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    you're affraid, why? I'm more curious at this point more than anything.
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    you're affraid, why? I'm more curious at this point more than anything.
    I am scared...will you hold me?
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    Originally Posted by lnvictus View Post
    Hey adlerian. Just thought I should post in your thread, bumping it, and also because I might delete my thread because it's not something I want to leave behind here. Since your thread is Q&A I think it'd be better. And not pm'ing you because maybe it'll help someone here itt.

    Your quote with my response below in bold:
    Being depressed because of cash problems and career issues is NOTHING to be ashamed of, at all.

    In the year 2000, I got very depressed hearing all the murder and **** stories at the prison I strongly considered going into IT to escape. And, IT pays a lot more than psych, so it was very tempting. I'm a very stoic person most of the time but even a strong person can get beaten up a bit.

    There's nothing shameful about being confused at a crossroads.
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    My initial plan was med school. I've never thought about a career in psychology. I chose psychology because:
    a) I never felt 'normal', or felt that I fit in with others and wanted to know why.
    b) I wanted to know if I could somehow 'fix' this, become normal and happy.

    Normal to me means being uninhibited, and confident, a person with purpose and concrete goals and the determination to achieve them.

    If I want to do anything in the psych field, it'd be to work with autistic individuals, drug abusers, as a case worker, etc. But I do not feel I have the necessary social skills to pull them off. I haven't tried so don't know if I'd be good at it.
    In this thread I've suggested reading Albert Ellis a million times and you should do it. You can learn tons about psych from reading certain books and help yourself in the process.

    Meanwhile, I have met a HOST of odd people working in psych and you need to cut yourself a break. One dude I used to work with would bring up penises and gay sex in EVERY, and I mean every staff meeting, no matter what it was about. Another dude told me his BABY was out to get him, hit him with a rattle, and that's why he needed a divorce. A female therapist I worked with for sex offenders wanted to prohibit the clients from saying "dirty words" when discussing sex.

    I've spent most of my career hiding in my office.

    My first real job was working with autistic adults and it changed how I look at life, so it may be worth trying out. It will also train you to have the patience of the gods.

    I have looked over the programming materials and they look manageable. Do I want to be a programmer? Why not? I'm very vision driven and programming is about creativity and vision..and a lot of patience. Now logical thinking is what worries me as it's my weak point, and also the patience factor.


    And will do. I might as well improve what I can, and that's my health. That's within my control now.
    Patience!

    I noodled around with C++ and it's interesting. Computers are extremely interesting and will never end until they invent artificial brains, which isn't going to be soon.

    A guy I know travels around fixing voting machines, another is a routing expert, via Cisco, and I've known animation people, so there's lots to do.

    I think you need to seriously meditate on who you are though. You liked medicine and were interested in psych and those are VERY people, adventure oriented activities. Computers are more solitary and technical, although creativity is there, so you need to decide who you are really are. Like, not just the "depressed" you but the you that's "On", what does he need.
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    why should anyone care what this guy thinks?
    Why not?

    If people like what I say, then they do, and that is all.

    Nothing to get excited about.
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    Originally Posted by TheAdlerian View Post
    I am scared...will you hold me?
    This is a thread about people asking you questions and you answer them, I have asked you a legitimate question, yet you refuse to answer. Please explain to me why a SOCIAL WORKER is pretending to be a PSYCHOLOGIST?
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    Originally Posted by VeryMiscular View Post
    This is a thread about people asking you questions and you answer them, I have asked you a legitimate question, yet you refuse to answer. Please explain to me why a SOCIAL WORKER is pretending to be a PSYCHOLOGIST?
    Sorry, bro, we've been well over this territory.

    Come up with something creative to contribute. This is one of my main hobbies while watching TV; try to be understanding of my needs.
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    What do you recommend to someone looking for a spiritual path but has no idea where to start? Other than knowing it is not in a Christian church.
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    Originally Posted by lnvictus View Post
    How do I figure myself out? Any books I can read about this?
    Not to be corny, but you have to go sit by a lake, have a beer, or whatever where you sit and think, reflecting on what you like, asking questions, and so on. You need to imagine the future and compare it your past. What do you want to change?

    It's like watching a movie by yourself versus with friends or your family. When you watch it quietly you have a real impression of the film and have your opinion. When you watch it with friends and family you might be distracted by them or hide your real opinion.

    Sit quietly and review your life and opinions.

    The only exposure I had with Ellis was maybe in a psych book where his theories were reduced to half a page. Any particular book of his you recommend?
    A Guide to Rational Living, is the one I suggest the most. He has a lot of similar self-help books though.

    Wow that's weird what you described about those people. Makes me feel better, and perversely so.
    I was thinking about behavioral tech (program title: behavioral science technology) but not sure what I could do with this. Do you have any idea about this?
    I have no idea what that means, tell us.

    I'm reminded of Scientology.

    Also, thanks for your help and input.
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    I was bro, as an employee!

    It felt much the same as being an inmate though. Thankfully, I never had to butter myself up for any fights like Bronson did, but I would have.

    My photo was inspired by what I saw in the gym mirror as I did shoulders.
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    What do you recommend to someone looking for a spiritual path but has no idea where to start? Other than knowing it is not in a Christian church.
    I'd read:

    1. The teachings of the Buddha

    2. The Tao

    3. Zen Buddhism

    4. Look into what the Morphic Field is.

    I suggest the first three because they're Earthly philosophies that will give you suggestions about living instead of death cult stuff.
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    Originally Posted by TheAdlerian View Post
    I'd read:

    1. The teachings of the Buddha

    2. The Tao

    3. Zen Buddhism

    4. Look into what the Morphic Field is.

    I suggest the first three because they're Earthly philosophies that will give you suggestions about living instead of death cult stuff.
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    No idea about what- what means? The comment about weird people? It's just makes me feel okay that if weird people can make it that far, I can too with my social handicap.



    Really, the program title reminds you of Scientology? Why?
    Here's the description from their calendar:


    I guess what I wanted to know is is this program worth it and can I find a job with this? Asking you since you're probably worked with someone who went through similar program.
    Sorry, I was confused by "behavioral science technology" because I didn't understand what "technology" meant. I was joking about Scientology because they use the word "technology" in a funny kind of way sometimes.

    The description you provided sounds pretty interesting. I love Behaviorism and there's tons of applications for it.

    Regarding autism and mentally retarded people, you'll be learning how to, hopefully, shape their behavior through fairly simple Behavioral strategies. You should look at the coursework and reading materials to see if it looks interesting to you.
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    I know you're not a psychiatrist but what would you recommend someone with generalized anxiety disorder and insomnia do re meds or type of therapy?
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    do you meditate? How often and for how long?
    I do and I don't.

    I see meditation as turning off your surface thoughts and taking a break from it all.

    I've read about the mystical kind and the technical. For instance, the technical saying sit quietly and count to seven repeatedly.

    Okay, I've tried that and I find it boring. However, when I'm in the gym lifting, my mind shuts off because I'm focusing on the heavy lifts, counting, and nothing else is going on, it's like I'm in a time warp. The same goes for biking, but there's the occasional curse and hatred for the various drivers trying to kill me, but generally speaking, it's meditative. Going for a walk is similar.

    Close seconds are, creative writing and painting.

    My main meditative state is found in lifting though and I do that for an hour and half to two hours.

    It's good to have something like it in life to avoid anxiety and built up anger. But, I'm glad I'm not being corny about it sitting in a toga praying to the universe. I feel cooler and more functional using exercise as my technique, but everyone is different.
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    I know you're not a psychiatrist but what would you recommend someone with generalized anxiety disorder and insomnia do re meds or type of therapy?
    That's a pretty big question, and I'm not sure what you mean by "re meds".

    Usually, people get that diagnosis when no one, including them, can figure out why they're anxious. Some people call it, Free Floating Anxiety, because it floats around from situation to situation. The opposite would be anxiety about a certain thing like travel, social situations, etc.

    Many times, doctors will suggest meds because talk therapy does nothing because the client doesn't know what to talk about. But, there's plenty of Behavioral and other therapies that will try, try, try to figure it out.

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    Adlerian, what led you to this website to the misc in the first place? Were actually interesting in lifting advice and wondered in to the misc?
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    Adlerian, what led you to this website to the misc in the first place? Were actually interesting in lifting advice and wondered in to the misc?
    I've been lifting for 28 years and have been looking at the site practically since it began. I started posting when I became interested in supps again. Then, I got into the politics section, but it's hard to have a convo there because people just repeat the same stuff, but the misc is far more open minded.

    I've been on the net for a LONG time, and this is the best board. BB.com is also a super resource, in general.
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    let me know when you copy over our pm's to here, so we can talk about:
    1) how you're a dumbass for being detected on misc - seeing how you're a "psychotherapist"
    2) why you're a social worker pretending to be a psychologist
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    You seriously should not be so stupid. You have been detectived and as a practicing psychotherapist, you should know better.
    Stop being ridiculous.
    SRS - Is your name David something? Cause if it is, you've been detectived by misc detectives. Reading what you have to say and what the practice of the individual that is said to be you is 100% the same. I am not sure if you care or not, I would, since somebody went through the trouble to find you.
    Another Dude was trying to say my name is David Riesling, and he got pera-banned for suggesting it. It's one of the prime rules of the board.

    I'm good friends with a mod, so if you'd like me to forward your PM to him, I'd be happy to do so.

    Meanwhile, My name is NOT Riesling, it's Dave Merlot.
    I know what your real name is bro, no need to play dumb... No I won't forward the pm cause I'm not a snitch. The only reason I am pm'ing you is because this is an example of you dun goofing and you really shouldn't be this stupid if you have a private practice (or in any setting to be honest).

    That is if you do not want your clients to know your life story, which you seem to love to share on here.
    You're full of **** bro.

    Take your fantasy life elsewhere.
    Yeah I don't think so... I'm assuming you want me to say your name so you show your mod friend and get me banned. Well I was doing my ethical responsibility to speak with a colleague in the field of a potential boundary issue... Instead as usual, you're a dumbass.
    You should contact Alfred Adler via a psychic medium and report back to me.

    Tell him, Dave Merlot, said hi.
    Yet you say I live in a fantasy world... I'm going to finish our little discussion by asking you for advice. Since you are very smart and have a great thread, I have been having some pain that does not go away, I've had it for some time. I was wondering what my connections with others play into this... hehe

    Also, be careful dumbass. I think it is a little too much for somebody to have found out so much **** about your life.
    I account for your problems as a simple case of immaturity.

    Correct?
    Problem? I merely enjoying arguing and trolling people on this forum... You are one of them. I've already stated my ethical reasons for having this conversation with you. I don't care who you are, what you are, or where you are. If you think I do, then please reanalyze our relationship and the importance you believe you play in my life The only reason I told you you have been detectived was because (unfortunately) you're a mental health clinician. Other than that I could care less about anything you do.
    Also, for fun tomorrow, I'm going to consider posting all of your PMs in my thread. That should give us something exciting to talk about.

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    I've been lifting for 28 years and have been looking at the site practically since it began. I started posting when I became interested in supps again. Then, I got into the politics section, but it's hard to have a convo there because people just repeat the same stuff, but the misc is far more open minded.

    I've been on the net for a LONG time, and this is the best board. BB.com is also a super resource, in general.
    Whoa, how old are you lol?

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    What are your thoughts on creative and logical minds.
    Do you believe that a logical mind makes it hard for a mind to be creative?
    Do you believe that all people are inherently creative, but in different ways, or are there those that just outright lack creativity?
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    need cliffs cuz
    He keeps PMing me over and over like a ******* saying he knows my real name, etc and he doesn't know sh!t.
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    What are your thoughts on creative and logical minds.
    Do you believe that a logical mind makes it hard for a mind to be creative?
    Do you believe that all people are inherently creative, but in different ways, or are there those that just outright lack creativity?
    To be creative as I see it, you have to have some logic going on. For instance, if you're throwing paint at a canvas you'll get mud color if you throw the wrong color combos. So, even someone "formlessly" creative like that has to be thinking and planning. If you're writing a science fiction book about balloon aliens having a war, there's going to be logic to the whole thing. Even if it sucks, there's still going to be ideas that make sense.

    Meanwhile, there are logical people who are practical. They know how to do things in the world and make sense of it all. Such a person might be good at building a bridge or planning a dinner. Those things are creative, but I think there are practical people who aren't THAT creative.

    We are animals and animals do things that appear logical, like gathering and storing food for winter. I'm sure there's people like that, organic robots good at a narrow focus of activities. That probably has to do with IQ more than anything.
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    Choose my dear friend, and explain your choice.

    10 FAST zombies such the ones from the Dawn of the dead Remake, 28 days laters, Quarantine.

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    100 slow zombies such a s Shaun of the dead or the original Romeros.

    You have no weapons aside from a wooden bat and the playground is an empty warehouse.

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    Whoa, how old are you lol?

    And fuk yeah. Surprising how the best discussions happen to be in a bodybuilding forum lmao. Most people would assume we're all just a bunch of dumb meat heads who talk about roids and sht lol
    The great thing about BB is that most people are a lot like me, curious about a wide variety of topics. I think that's because bodybuilding/fitness is a very hopeful activity where people want to be at their height. When you're like that, you want you mind at it's height too, so you're full of questions and thoughts.

    I used to post on a philosophy board and they were much more boring, in spite of supposedly being interested in philosophy.
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    10 FAST zombies such the ones from the Dawn of the dead Remake, 28 days laters, Quarantine.

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    100 slow zombies such a s Shaun of the dead or the original Romeros.

    You have no weapons aside from a wooden bat and the playground is an empty warehouse.
    Have I had lunch, and if so, what?

    Kidding.

    Once in high school I destroyed (didn't enjoy it) seven guys who decided to jump me for fun. The trick was smacking them into each other and using the crowding of the attack against them, that and rage because one got my pants muddy! So, I'd take the 100, although the warehouse situation sounds heinous as I'm picturing it.

    Last week I was trying to move a couch down a narrow set of stairs and it got stuck. The couch was for the trash, so I decided to tear it apart and demolish it with a hammer. I reduced in to nothing in no time! I knew a guy who crushed another's skull with a wooden bat, for saying he was going slap a girl's ass. From what I understand, it didn't take much and the killer wasn't very big, so I could reduce that 100 pretty quick.

    The only problem would be watching my back. I assume there's boxes and stuff in the warehouse.

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