I agree, esp., as guy in review says, it can be broken in two pieces. Rack attachment still gonna take a lot of space when detached not much savings versus full size thing but more hassle for sure, bet that thing weighs a ton, so attaching and detaching it is not a picnic, unless you just attach it once an leave it there.
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Thread: What is the most compact GHD?
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12-28-2012, 09:52 AM #31
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12-28-2012, 10:15 AM #32
The crossfit crew does make it more popular, but I think most of them use it for GHD sit up (just sit up with extended ROM and extra momentum). When they used the GHDs at the crossfit games, that's all they used them for. Glute ham raises aren't really their thing. I think the movement is promoted by strength coaches and powerlifters more than crossfitters. The natural glute ham raises are difficult, but the ones done with an actual GHD aren't that bad. Actually, my lower back feels worse after leg curls than glute ham raises. And the leg curls weren't even that heavy. I must have done them wrong
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12-28-2012, 10:35 AM #33
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12-28-2012, 10:58 AM #34
Weirdly enough, more than the ham and glute workout, I've found GHRs and Reverse Hyper machines to have a surprisingly corrective and curative effect on long lingering lower back issues/pain. Though I don't know if that has to do with the exercise or the specifics of my injury.
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12-28-2012, 10:59 AM #35
Yeah but I think what eventually sold me on not needing one was when I saw Jim Wendler's gym. He came from being deeeep in the Westside and EliteFTS world and still doesn't have a glute ham. When I asked him what he does for hamstring/lowback stuff now he said RDLs and good mornings.
+1 to the Crossfit GHD situp shennanigans. I can't believe how much they hype up Glute Ham benches when they don't ever use it for actual GHRs.BW: 247
Squat: 550
Deadlift: 601
Bench: 381 w/pause
Press: 275
Front Squat: 405
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12-28-2012, 11:02 AM #36
A GHR works the low back big time as well, especially if you go all the way down and do a back raise at the bottom. Reverse Hyper's are designed specifically for training the low back without stressing the spine, so it should be no surprise that you got some benefit from that.
I still think GHRs are super overrated pieces of equipment though. I'd rather buy a Roman Chair for $50 on Craigslist just for back extensions, I don't need more than that personally. I've never found that training the hamstring from the distal (knee) end has benefited my deadlift, so I've always trained them from the proximal end with RDLs. Much more carryover for me as a powerlifter.BW: 247
Squat: 550
Deadlift: 601
Bench: 381 w/pause
Press: 275
Front Squat: 405
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12-28-2012, 11:05 AM #37
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To each his own, im gonna get one in the summer time. Another benefit to using the GHR is (so i have read and been told by some PLers) is you can do ghrs every day for reps (if your strong enough) and never feel sore/beatup from them. If you try that w/ RDLs or Gmornings you will be sore.
No way im strong enough to do reps (gonna start w/ OBB home ghr) and work some negatives till i am stronger to do some for reps. plus i dont have enough room for a full size GHR right now.
your post above this says you get more carryover from RDLs, what set/rep range do you use? ThanksIt surprises me how many people refuse to buy equipment from Elitefts because its too expensive but they will buy equipment from their competitors, then continue to go on EFS website to educate themselves for FREE
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12-28-2012, 11:12 AM #38
This is probably true once you get acclimated to them. I've never done them as part of a consistent schedule, just for a couple workouts here and there when I've had access to them but GHRs always made me incredibly sore. RDLs not so much, but that's probably because I do them all the time.
your post above this says you get more carryover from RDLs, what set/rep range do you use? Thanks
Sorry to the OP for getting so off-topic!BW: 247
Squat: 550
Deadlift: 601
Bench: 381 w/pause
Press: 275
Front Squat: 405
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12-28-2012, 11:31 AM #39
Soviets invented it, can't be good.
Generations of weight and powerlifters were raised w/o that piece of equipment, it's just another tool, that's it. I personally found it quite useful and to back up other poster's comment believe it helped me speed up by lower back recovery and strengthening, also adds nice variety to assistance work, for the usefulness I would rate it about as lat tower, sure one can live w/o it but sometimes it's nice to have.
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12-29-2012, 11:24 AM #40
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12-29-2012, 11:34 AM #41
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I'm not sure I can explain the hype in general other than that for me at least, the exercise FEELS just about perfect. And I can make my hamstrings nice and sore on it. Hard to know how well that translates into muscle gains, of course. And it's not the kind of thing I can recommend unless you have budget and space. But then, that's where this thread comes in - a compact GHD saves space and budget.
And while natural GHRs are hard (I can only do them with significant band assistance), I don't consider GHD GHRs to be all that hard. If you're in shape (as you clearly are) and are struggling, it might be a form or machine adjustment issue, or maybe it's just that it's a new machine that your body isn't used to yet. I don't consider myself to be very strong, plus I'm fat and lifting up all that extra weight, and I don't have a problem cranking out a set of 15 or 20 if I keep my arms at my sides. Hands behind my head I've yet to complete 10. Failed on the tenth a couple days ago. And where you place the foot plate makes a huge difference. With the foot plate a single slot back from where I keep it now, I can crank out a bunch of them with a 45 pound plate held to my chest, which only means that that's too far back for me now. And I think it was one slot forward from where I am now where I hurt myself when I first bought the thing, so now I'm scared to bring it forward any further.Last edited by Maluket; 12-29-2012 at 11:39 AM.
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