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    So wade,,, how would you so far compare this to... scivation NOVEM??? @ FORE SCUEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????????/
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    Killer lower body power workout yesterday, update to come today when I'm out of class & meetings.
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    be careful.
    The more cardio = more compensation on your legs = less recovery.
    LISS (and I mean very LISS stuff like walking) can actually enhance recovery due to increased blood flow and the low impact on the muscle (much like foam rolling helps recovery). Its the HIIT and medium-intensity cardio that will end up interfering with leg recovery and impeding weight sessions.
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    Originally Posted by neddo View Post
    Strong lifts, as per usual brogan.

    @aaron - Add in cardio as you feel needed, running PHAT changes nothing with regards to cardio. I add HIIT in for its sheer effectiveness not only for fat loss, but cardiovascular health.
    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Correct, I was just asking if PHAT users find cardio necessary with how much more volume you're doing. I guess everyone is different, but my typical gym session (not PHAT) is between 45mins-1hour, and with PHAT, it's looking like I'll exceed that time.

    Adding in HITT on those days off would be a great addition.
    ^^ which i why i addressed my post above....

    Originally Posted by The Big Sleep View Post
    LISS (and I mean very LISS stuff like walking) can actually enhance recovery due to increased blood flow and the low impact on the muscle (much like foam rolling helps recovery). Its the HIIT and medium-intensity cardio that will end up interfering with leg recovery and impeding weight sessions.
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    Thanks Bob, your post completely got away from me, probably because it was the last one on page 7.

    Let's see the update Wade!
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    Lower Body Power Day - 7 January 2013






    Barbell Back Squat
    45 = > 10
    135 = > 10
    225 = > 10
    315 = > 5
    365 = > 3
    405 = > 5
    405 = > 5
    405 = > 5

    Hammer Strength Horizontal Leg Press
    5 Plates Per Side = > 8
    5 Plates Per Side = > 8

    Straight Leg Deadlift
    365 = > 8
    365 = > 8
    365 = > 8

    Hammer Strength Glute-Ham Raise
    Bodyweight = > 10
    Bodyweight + 25 = > 10


    This was a short, sweet, heavy morning workout.

    Two scoops of Genomyx Origin is perfect for leg day - a nice pump in the legs, a smooth, light stream of energy - exactly what I need when I don't want the blood flow to affect my strength and the stimulation to be inordinate and a detriment to my workout if my heart starts racing.

    The nicest thing about Origin (besides its pronounced effects and great taste) is that ability to really easily dial in the product to the user's needs - it's easy to go by feel about how you'd like the workout to go and how you need the preworkout product to assist you. It's been a really great experience thus far.

    Hitting shoulders and back tomorrow, will see what we kind of intensity we can get for another fasted morning workout!
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    Originally Posted by UncleWade View Post

    Lower Body Power Day - 7 January 2013






    Barbell Back Squat
    45 = > 10
    135 = > 10
    225 = > 10
    315 = > 5
    365 = > 3
    405 = > 5
    405 = > 5
    405 = > 5

    Hammer Strength Horizontal Leg Press
    5 Plates Per Side = > 8
    5 Plates Per Side = > 8

    Straight Leg Deadlift
    365 = > 8
    365 = > 8
    365 = > 8

    Hammer Strength Glute-Ham Raise
    Bodyweight = > 10
    Bodyweight + 25 = > 10


    This was a short, sweet, heavy morning workout.

    Two scoops of Genomyx Origin is perfect for leg day - a nice pump in the legs, a smooth, light stream of energy - exactly what I need when I don't want the blood flow to affect my strength and the stimulation to be inordinate and a detriment to my workout if my heart starts racing.

    The nicest thing about Origin (besides its pronounced effects and great taste) is that ability to really easily dial in the product to the user's needs - it's easy to go by feel about how you'd like the workout to go and how you need the preworkout product to assist you. It's been a really great experience thus far.

    Hitting shoulders and back tomorrow, will see what we kind of intensity we can get for another fasted morning workout!
    Some impressive poundage here good sir. How deep are you going on those squats? ATG? I try to go past parallel to activate the hammies too. On hyper days however I usually pre-exhaust my hams so I dont go as deep on squats those days.

    Also, Have you ever seen the StrongLifts 5x5 workout? Very effective power workout. I did it over the summer and had amazing results.
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    Originally Posted by eric40817 View Post
    Some impressive poundage here good sir. How deep are you going on those squats? ATG? I try to go past parallel to activate the hammies too. On hyper days however I usually pre-exhaust my hams so I dont go as deep on squats those days.
    Since I've changed my goals from being an explosive athlete to putting on some size as someone who's chasing aesthetics, I've gone from ATG to approximately 1-3" past parallel depending on the feel I'm trying to get. I play around with stance and bar position as well to hit what I feel needs the most work. Been doing narrow stance, low bar, lower depth to hit the quads lately but yesterday was a wider-stance powerlifting squat.

    Also, Have you ever seen the StrongLifts 5x5 workout? Very effective power workout. I did it over the summer and had amazing results.
    I've never looked into it, I'll have to.
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    Originally Posted by UncleWade View Post
    Since I've changed my goals from being an explosive athlete to putting on some size as someone who's chasing aesthetics, I've gone from ATG to approximately 1-3" past parallel depending on the feel I'm trying to get. I play around with stance and bar position as well to hit what I feel needs the most work. Been doing narrow stance, low bar, lower depth to hit the quads lately but yesterday was a wider-stance powerlifting squat.



    I've never looked into it, I'll have to.
    I hear ya man. For me, my options of squat stance are limited as my knee tends to give me issues, and my hips are a little tight.

    The 5x5 is great, and you can use it just like the phat where you can really alter it to suit your needs/wants. And you're squatting 3x/weeks
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    Originally Posted by UncleWade View Post
    The nicest thing about Origin (besides its pronounced effects and great taste) is that ability to really easily dial in the product to the user's needs - it's easy to go by feel about how you'd like the workout to go and how you need the preworkout product to assist you. It's been a really great experience thus far.
    Agreed. It really is easy to decide whether or not I want 2 or 3 scoops before my workouts, depending on what I need that day or which workout I am doing. Pretty satisfied on my end that you are having a great experience, as you know, thats what we aim for in this industry.
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    Back + Shoulders Hypertrophy Day - 9 January 2012






    Dynamic Effort Pendlay Rows
    3 = > 95
    3 = > 95
    3 = > 95
    3 = > 95
    3 = > 95
    3 = > 95
    Maximum bar speed, 20 seconds rest.

    Neutral Grip Chinups
    Bodyweight = > 8
    Bodyweight = > 8
    Bodyweight = > 8

    T Bar Row
    3 Plates = > 12
    3 Plates = > 10
    3 Plates = > 10

    Dumbbell Row
    100 = > 12
    100 = > 12

    Life Fitness Cable Close-Grip Pulldown
    130 = > 15
    130 = > 15

    Standing Barbell Overhead Press
    165 = > 3
    165 = > 3
    165 = > 3
    3-5 minutes rest in between sets, incorporating heavier weights on this day compared to Power Day when shoulders are already depleted.

    Upright Rows
    95 = > 15
    95 = > 15

    Life Fitness Cable Lateral Raises
    7.5 = > 20
    7.5 = > 20

    Barbell Shrugs
    135 = > 20
    135 = > 20


    The impressiveness continues, with a shining day after consuming 3 scoops of Origin preworkout. I'm experimenting with IF and have been training while fasted, so the extra push from this product has been a welcome addition as my body becomes adapted to this style - which I'm really starting to like. Yesterday I also consumed a serving of Bodybuilding.com's Amino Recovery pre-workout, meaning that I had 6g of L-Cit in my system. Needless to say, the pumps were absolutely incredible and the endurance and mind-muscle connection really shined. I try to go a bit lighter and get a great feel on these hypertrophy days, and that's exactly what happened yesterday. Stay tuned for lower body hypertrophy day - going to try and jam it into my busy schedule today.
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    Damn it tried to put you to exactly 20000 reps and went 1 over. Somebody with 2k neg OP for me

    I always did pendlay rows too, the speed work kicked my ass
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    Originally Posted by 12ccopeland View Post
    That workout looks simply epic. Mirin' everything.
    Thanks bro. I need to stop by your log, I get so swamped I lose contact.

    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Training Fasted with Pre-workouts = Bigger kick.
    Good work
    That's a fact. I'm digging fasted training, especially on leg days.

    Originally Posted by tmd17 View Post
    Damn it tried to put you to exactly 20000 reps and went 1 over. Somebody with 2k neg OP for me

    I always did pendlay rows too, the speed work kicked my ass
    Close enough for rock and roll.
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    Lower Body Hypertrophy - 10 January 2013






    Barbell Back Squat - Speed Work (Dynamic Effort)
    275 = > 3
    275 = > 3
    275 = > 3
    275 = > 3
    275 = > 3
    275 = > 3
    30 seconds rest between sets, done to a parallel box. Considering ATG next week @ 50%.

    Straight Legged Deadlift
    315 = > 12
    315 = > 12
    315 = > 12
    More focus on form and contraction than heavy ass weight (that's what Power Day is for ).

    Lying Leg Curls
    70 = > 15
    70 = > 12
    3 second contraction & hold at top of rep on second set.

    Hammer Strength Seated Leg Curl
    45 = > 15
    45 = > 15
    3-5 second contraction & hold for each rep of each set.

    Life Fitness Cable Leg Extensions
    70 = > 20
    70 = > 20
    70 = > 20
    Contaction & hold at top of each rep.

    Hammer Strength Horizontal Leg Press Calf Raises
    135 = > 15
    Done in the DC style - explosive positive, 5 second negative, 15 second hold and stretch at bottom.


    Fasted training at 3:30 PM today. Feed window typically is ranging from 4:30 PM - 10:30 PM or slightly past.

    Incredible kick from two scoops of Origin. Nice pumps on Hypertrophy Day, as this was the emphasis. Went light on the quadriceps work because of an absolutely ****-crazy packed gym and significant tiredness and DOMS from earlier Power Day. My quad development is ahead of that of my hamstrings and calves, so it was nice to focus on the other body parts while still getting a great pump for all parts involved.
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    Ive found greater focus on some fasted training sessions, sometimes you feel like hell after dragging out of bed and trying to smash squats.

    315 x 12 on SLDL..

    Damn.
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Ive found greater focus on some fasted training sessions, sometimes you feel like hell after dragging out of bed and trying to smash squats.

    315 x 12 on SLDL..

    Damn.
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    315 x 12 on SLDL..

    Damn.
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    I'm here for the fatceps.
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    Originally Posted by jhouser View Post
    I'm here for the fatceps.
    You know I can neg again now, right.....?

    Stay tuned everyone, I let my lifting partner jhouser (above) snag a couple of scoops to try for our workout today.
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    No longer with SNS?
    Woahhhh!?!?!
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    No longer with SNS?
    Correct, pleasant parting but busy with school-related **** and extracurriculars. It's recruitment season, and I'm president of our national fraternity's chapter. Plate is very full.

    Originally Posted by tmd17 View Post
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    Wade let me try two scoops (one serving) of origin before our Chest and Arms Hypertrophy day. My thoughts:
    • The 3g of L-Citrulline definitely increased my pump, which was the purpose of the lift today, anyway. 3g was good, but I can also see how users would want to up the dose to 3 scoops of origin for more L-Cit on an upper body day. For lower body I would NOT go higher than 2 scoops of origin -- hamstring pumps can get terribly painful terribly quick. I wouldn't want to go too much higher before reaching diminishing returns, either.

    • Energy and focus was solid. Wade and I have been doing more low volume for a while, so to switch to PHAT has been an exercise in mental endurance. After the 60 minute mark in the life, I start to lose that tunnel-vision focus. I felt solid today, and pushed through the last few biceps and triceps movement very efficiently. DiCaffeine Malate did not make me crash.

    • I didn't like the taste as well as Wade does, but still one of the better tasting preworkouts I've had.

    All in all, I'd definitely give it another go. I'll be keeping my eyes open for deals in the future, and would pick it up for extended use if a financially appealing opportunity arose.

    Now, let's hear about your lift, Wade
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    Originally Posted by jhouser View Post
    Wade let me try two scoops (one serving) of origin before our Chest and Arms Hypertrophy day. My thoughts:
    • The 3g of L-Citrulline definitely increased my pump, which was the purpose of the lift today, anyway. 3g was good, but I can also see how users would want to up the dose to 3 scoops of origin for more L-Cit on an upper body day. For lower body I would NOT go higher than 2 scoops of origin -- hamstring pumps can get terribly painful terribly quick. I wouldn't want to go too much higher before reaching diminishing returns, either.

    • Energy and focus was solid. Wade and I have been doing more low volume for a while, so to switch to PHAT has been an exercise in mental endurance. After the 60 minute mark in the life, I start to lose that tunnel-vision focus. I felt solid today, and pushed through the last few biceps and triceps movement very efficiently. DiCaffeine Malate did not make me crash.

    • I didn't like the taste as well as Wade does, but still one of the better tasting preworkouts I've had.

    All in all, I'd definitely give it another go. I'll be keeping my eyes open for deals in the future, and would pick it up for extended use if a financially appealing opportunity arose.

    Now, let's hear about your lift, Wade
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