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    It makes you stronger. Allows you to push out an extra rep or two. Basically, it fills your muscles with water, which allows you to go a littler harder, which allows you to tear a little more, which allows you to build a little stronger.

    Most people see gainz when they start taking creatine, and it's really dirt cheap.

    It's ironic that the most effective supplement is also the cheapest.

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    might get some samples just to try.
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    Originally Posted by RugbyColt View Post
    im too much of a **** to drink, 1 and a half pints and im passed out.
    What? And you play Rugby?
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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post

    In going 'against the grain' you're just wrong here. 6 meals per day offers ZERO metabolic advantage over fewer meals per day when total calories are held constant.
    I've actually seen a few studies / articles where it was stated that it could possibly be detrimental to ease of digestion eating so many meals in a day since your digestive system is constantly trying to break down and process new food...kind of like adding new oil to an engine without draining the old oil first. Will try to find the links.

    EDIT: "Adds Naveed Sattar, professor of metabolic medicine at Glasgow University: 'Snacking gives us extra calories and the fact is, extra calories make us fat.'
    But not only are snacks often highly calorific; eating all day also undermines our body's ability to burn off fat."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-diabetes.html

    "If we graze, then we are eating small meals every three to thee and a half hours. This can cause more insulin to be secreted just as insulin should be concluding its rounds. The pancreas has not had an opportunity to store up little packets of insulin and thus there is no phase I insulin secretion and thus your pancreas goes right to phase II. Unfortunately, because there is no phase I, the pancreas prolongs phase II which causes insulin to remain elevated for longer periods of time! The result is your body never gets into the fat burning zone."

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    What? And you play Rugby?
    hahaha yeah, been playing my whole life and semi professionally . to get accepted into the rugby team I had to drink a can of beer which has been poured down the hairiest guys back, drip through the crack and drink.... its called the black forrest... only done it once but it was either that or get beaten up and handcuffed to a lampost naked with a plastic sheep taped to my nads.
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    PSMF Day 04

    Day 01: 205.6#
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    Day 04: 201.6#


    Really feeling a little run down and tired today.

    Lack of carbs and calories takes it's toll.

    Lifted earlier today. Still have all my strength and I felt good during my session, but I'm feeling the effects of so little food.

    Gotta keep going. Weight is finally getting back down again and it feels good to be making headway again.

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    Anyone got any good ideas for adding a bit more flavour to plain whey powder?
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    Originally Posted by RugbyColt View Post
    hahaha yeah, been playing my whole life and semi professionally . to get accepted into the rugby team I had to drink a can of beer which has been poured down the hairiest guys back, drip through the crack and drink.... its called the black forrest... only done it once but it was either that or get beaten up and handcuffed to a lampost naked with a plastic sheep taped to my nads.
    That is solid - my team made you drink out of your rugby boot after you scored your first try. They would put moldy cheese, bad milk, hot sauce - whatever they could get their hands on in the boot. EVERYONE yacks.
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    Originally Posted by TheNormalMan View Post
    Day 01: 205.6#
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    Day 03: 203.2#
    Day 04: 201.6#


    Really feeling a little run down and tired today.

    Lack of carbs and calories takes it's toll.

    Lifted earlier today. Still have all my strength and I felt good during my session, but I'm feeling the effects of so little food.

    Gotta keep going. Weight is finally getting back down again and it feels good to be making headway again.

    One day at a time.
    I just drink caffeine all day long to make sure I'm not feeling like chit.
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    Originally Posted by wutang9o View Post
    Anyone got any good ideas for adding a bit more flavour to plain whey powder?
    Fruit, ice, water, blender.
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    Originally Posted by TheNormalMan View Post
    Day 01: 205.6#
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    Day 04: 201.6#


    Really feeling a little run down and tired today.

    Lack of carbs and calories takes it's toll.

    Lifted earlier today. Still have all my strength and I felt good during my session, but I'm feeling the effects of so little food.

    Gotta keep going. Weight is finally getting back down again and it feels good to be making headway again.

    One day at a time.
    Still following along. Not much to say, really just replying here for encouragement

    In an effort to add something intelligent/constructive, I'll ask: what supplements are you taking? Multivitamin, fish oil, greens powder?
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    Definitely feeling the hurt today. Upped my leg press again to 290 (probably weak compared to some people here) and then finally added weighted squats back in. Safe to say my glutes are feeling it.

    My weight is finally under the weight I started with on Sunday. I put my weight at 323 on Sunday, but Monday morning I was up to 326 despite not doing much that would up water weight on Sunday. But alas, down to 322 and have three more days to create a loss.
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    in one of those popcorn and hot chocolate watching a film moods... so tempted to make some hot chocolate and get the popcorn out the cupboard but after having a 250cal breakfast, 1000kcal subway and a godknowshowmanycals chicken tikka with salsa dressing and brocolli dish I dont want to risk going over my kcal haha just couldnt resist dat subway
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    The result is your body never gets into the fat burning zone."
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    Originally Posted by wutang9o View Post
    Anyone got any good ideas for adding a bit more flavour to plain whey powder?
    Milk/heavy cream with peanut butter makes it taste like a milkshake.
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    Originally Posted by RugbyColt View Post
    hahaha yeah, been playing my whole life and semi professionally . to get accepted into the rugby team I had to drink a can of beer which has been poured down the hairiest guys back, drip through the crack and drink.... its called the black forrest... only done it once but it was either that or get beaten up and handcuffed to a lampost naked with a plastic sheep taped to my nads.
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    Milk/heavy cream with peanut butter makes it taste like a milkshake.
    If you go this route, allot about 400 kcals to the cause!
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    just posting in case anyone is interested in digging more...not EVERYTHING is broscience. there could be validity to it. insulin has a lot to do with the mobilization of fat...many people far more educated than you and I will readily say so.
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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    just posting in case anyone is interested in digging more...not EVERYTHING is broscience. there could be validity to it. insulin has a lot to do with the mobilization of fat...many people far more educated than you and I will readily say so.
    I read what you wrote. I read what you linked to. I'm not saying there's nothing there and it's all bro-science, but the "fat burning zone" is 100% legit brience (srs)(srs)(srs)
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    Too late to join this, but good luck to everyone

    I'm starting a cut as well, going to use bodybugg to measure claories burned (it really isn't as simple as BMR*factor, some days I'm 3000 some days I'm 5000) and trying a new strategy to my diet. I eat out every day, 1 2000 calorie meal at wendy's usually, can easily get the protein with their stuff and it just makes it so easy (isn't THAT expensive either, can make due with 10$ a day though I'm spoiled so it gets to 20 usually).

    Only "problem" is the high sodium, like 4000mg, but hopefully I will be fine. Not preparing food has taken a huge load off my chest, and eating once a day frees up a lot of time.
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    I read what you wrote. I read what you linked to. I'm not saying there's nothing there and it's all bro-science, but the "fat burning zone" is 100% legit brience (srs)(srs)(srs)
    you're nit picking and obviously didn't read what constitutes the fat burning zone.

    EDIT: In case you are unaware, you cannot store and burn fat at the same time. When insulin is present glucagon isn't, so the fat burning zone refers to when fat is being burned instead of stored.
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    Just watched this and thought some bored ppl might find it inspirational

    51 year old former fat guy goes on to become a bodybuilder after a transformation. All while blind.

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    Originally Posted by caldave28 View Post
    I just drink caffeine all day long to make sure I'm not feeling like chit.
    I hear ya on that. I'm the ECA stack right now.

    Problem is I've cycled on it long enough that I don't really feel the stimulant or appetite suppressing effects hardly at all anymore.

    It still gives me energy, but I'm not going to increase my dosage beyond what I'm at now just to give myself more of a boost.

    Not sure that would be good for my heart or my health.

    Originally Posted by deebee83 View Post
    Still following along. Not much to say, really just replying here for encouragement

    In an effort to add something intelligent/constructive, I'll ask: what supplements are you taking? Multivitamin, fish oil, greens powder?
    Thanks, not a lot to say at the moment except just grinding it out one day at a time.

    I'm taking Opti-Men multivitamin atm, fish oil when I actually remember to take it, Vitamin C/D/E and Calcium.

    I try to get most of my fiber from veggies, but I throw in a couple tablespoons of fiber powder with my daily protein shake and a few tablespoons of flaxmeal as well.

    Helps keep everything moving from what I can tell.
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    Originally Posted by TheNormalMan View Post
    I hear ya on that. I'm the ECA stack right now.

    Problem is I've cycled on it long enough that I don't really feel the stimulant or appetite suppressing effects hardly at all anymore.

    It still gives me energy, but I'm not going to increase my dosage beyond what I'm at now just to give myself more of a boost.

    Not sure that would be good for my heart or my health.



    Thanks, not a lot to say at the moment except just grinding it out one day at a time.

    I'm taking Opti-Men multivitamin atm, fish oil when I actually remember to take it, Vitamin C/D/E and Calcium.

    I try to get most of my fiber from veggies, but I throw in a couple tablespoons of fiber powder with my daily protein shake and a few tablespoons of flaxmeal as well.

    Helps keep everything moving from what I can tell.
    You like that multi? I just started taking that and fish oil a couple days ago. It feel like I have a tad more energy and definitely felt good during my run today. I never thought I would 'feel' a multi or fish oil....maybe it's coincidence. Maybe not.
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    Orange Triad love from me, if anyone is looking into a new MV. Opti-Men is something I'll consider if/when I make a change though. 6 pills a day from OT gets to be a lot.
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    BTW cnh, I saw you're closing in on 100lbs lost on MFP. Crazy man, awesome progress and congrats.
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    Originally Posted by deebee83 View Post
    Orange Triad love from me, if anyone is looking into a new MV. Opti-Men is something I'll consider if/when I make a change though. 6 pills a day from OT gets to be a lot.
    I have some OT on the way. I tried to cancel but fkn Amazon seller sent it anyways. I tried the Opti first cause it was a bit cheaper, less pills, and I didn't think I needed all the extra joint stuff. Once I finish the Opti, I'll start on the OT and be able to compare them side by side. That's a couple months away though.

    You noticed some good things with OT?
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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    I have some OT on the way. I tried to cancel but fkn Amazon seller sent it anyways. I tried the Opti first cause it was a bit cheaper, less pills, and I didn't think I needed all the extra joint stuff. Once I finish the Opti, I'll start on the OT and be able to compare them side by side. That's a couple months away though.

    You noticed some good things with OT?
    Might be a dumb question, what is OT?

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    Originally Posted by TheNormalMan View Post
    Day 01: 205.6#
    Day 02: 204.2#
    Day 03: 203.2#
    Day 04: 201.6#


    Really feeling a little run down and tired today.

    Lack of carbs and calories takes it's toll.

    Lifted earlier today. Still have all my strength and I felt good during my session, but I'm feeling the effects of so little food.

    Gotta keep going. Weight is finally getting back down again and it feels good to be making headway again.

    One day at a time.
    Been considering doing PSMF, doubt I'd last the 6weeks. Might go 2-3 just for a quick sprint...
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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    I have some OT on the way. I tried to cancel but fkn Amazon seller sent it anyways. I tried the Opti first cause it was a bit cheaper, less pills, and I didn't think I needed all the extra joint stuff. Once I finish the Opti, I'll start on the OT and be able to compare them side by side. That's a couple months away though.

    You noticed some good things with OT?
    Noticed very little, but with a MV I suppose that's to be expected.

    I've noticed a lack of winter sickness. I've been as healthy as I've ever been in my life since I started it (not even a case of the sniffles despite the cold weather), joints make that cracking sound less often, and 'things' have been moving right along in the digestion department.

    All that being said, I also started on OT at a time in my life when I've been eating better than ever (by far), exercising regularly, and am at my lowest BF% in quite a while. So maybe it's all the other stuff that is giving me the positive benefits. At the very least, OT hasn't hurt.
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