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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    Agree, people try to micro analyse things and look at the short term effects. Sure, in that part of the day you might be running on fat for fuel, but that doesn't change overall energy balance.
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    Sure, in that part of the day you might be running on fat for fuel, but that doesn't change overall energy balance.
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    but that doesn't change overall energy balance.
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    overall energy balance.
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    overall energy balance.

























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    overall energy balance.
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    Originally Posted by wutang9o View Post
    Train fasted but eat too many calories = get fat.

    Train with food in your belly but remain under deficit = lose fat.

    Train fasted = Intensity of session might suffer

    Train with food = Intensity of session might improve or suffer (depending on how soon you exercise after eating).

    Swings and roundabouts really..
    Right.

    What I wrote previously, it was assumed that one was already in a deficit.
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    Originally Posted by wutang9o View Post
    Might be your electrolyte balance which can lead to the "brain fogginess".

    Sodium = just sprinkle salt liberally on your food.
    Potassium = You can buy half n half salt (not sure what the equivalent is called in the U.S)
    Magnesium = You'll need to get in supplement form .

    Think my water weight loss is coming to an end.. !
    Could be that. I already have all that, the half and half, and I have a ZMA supplement. Just haven't taken it in awhile.

    Going from junk food to this extreme of a diet always does a number, both mentally and physically.

    The worst part I hate the most is the mood swings.

    I can deal with physical discomfort, hunger without too much problem.

    What kills me is being happy one moment and then being completely under the weather the next for no apparent reason.

    This is the hardest part for me to deal with more than anything else when I do these kinds of diets.
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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    Just watched this and thought some bored ppl might find it inspirational

    51 year old former fat guy goes on to become a bodybuilder after a transformation. All while blind.

    From our Canada brahs

    Thanks for sharing! If anyone is in need of motivation then watch this.

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    Originally Posted by TheNormalMan View Post
    Could be that. I already have all that, the half and half, and I have a ZMA supplement. Just haven't taken it in awhile.

    Going from junk food to this extreme of a diet always does a number, both mentally and physically.

    The worst part I hate the most is the mood swings.

    I can deal with physical discomfort, hunger without too much problem.

    What kills me is being happy one moment and then being completely under the weather the next for no apparent reason.

    This is the hardest part for me to deal with more than anything else when I do these kinds of diets.
    Wow, at the risk of sounding judgemental, maybe this diet really isn't that good for you?

    Also, i just found out peanut butter can be made from 100% peanuts! Mind Blowing! I've been spending £££ on the expensive stuff recently, going to start making my own versions, maybe even try out mixed nut or chocolate variants - such a risk taker!!
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    fuuuuuuuuu came home to find my mum baking a chocolate fudge cake and fudge crispy cakes....

    couldnt resist... godknowshowmanycals ive just had.... although I havent ate all day so I may not have gone too much over maintenance... fast day tomorrow then!
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    Originally Posted by RugbyColt View Post
    fuuuuuuuuu came home to find my mum baking a chocolate fudge cake and fudge crispy cakes....

    couldnt resist... godknowshowmanycals ive just had.... although I havent ate all day so I may not have gone too much over maintenance... fast day tomorrow then!
    Not a fan of this pattern.
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    Anyone that needs a little extra motivation getting up to do their workouts! Want 20% more gainzzz (weightless in this case lol)

    "A study published online in the British Journal of Nutrition has found that exercising on an empty stomach in the morning can help burn up to 20% more body fat than exercising after breakfast...."

    :O

    I can't post links but the article is in the National Post (Canadian Newspaper)
    Nobody on this site wants to read this. They are content with their 8 hamster meals a day
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    Originally Posted by Iusedtobefat99 View Post
    Nobody on this site wants to read this. They are content with their 8 hamster meals a day
    Who on earth eats 8 meals a day?
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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    Not a fan of this pattern.
    Eating disorder waiting to happen. Nothing wrong with planned, calculated fasts but fasting because you might have eaten over maintenance today is not wise IMO.
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    Yeah, I'm quoting a post from 2 pages back, big whoop, wanna fight about it?
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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    Eating disorder waiting to happen. Nothing wrong with planned, calculated fasts but fasting because you might have eaten over maintenance today is not wise IMO.
    normally it is planned however I feel if I dont go ahead with the fast or atleast restrict cals to a maximum of 600 tomorrow then I may stall progress
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    PSMF Day 05

    Day 01: 205.6#
    Day 02: 204.2#
    Day 03: 203.2#
    Day 04: 201.6#
    Day 05: 200.4#


    Five pounds in five days. Even if it mostly water weight, still feels good.

    First week I will have made any progress since the 1st of the year and the start of the competition.

    Be nice to finally some positive changes for once instead of backpedaling in the other direction.

    Feeling pretty good overall today compared to the last couple days. More alert and more energy even despite the fact that I didn't sleep well last night.

    Going to try to get to bed early tonight to catch up on some extra sleep and see if that helps.

    Heavy weight training day tomorrow which I'm really looking forward too.

    The other thing I hate about these highly calorie restrictive nutrition programs is how much working out has to be tapered back in accordance with the food being eaten.

    I'm like most people on this website where I enjoy working out five to six days per week even if my body doesn't need it to make progress.

    It's just the simple act of going to the gym that makes me feel strong, empowered, and good about myself and the rest of my day.

    I'm sure many other people on here can relate to that feeling.

    Another day on track and just going through the motions for now.

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    Originally Posted by Allingham View Post
    Despite failing in every respect this week the scales told me this morning I had still lost a few pounds.

    This rather serves to highlight the kind of progress I would be making if I was hyper-strict. Still, this way I get to drink ale and eat fried chicken.
    Impressive. I ate 1000 below maintenance and mostly protein and gained between yesterday and today. *evil glare*
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    Originally Posted by TheNormalMan View Post
    Day 01: 205.6#
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    Day 05: 200.4#
    how long do you plan to keep this up?
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    Originally Posted by Osbornezo View Post
    Was horribly restless last night and tossed and turned for hours wondering if it is food related
    I think disrupted sleep is quite common with dieting. If it happens regularly, you could try supplement with 400mg of magnesium prior to bed .
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    Originally Posted by KidAlchemy View Post
    I know that this isn't the PR thread but today I maxed my deadlift at 265lbs for 10reps! I think this is a PR for me because I have no re-collection of anything like that from the past and my personal logs don't date that far away.
    Nice work!
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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    how long do you plan to keep this up?
    I plan on doing this until the week of Valentine's Day. So about another two and a half weeks.

    Have some fun plans that week and I'm not going to let a super strict diet interfere with my fun then.

    So until then, it's pedal to the medal game on!
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    Originally Posted by TheNormalMan View Post
    I plan on doing this until the week of Valentine's Day. So about another two and a half weeks.

    Have some fun plans that week and I'm not going to let a super strict diet interfere with my fun then.

    So until then, it's pedal to the medal game on!
    Well done man. I'm going to try a PSMF next week myself. I like to mix it up.
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    hmm so much pmsf talk going on... from my experience.. 99 out of 100 people will fail or do it wrong...

    There really is no need for it unless u 100% need to drop a few pounds..

    but my word means nothing really so gl to everyone trying it.. did it a few months ago.. worst experience of my entire life..
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    Anyone reckon its possible to lose 41 lbs in just over 4 months?
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    Originally Posted by Osbornezo View Post
    Anyone reckon its possible to lose 41 lbs in just over 4 months?
    yup
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    Originally Posted by Osbornezo View Post
    Anyone reckon its possible to lose 41 lbs in just over 4 months?
    10lbs per month? That's doable. It's definitely aggressive, but doable.
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    Cool well thats my goal. Im focusing on keeping my protein up and hoping to not lose much muscle over the 4 months
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    Originally Posted by Kelekin View Post
    Well done man. I'm going to try a PSMF next week myself. I like to mix it up.
    Thanks man. Appreciated.

    Lot of different approaches. I'm doing a slightly modified version of Rapid Fat Loss that is easier for me to stick with personally.

    Not that I'm against doing programs exactly the way they're supposed to be done but I like to sometimes tweak things so they work just a little bit smoother for me in the long run.

    Originally Posted by Tayler8 View Post
    hmm so much pmsf talk going on... from my experience.. 99 out of 100 people will fail or do it wrong...

    There really is no need for it unless u 100% need to drop a few pounds..

    but my word means nothing really so gl to everyone trying it.. did it a few months ago.. worst experience of my entire life..
    I'm not doing it because I really need to drop weight fast, but because every now and then I have to shock myself out of complacency.

    I find it too easy to slip back into old habits and overtime these old habits and before I know it, the weight just slowly creeps back on again.

    10 pounds might not seem like a lot in the grand scheme of where I've came from, but I've been down this road enough times to know that 5, even 10 pounds can quickly turn into much more if you're not careful.

    Especially when you have lifelong issues with food that you have to deal with everyday no matter how strong you are or feel on any given day.

    It's not that your word mean nothings, you tried it and it wasn't for you.

    No one program is meant to be done by everyone and just because one thing works for one or several people doesn't mean it will work for you or everyone else.

    A lot of people on here can eat moderate amounts of "junk food" during a cut and as long as they hit their calorie macros, they are successful.

    I've tried doing that before and for a time it works, but before I know it, a moderate amount turns into a large pizza and a family size bag of skittles.

    So we all have to experiment and find the program(s) that work for us, not anyone else.
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    Now i want skittles. Thanks, normalman. :/




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