shocked:

    Those stepmills are a killer too. I love to do cardio on them, but for like 10minutes at a time.

    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    2 scoops Origin, 1 scoop Hemovol. Chest/Bis tonight.


    This is the first free few minutes I have a tonight, very busy, tiring day. Origin got it done!! Got my last meal in about 40 minutes ago. Heading to bed now for some much needed anabolic sleep. Hopefully in the morning, I get up when my alarm goes off instead of when Im supposed to be getting on the highway to go to work... Got anything to help with that, Genomyx??
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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Swam competitively for roughly 15 years, never doing cardio again... lol
    Nice lol. Thats the spirit!


    Going to post up my update from last night when I get home from work. Tonight Ive got back/tris scheduled. Really looking forward to getting in there and tearin it up! Ive had zero negative feelings thus far with my blood pressure. Even though Im pretty stim tolerant, they seem to (sometimes) get my heart racing more than the energy. This is the opposite with Origin. Tons of energy/stamina/focus, no racing hear or jitters or crashing.
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    Last night - chest/bis.

    Havent seen my dad in a little while and since he didnt have to work last night I took the chance to go visit with him at my parents house. I have a home gym that we put together there so I was still about to get a solid workout in. Last night I was lifting the same weights I was struggling with last time, with much more ease, and for extra reps.

    Incline BB Bench
    135x15
    155x15
    185x12
    185x12
    205x10
    205x8; dropset 185x5

    Flat DB Press
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    75x12
    85x10
    85x10
    85x10 chest is feeling much better so Im starting to go a bit deeper and try to stretch the muscle a little more.

    DB Flys (I know, Mike. But my chest workouts are limited in a home gym, when Im so used to the HS machines.)
    40 for 4 sets.

    Seated Alt DB Curls
    40x12
    40x12
    45x9
    45x10

    Superset Hammer Curls & Reverse grip Bicep Bar Curls (weight doesnt include the bar because I dont remember what my bar weights)
    60x12 50 (Two .25s)x15
    60x11 50x12
    65x9 70x9

    Reg. Grip Bicep Bar Curls
    70x10 (5 wider grip, 5 narrow grip)
    70x10
    70x10

    Biggest pump Ive had in a long time. New arm veins were making appearances, those freaky little ones that zigzag up your arms lol. Drank a lot of water yesterday, 2 scoops of Origin (together, not split up this time) and 1 heaping scoop of Hemovol. I think my next shoulder or chest day Im going to include some Protocol just for the fun of it and see what it can do lol. Got some of the new Protocol in the mail right now. I was also able to squeeze out extra reps last night. Where I thought I had maybe one left, I ended up getting 2. A big big plus in the pwo department. I havent changed my diet or training, the only thing different is that Ive incorporated Origin in to my supplementation. One good thing about a diet, you know what you eat day to day and you know if it changes at all, rather than just eating whatever, whenever and losing track one what you're taking in.

    I would like to comment on one thing though... I have yet to put Origin in a shaker. Ive been going two scoops in a glass of water and mixing with a spoon. Its mixability is comparable to few. Im just about finished with my glass of Origin right now and theres nothing left on the bottom.

    Also... If anyone has Origin + Lemon Drop Hemovol + Raspberry RecoverPro.... 2 scoops Origin, 1 scoop hemovol, ~2/3-1scoop of RecoverPro... AMAZINGGG!!!! I dont know why I didnt think of this before but Im doing it tomorrow too haha. Its blowing my mind how versatile Origin is. Ive mixed it with water, juice, other supplements and every time its not even close to the flavor of Origin by itself. Just a little idea for those who might get sick of the flavor after a while. Might be good to know until theres a new flavor out!

    Gym closes in an hour! Looks like its gonna be a HIT Back night Yeaaa Buddy!
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    Originally Posted by Tyler44 View Post
    Hard to pass up when you can find it for $22 right now :shocked:

    Those stepmills are a killer too. I love to do cardio on them, but for like 10minutes at a time.
    Yea no kidding, def gonna grab a bottle. Im loyal to my company, but always willing to try others esp for respectable companies.

    This past summer I was doing 40-45 minutes daily on the stepmill. Used to be a kid on prep at my gym doing 2 full hours on them, 1 hr for 2 sessions daily!

    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Swam competitively for roughly 15 years, never doing cardio again... lol
    I can swim like 10 ft then im gassed out.

    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Last night - chest/bis.


    DB Flys (I know, Mike. But my chest workouts are limited in a home gym, when Im so used to the HS machines.)
    40 for 4 sets.
    Don't listen to PLers they just move heavy things, we like to look pretty : )
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    That sounds like an epic pre-workout cocktail! You're strong for your weight too, nice lifts man
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    Originally Posted by Swedeheart View Post
    Yea no kidding, def gonna grab a bottle. Im loyal to my company, but always willing to try others esp for respectable companies.

    This past summer I was doing 40-45 minutes daily on the stepmill. Used to be a kid on prep at my gym doing 2 full hours on them, 1 hr for 2 sessions daily!



    I can swim like 10 ft then im gassed out.



    Don't listen to PLers they just move heavy things, we like to look pretty : )
    Jeff I remember bangin out a full session in the gym together and then youd get on the stepmill for 45. And that was a leg session. I would leave lol.

    And whats better than looking pretty? Looking pretty while moving heavy things. Errbody wanna be a bodybuildah. But dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight! I do it though!

    Originally Posted by The Big Sleep View Post
    That sounds like an epic pre-workout cocktail! You're strong for your weight too, nice lifts man
    Dude it was an epic pre! Id go so far as to mail you the supplies to mix up said cocktail (srs). I feel that its that important you experience this. And thanks man... now that I see how Origin can help you bust out those 1 or 2 extra reps that would have otherwise been failed attempts (like all pwos claim to do but many come up short), Ill probably be logging my sessions here as well. Or at the least put up the best lifts of the day.

    I made today my off day to spend some time with the lady as we work opposite shift most days, and shes finally kicked this killer cold going around. Got some low intensity cardio done walking around at the Wrentham Outlets though. Always a good idea to take your girl shopping to waste her xmas money (I wasted mine too). Tomorrow morning we're going in and Im hitting legs. Probably first thing AM so I might be trying Origin's effects on an empty stomach. Could be great, could be the sh*ts.
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    Originally Posted by Swedeheart View Post
    I can swim like 10 ft then im gassed out.
    Lol the irony was that when I could swim for hours I couldn't run for more than a few minutes without being completely exhausted. I'm assuming I suck at both now since I only lift

    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Probably first thing AM so I might be trying Origin's effects on an empty stomach. Could be great, could be the sh*ts.
    To quote Mike this **** hits like Ray Lewis when it's taken on an fasted gut. I typically only train fasted myself but for those who typically train on a full gut will likely be surprised by the acute effects when it's taken on empty
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    Hit legs today. Didnt make it in as early as I had hoped so I had to push training back to the afternoon. Needless to say, I didnt take Origin on an empty stomach. I DID try the 3 scoops though and I did end up doing walking lunges (which I typically say "hell no" to). I dont want to jump to quick conclusions yet and say I didnt like it at 3 scoops though, but no so good. I dont know if it was the Origin but I got weird effects from it today. I had energy and motivation to train, but yet I still found myself sitting around and actually had a shortness of breath for most of my workout. I actually felt a little winded at times. It was a very weird effect that Ive only felt before when Im totally stimmed out. Im going to try it out again tomorrow when I hit shoulders/arms and see how things feel then. Perhaps Im a "cheap drunk"! Not a bad thing I suppose. Im just really surprised to have effects like that considering Im always very stim tolerant. Before Origin though, it was about a month since taking a pre.

    Nothing spectacular to note about todays workout. HS Leg presses were being hogged by dudes where earrings and cologne to the gym... So i tried out the cybex leg press. Not sure how anyone uses that thing. Its not my gusta. Did some leg curls/extensions and included work with my elitefts mini bands for some nice muscle contractions. Those bands, btw, are an amazing investment. Really allows you to work not only on a particular lift, but helps you work out particular points of the lifts (top half, bottom half).

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    Got a new avatar up... Must be my camera because I swear my back looks like Dodges
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    Yeah, you were over-stimulated. Sounds like 2 scoops is in your wheelhouse... Some of us have already graduated to 4 scoops.
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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Hit legs today. Didnt make it in as early as I had hoped so I had to push training back to the afternoon. Needless to say, I didnt take Origin on an empty stomach. I DID try the 3 scoops though and I did end up doing walking lunges (which I typically say "hell no" to). I dont want to jump to quick conclusions yet and say I didnt like it at 3 scoops though, but no so good. I dont know if it was the Origin but I got weird effects from it today. I had energy and motivation to train, but yet I still found myself sitting around and actually had a shortness of breath for most of my workout. I actually felt a little winded at times. It was a very weird effect that Ive only felt before when Im totally stimmed out. Im going to try it out again tomorrow when I hit shoulders/arms and see how things feel then. Perhaps Im a "cheap drunk"! Not a bad thing I suppose. Im just really surprised to have effects like that considering Im always very stim tolerant. Before Origin though, it was about a month since taking a pre.
    Definitely likely over stimulated, especially since you had a large break between stims

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    HS Leg presses were being hogged by dudes where earrings and cologne to the gym...
    Nothing more obnoxious than when someone wreaks of 8th grade deodorant spray, I prefer my gym to smell like sweat and tears
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    Yeah, you were over-stimulated. Sounds like 2 scoops is in your wheelhouse... Some of us have already graduated to 4 scoops.
    For those of us not in bear-mode 2-3 are muy bueno
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    Originally Posted by _Smitty_ View Post
    Yeah, you were over-stimulated. Sounds like 2 scoops is in your wheelhouse... Some of us have already graduated to 4 scoops.
    Yea I figured that was the case. Ive only felt like that once before when I took too much c4. Could be worst! Could be stim-dick (thank you 1,3).

    I think I need to add a cup of coffee with it lol
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    Rocked this tonight!

    Hit shoulders tonight. EPIIIC!! 2.5 scoops Origin. Just to break the 2 scoop barrier but ease in to the larger stim dose. It was a hyper day and I was supposed to be doing shoulders/arms. It turned in to a slaughter session for just shoulders.

    The fatigue was nicely taken care of. My recovery time in between sets was surprisingly fast, even at the end of the workouts. Movements that had 3 sets scheduled, I did 4 or 5. 4 scheduled sets I did 5 or 6. Pump was intense, vascularity was noticeably more. Focus was the best it has been thus far! Honestly, today was everything I had hoped Origin would be. It turned the volume way up today.

    Workout was as follows
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    Seated Military press
    2 sets @ 175x 12/12
    2 sets @ 185x 11/9
    1 set @ 195x 7
    dropset 175x 8

    Cybex Lat Raise Machine
    70x15
    70x15
    90x14
    90x13
    90x13/80x11/70x9

    Superset Front Cable Raise w/ Rear Delt 1-arm flies
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    3 tri sets FR @ 90, RD 50, Rear pec dec 60

    Standing 1-arm Dumbbell shoulder press -- Mike, these are those killer som' b!tches we did at EC

    50x8
    40x9
    40x9
    40x10

    Seated DB Lat Raise
    30x12
    30x12
    Standing DB LR
    30x17
    30x18

    DB Shrugs
    90x14
    100x12
    100x12
    110x10
    115x9




    .....I could have kept going, and wanted to, but I was getting hungry


    Feeling pretty battered now, Gonna rest up and eat eat eat tomorrow! Gotta get arms done tomorrow.

    Until next time.

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    Update: No update for today. Worked late, didnt make it to the gym tonight. Gonna take the night to rest a bit. Was feeling a little something coming on - congestion and whatnot. Got a shipment in today with a bottle of Gut Health in it. Gonna mega dose that for a couple days and try to fend off any oncoming illnesses. Back at tomorrow with an upper power day.
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