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    Talking You guise are missing out big time if you don't do Hise shrugs (srs)




    I tried this with measly 135 lb with a slight lean forward and by the time I did 10 reps my whole upper back (including lats) was fried

    it should be a good finishing movement for your back workout

    I also like it cuz you don't have to use as much weight as you do regular shrugs
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    Very interesting and nice vid OP. I might give these a try and see how they work/feel.
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    Originally Posted by yg7s7 View Post



    I tried this with measly 135 lb with a slight lean forward and by the time I did 10 reps my whole upper back (including lats) was fried

    it should be a good finishing movement for your back workout

    I also like it cuz you don't have to use as much weight as you do regular shrugs
    What do you normally shrug and what rep range for normal shrugs? What rep range/sets did you use for these? Looks interesting to be honest with ya
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    will try next back day
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    Looks good! I'm doing this on my back day.
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    How to stop neck and upper back pain while squatting? I prefer stopbeingavagina in a moderate weight for about 12 reps. Simple and effective.
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    May give those a try!

    I also reccommend doing some of these after shrugs

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    Originally Posted by Bumpus View Post
    How to stop neck and upper back pain while squatting? I prefer stopbeingavagina in a moderate weight for about 12 reps. Simple and effective.
    I watched up until he talked about doing the exercise because the bar hurts while doing squats. Gotta agree with bumpus here.
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    Originally Posted by dnixon View Post
    What do you normally shrug and what rep range for normal shrugs? What rep range/sets did you use for these? Looks interesting to be honest with ya
    usually about 3-4 sets of 10-12 reps

    Originally Posted by Bumpus View Post
    How to stop neck and upper back pain while squatting? I prefer stopbeingavagina in a moderate weight for about 12 reps. Simple and effective.
    I didn't really do it for mitigating neck pain, I did it mainly for building muscles

    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    May give those a try!

    I also reccommend doing some of these after shrugs

    ahaha I've done this with a trap (hex) bar when I was just playing around with it.. it works well and I might try this again with dumbbells later

    thanks for reminding me brah

    wow you have big arms btw

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    I watched up until he talked about doing the exercise because the bar hurts while doing squats. Gotta agree with bumpus here.
    again, I did it to build muscles, not b/c of neck pain

    it's a legit exercise
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    May give those a try!

    I also reccommend doing some of these after shrugs

    How many years you been workin' out brah?

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    Aww, thx guys



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    How many years you been workin' out brah?

    U look awesome.
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    I been workin out on and off since junior high...but wasn't training my whole body till freshman year in high school....so like, about 10 years or so but on and off. Only my senior year of high school did I take training and diet really seriously, and in college I'd say about 2 years of training I did well but diet wasn't great, then a year of just training like every other week or so, and last two years I didn't train at all.

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    Rehabing my rotator cuff cus I tweaked it somehow outside of the gym. Gonna make rotator cuff training part of delts/traps workouts now. Love doing the exercises, make my rotator cuff feel great (only thing is that having a weak rotator cuff later on in the week makes chest workouts kinda tricky). Right now, the rest of my workouts are basically made around not tweaking my rotator cuff again and not going super heavy on stuff where it's called into play (can't go too heavy on incline presses cus front delts come heavily into play). Nonetheless have been getting good workouts. Hopefully in another month my rotators will feel good enough to start going heavy again and having balls-out training sessions.

    Slowly working my volume up and then will start increasing intensity. My delts are loving the increased workout volume though in terms of growth. They were being really stubborn since I picked up training again. My arms were slowly progressing and had like a spurt the past couple weeks, lol. Also, they're engorged with blood in the vid cus it's after an arm workout and I took a preworkout supp with NO precursors in it(arginine, even though lots of people don't respond to it, apparently).

    As for my delts, I found out that my volume in previous workouts wasn't high enough to fully stimulate them. Gotta get them caught up to the chest and arms. Definitely working on my proportions, trying to put size on in the right places.

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    very interesting. I am gonna try that next time.
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    Rehabing my rotator cuff cus I tweaked it somehow outside of the gym. Gonna make rotator cuff training part of delts/traps workouts now. Love doing the exercises, make my rotator cuff feel great (only thing is that having a weak rotator cuff later on in the week makes chest workouts kinda tricky). Right now, the rest of my workouts are basically made around not tweaking my rotator cuff again and not going super heavy on stuff where it's called into play (can't go too heavy on incline presses cus front delts come heavily into play). Nonetheless have been getting good workouts. Hopefully in another month my rotators will feel good enough to start going heavy again and having balls-out training sessions.
    I actually do this rotator cuff exercise as a part of my warmup and I think it's been very beneficial



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    I actually might try this, looking to get big traps.
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    Nice post! Definitely going to implement this in my back program.
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    Whenever I see an exercise like this I think to myself "Is there a better way of doing this?" Honestly it looks like a watered down overhead shrug that you could load up a lot more. I would actually imagine these being able to more weight then a traditional shrug depending on how comfortable you are with a lot of weight on your back.

    I just think if your only purpose of using it is size there are better exercises, but always nice to have another way to do something.
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    Originally Posted by yg7s7 View Post
    I actually do this rotator cuff exercise as a part of my warmup and I think it's been very beneficial



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    yeah, that's the one i started including on all shoulder workouts. Sometimes do other ones, too. Thx for posting. Gonna give those Bradford presses a try.
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    Weird movement, can't see how it would be more effective than a regular shrug for traps. With arms fully down or fully up with sraight arm instead of bent at the elbow - you get more leverage, and it becomes a more difficult lift. I might use them if they hit a part of traps other lifts couldn't, but it wouldn't be my go-to. Deadlifts, pull-ups, rows, farmer's walks, even before regular shrugs they're being hit pretty well through a number of other things.
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    Not sure what the ramifications might be of contracting a muscle that is being locally compressed by a heavy weight. Doesn't sound like the right thing to do.

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