Do shoulders really need to be worked? I've seen guys that dont work them

[grobblepot]

I have seen someone that only does bench, squat, and deadlift, and he is huge. He is a powerlifter and lifts 1,000 pounds for each of those lifts. I met him and he has good shoulders, and he doesn't do any delt work like bodybuilders do. Btw I know benching does involve the delts, but he does not do front raises, or lateral raises, etc.

I've been worrying about my shoulders lagging so I did a shoulders workout last week and am about to go do one today. Just wanted to hear some opinions on if it's really necessary or not.

[SDFlip]

I have seen someone that only does bench, squat, and deadlift, and he is huge. He is a powerlifter and lifts 1,000 pounds for each of those lifts. I met him and he has good shoulders, and he doesn't do any delt work like bodybuilders do. Btw I know benching does involve the delts, but he does not do front raises, or lateral raises, etc.

I've been worrying about my shoulders lagging so I did a shoulders workout last week and am about to go do one today. Just wanted to hear some opinions on if it's really necessary or not.

really? 1000lbs. each lift.

[maiseu]

Same goes for anything really, your body will grow eventually, but if you really want to make remarkable progress in areas you want to target you have to dedicate as much time to shoulders as you do to anything else you train. It's my shoulder day actually today

[Retoaded]

1,000 pounds each lift. ok.

[maiseu]

1,000 pounds each lift. ok.

I'm sure op was exaggerating to paint you guys a picture, while y'all miss the point of what he was asking.

[DJAuto]

For bodybuilding, yes. You're focusing on specific portions of the musculature, so targeting let's say the lateral head is important. For powerlifting and other purposes, not so much.

[LlamaWithARifle]

You answered your own question, he's a powerlifter not a bodybuilder so his training will be different. If benching alone is enough work for his shoulders without creating a weak link then he doesn't need to do any additional shoulder work.

[ironwill2008]

I have seen someone that only does bench, squat, and deadlift, and he is huge. He is a powerlifter and lifts 1,000 pounds for each of those lifts.

I don't have any advices for you OP; I'm just ITT to express my amazement that you know someone, in-person, who's lifting almost 400 pounds more than the current three lift total world record.

[DJAuto]

I don't have any advices for you OP; I'm just ITT to express my amazement that you know someone, in-person, who's lifting almost 400 pounds more than the current three lift total world record.

lol.

[smblkolds]

I've trained them, and I've not trained them. I get problems as far as aches and joint issues if I don't train them enough these days. I do plenty of shoulder work, a movement for each head at least. Rotators too on a different day. But then again I can only manage 900 on each lift.

[Roidmonster55]

If you want it to get noticed, you should train it.

[grobblepot]

To you guys in disbelieve, his name is Scott Mendelson. YouTube it, I'm on phone right now working shoulders. This guy is huge irl.

[ironwill2008]

To you guys in disbelieve, his name is Scott Mendelson. YouTube it, I'm on phone right now working shoulders. This guy is huge irl.

And I'm talking to Ed Coan right now too.

They tell me he's lifted a few pounds in his day.

[BankWalker]

Check out the 6" ROM and the special suit. WTF is this? I've never seen any benching like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rZXgUIPgUY

[ktothewire]

Do you have drink water to live? ... okay answer is pretty simple.

I work mine out.

[BankWalker]

Maybe that was a bad camera angle. I saw another lift on youtube that looked far more impressive. Here's what Wiki has to say about the guy.

He has broken multiple world records and is currently the all-time world record holder in the raw (unassisted) bench press with 715 lb (324 kg) since 2005 as well as the raw world record holder in the 308-pound weight class with 701 lb (318 kg) since 2002 and the equipped world record holder of the 275-pound class with 1,031 lb (468 kg) since 2009.

[MuscledHorse]

It sounds like you need to decide if you want to be bodybuilder where focus is on overall development or a powerlifter where focus is on how much weight you cna bench/squat/deadlift. If you are going for the former, yes you need to develop your delts both for appearacnce/balance issues and for overall strength issues, since the vasious shoulder muscles come in to play on other exercises and not developing shoulders can hold you back elsewhere. ALso remember that everyone is different and just as there are guys who have naturally thick calf muscles and do virtually nothing to them (and I hate those guys, by the way as I am not one of them) there are people who don't have to put as much work into other body parts. Shoulders may be the muscle group that develops easily on him. You have to decide what you need to work on on you...as well as weather you want to be a bodybiulder or powerlifter.

[timberwolf]

Charles Polinquin addressed that in one of his columns. "I think it's a great idea! I don't prescribe direct delt work to most of my clients, yet they end up developing impressive delts. Recent anatomical research points out that there are seven different innervation patterns for the delts -not three (anterior, medial and posterior), as was originally believed. the shoulders will actually grow best if left alone. Aneterior innervation patterns get plenty of stimulation from chest work, and posterior innervation patterns get plenty of stimulation from back work. Therefor, most torso work is bound to involve some of the seven innervation patterns. You may, however, want to train using some shoulder abduction work (such as cable lateral raises) oncer every ten days or so."

[SDFlip]

To you guys in disbelieve, his name is Scott Mendelson. YouTube it, I'm on phone right now working shoulders. This guy is huge irl.

if you know him, why don't you ask him

[SquatTilYouDrop]

To you guys in disbelieve, his name is Scott Mendelson. YouTube it, I'm on phone right now working shoulders. This guy is huge irl.

And I'm talking to Ed Coan right now too.

They tell me he's lifted a few pounds in his day.

Strange, I'm on the phone right now with Arnold. He and Maria are coming over for cocktails later. He's almost as knowledgeable as beveans.

Charles Polinquin addressed that in one of his columns. "I think it's a great idea! I don't prescribe direct delt work to most of my clients, yet they end up developing impressive delts. Recent anatomical research points out that there are seven different innervation patterns for the delts -not three (anterior, medial and posterior), as was originally believed. the shoulders will actually grow best if left alone. Aneterior innervation patterns get plenty of stimulation from chest work, and posterior innervation patterns get plenty of stimulation from back work. Therefor, most torso work is bound to involve some of the seven innervation patterns. You may, however, want to train using some shoulder abduction work (such as cable lateral raises) oncer every ten days or so."

Excellent post.