It surprises me how many people refuse to buy equipment from Elitefts because its too expensive but they will buy equipment from their competitors, then continue to go on EFS website regulary to educate themselves for FREE
It surprises me how many people refuse to buy equipment from Elitefts because its too expensive but they will buy equipment from their competitors, then continue to go on EFS website regulary to educate themselves for FREE
It surprises me how many people refuse to buy equipment from Elitefts because its too expensive but they will buy equipment from their competitors, then continue to go on EFS website regulary to educate themselves for FREE
so is the new thing now natural glute ham raises? seems to be the trend with these types of machines and Westside coming out the inverse curl machine and touting it as better than a ghd...or am i misunderstanding?
Don't know much about them but have been considering this for the last week or so.
But this will let you do only "Natural GHR" aka "Russian Leg Curl". You don't need fancy equipment to do them.
Before getting real GHR I was doing them on regular bench with feet under lat tower leg hold down. It only works hams eccentrically, not much of a glutes and lower back involvement and was quite hard on knees. You need rounded pad to do the movement right, Orlando GHR is the one that looks like up to the job.
Interesting one. Looks like it could be stored vertically to save a bit of space like the Orlando Barbell floor GHD. Looks like it would be a bit better if it had the additional set of foot rollers and a plate instead of foot bar.
But this will let you do only "Natural GHR" aka "Russian Leg Curl". You don't need fancy equipment to do them.
Before getting real GHR I was doing them on regular bench with feet under lat tower leg hold down. It only works hams eccentrically, not much of a glutes and lower back involvement and was quite hard on knees. You need rounded pad to do the movement right, Orlando GHR is the one that looks like up to the job.
Makes sense. I just hold off until I know more about these things. I'm just looking for new accessory stuff. So of I buy one with a rounded pad, I'm assuming that you can't do a "Natural GHR"? The reason I ask is that one movement might be more beneficial for my purposes than the other.
Interesting one. Looks like it could be stored vertically to save a bit of space like the Orlando Barbell floor GHD. Looks like it would be a bit better if it had the additional set of foot rollers and a plate instead of foot bar.
Im sure rick from edgefitness can customize it for a small fee to fit your needs.
The OBB floor ghr looks like it takes up less room, but the edge fitness ghr looks it can work w/ bands (loop bands under feet where the kettle bell is) and the edge fitness doenst need to be weighted down like the OBB.
Over all i would go w/ the OBB, but thats just me. I heard some guy say if you want to do back raises he just puts it on a bench and says it works.
It surprises me how many people refuse to buy equipment from Elitefts because its too expensive but they will buy equipment from their competitors, then continue to go on EFS website regulary to educate themselves for FREE
Im sure rick from edgefitness can customize it for a small fee to fit your needs.
The OBB floor ghr looks like it takes up less room, but the edge fitness ghr looks it can work w/ bands (loop bands under feet where the kettle bell is) and the edge fitness doenst need to be weighted down like the OBB.
Over all i would go w/ the OBB, but thats just me. I heard some guy say if you want to do back raises he just puts it on a bench and says it works.
Williams and EliteFTS version is more but similar in price to the Edge. The advantage over the Orlando BB is likely heft (doesnt need weighing down) and can be ordered in custom colors and vinyl.
Looking at Legend options, the Varsity GHD 7003 is only 113lbs, and has a 20" x 63" footprint so by GHD standards its relatively compact (light and narrow). It looks like it's also in the $500 range and ships cheaper due to bolted configuration.
Compared to heavier 200lb GHD its narrow width and light weight may make it easy to store next to a bench in the rack. I can't seem to find any reviews on it though.
Im sure rick from edgefitness can customize it for a small fee to fit your needs.
The OBB floor ghr looks like it takes up less room, but the edge fitness ghr looks it can work w/ bands (loop bands under feet where the kettle bell is) and the edge fitness doenst need to be weighted down like the OBB.
Over all i would go w/ the OBB, but thats just me. I heard some guy say if you want to do back raises he just puts it on a bench and says it works.
It's better than Orlando (spare foot bar but I am sure that can be fixed), but if you look at the footprint you do not save that much space versus going full size GHR.
There are also GHR rack attachments available from some fabricators that might work if you are space constrained. Just another idea. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...2639581&page=1
Williams and EliteFTS version is more but similar in price to the Edge. The advantage over the Orlando BB is likely heft (doesnt need weighing down) and can be ordered in custom colors and vinyl.
OBB has the split pad (i have never used a GHR so i dont have preference) however many people say go w/ split pad if you have an option. The elitefts home ghr you posted doesnt have a tilted pad like the OBB (never understood why it doesnt cuz dave tate has said multiple times "if the ghr doesnt have a tilted pad, dont buy it" paraphrasing of course, but he has said something similar multiple times.
It surprises me how many people refuse to buy equipment from Elitefts because its too expensive but they will buy equipment from their competitors, then continue to go on EFS website regulary to educate themselves for FREE
OBB has the split pad (i have never used a GHR so i dont have preference) however many people say go w/ split pad if you have an option. The elitefts home ghr you posted doesnt have a tilted pad like the OBB (never understood why the it doesnt cuz dave tate has said multiple times "if the ghr doesnt have a tilted pad, dont buy it" paraphrasing of course, but he has said something similar multiple times.
Split pad gets more critical for back extensions, on floor model you wouldn't have enough room to do them.
Makes sense. I just hold off until I know more about these things. I'm just looking for new accessory stuff. So of I buy one with a rounded pad, I'm assuming that you can't do a "Natural GHR"? The reason I ask is that one movement might be more beneficial for my purposes than the other.
A proper GHD with a semi-circle pad is going to be better overall. Most people (myself included) cannot even come close to performing a single rep of a natural GHR/Russian Leg Curl/whatever. With a regular GHD you still obliterate the hamstrings but you can actually do a few reps, and it's useful for other exercises like back extensions and situps.
Lots of better things to spend that sort of money on though in my opinion... I don't think I would buy a GHD even if I won the lottery.
Split pad gets more critical for back extensions, on floor model you wouldn't have enough room to do them.
ahh gotcha.
It surprises me how many people refuse to buy equipment from Elitefts because its too expensive but they will buy equipment from their competitors, then continue to go on EFS website regulary to educate themselves for FREE
It surprises me how many people refuse to buy equipment from Elitefts because its too expensive but they will buy equipment from their competitors, then continue to go on EFS website regulary to educate themselves for FREE
It's better than Orlando (spare foot bar but I am sure that can be fixed), but if you look at the footprint you do not save that much space versus going full size GHR.
There are also GHR rack attachments available from some fabricators that might work if you are space constrained. Just another idea. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...2639581&page=1
I am a big fan of that one. I am still unsure of my need of a GHD, but if I were to get one, that would be the one I'd want.
Having not used one yet, I don't know what I'm missing. My wife insists I buy one for my home gym. So we'll be getting one! I just don't know which yet, will probably be with whoever the manufacturer of the Power Rack ends up being to save on shipping...
Look at where Dave Tate puts his knees - they're several inches below the pad. As he comes up, he MUST drive with his toes in order to move his knees forward so that his thighs maintain contact with the pad so that he doesn't just slip down through the gap. And the more he drives with his toes, the more it helps bring him upwards. It's not a huge help, since the lever from his knees to the bottom of the pad is small, but it's some help. I have a GHD. I try to do GHRs on it like Dave Tate. Toe drive not only helps, but is required.
Now look at where Shae Miller puts his knees - they're several inches up on the pad. As he comes up, he CAN'T drive with his toes because his knees are already wedged firmly into the pad. The best thing HE can do is to wedge his ankles firmly under the top roller and pull from his heels. I'm unconvinced that the speed of his ascent has any meaning, as I can come up fast or slow at will, as can anyone with any exercise. But I'll believe what he's saying, because he's basically doing something somewhat closer to a natural GHR, and when I do natural GHRs (with band assistance), I hook my ankles under the roller and pull from my heels with no toe drive at all.
Two different exercises. Similar, yes. But different.
looks like a rack mounted ghd is the most compact. i'd still prefer a stand alone one. remember the phrase, jack of all trades, master of none
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A proper GHD with a semi-circle pad is going to be better overall. Most people (myself included) cannot even come close to performing a single rep of a natural GHR/Russian Leg Curl/whatever. With a regular GHD you still obliterate the hamstrings but you can actually do a few reps, and it's useful for other exercises like back extensions and situps.
Lots of better things to spend that sort of money on though in my opinion... I don't think I would buy a GHD even if I won the lottery.
Same with me, I dont understand the hype with these things. I've had access to them but never wanted one. I've tried them and I have a hell of a hard time even performing 1 controlled rep so its not a very enjoyable workout. The crossfit crew blew these things up, probably because they are extremely difficult to do... which makes sense since the Crossfit workouts are known to be difficult in general. I will stick with my leg curl and back extension machines for now.
My home gym: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=147414033
Same with me, I dont understand the hype with these things. I've had access to them but never wanted one. I've tried them and I have a hell of a hard time even performing 1 controlled rep so its not a very enjoyable workout. The crossfit crew blew these things up, probably because they are extremely difficult to do... which makes sense since the Crossfit workouts are known to be difficult in general. I will stick with my leg curl and back extension machines for now.
I don't follow too closely but do pro BBs even use these machines?
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