Yes, I use a trap bar for deadlifts. I just think that I get more overall lower body development from the trap bar. However, I'm running into an issue with grip. I was deadlifting last night with 365 on the trap bar. On my 6th rep of my 5th set, my left hand, my dominant hand, started to lose grip on the bar. It wouldn't be so bad if I thought I was near muscular failure, but I was not. I felt like I had another 3-4 reps in me. Now there are 2 things that have an obvious impact on my grip. First, I don't have the largest hands in the world, and second, I do have some tendonitis and general repetitive stress pain/weakness from my desk job. I should note that I use Versa gripps when deadlifting, which seems to help some when compared to bare handed w/ chalk, but it's only about 1 rep difference. What I'm looking for is suggestions to help improve my grip strength from those of you who may have battled the same issue.
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12-20-2012, 06:47 AM #1
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Grip strength problem on trap bar deadlifts
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12-20-2012, 08:10 AM #2
I've been battling grip strength for most of my lifting (small hands, too), and after reading many suggestions and trying most everything, I finally gave up and just started going barehanded with chalk. I'm not lifting nearly what you are, but my grip strength has improved tremendously in the last few months while I am seeing gains in the deadlift. I've probably limited my back development a bit, but I figure that my grip will catch up soon enough at the rate it's progressing. I consider it an investment.
I find the MOST challenging for my grip, and also therfore the best training, is dumbbell lunges. After doing three sets to about 10-12 reps, my hands/forearms are screaming at me. If you don't do those on leg days, you might try it for building grip. It's worked well for me.
I'll watch this thread though for pointers!
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12-20-2012, 11:20 AM #3
Try doing several sets of Bar Holds at the end of your Deadlift day workout.
Set the pins in a power rack to hold the bar a few inches below the point where it dead-hangs in your hands. Load it with your current deadlift max weight, pick it up, and hold it as long as possible. Do three 'sets,' working to increase your hold time week-to-week. When you can hold the loaded bar for 20-25 seconds per set, increase the weight.No brain, no gain.
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12-20-2012, 12:02 PM #4
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I opened this thread to post this. Barbell static holds are a great supplemental exercise if grip strength is your limiting factor with deadlifts. Farmers walks can help too. I used to do deadlifts one day of the week, then 3 days later spend maybe 15 minutes training grip strength. I got up to 435 with double overhand grip deadlifts this way (chalk but no straps). I switched to a mixed grip to get to 500, but that was a mistake.
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12-20-2012, 12:20 PM #5
To get the most out of my back training, I use versa grips when my grip fails.
I still work my grip strength up to that point and with static holds, farmers walks etc...Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
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12-20-2012, 12:24 PM #6
I have just started to run into grip strength issues on the Lat Pulldown machine. When I started lifting, I was at about 130lbs. Now I'm at 190lbs but when I hit failure at 8 reps on a 12/10/8 set, it is more from not being able to hold on to the bar. Also looking for ways to increase my grip strength to break 200lbs on Lat Pulldown and keep going up!
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12-20-2012, 02:25 PM #10
Along with support, pinch, and crush movements for the grip, be sure to train your extensors so the muscles that close the hand aren't limited by a weakness in the opposing muscle group.
My grip really began to improve when I worked extensions with bands and sand into my grip training.Hums the theme to Superman during planks and LYTPs. Now that you've read this, you will too.
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12-20-2012, 02:54 PM #11
^^^^ Yep.
I see a lot of recommendations to use grippers (like COC, etc.), or to do Plate Pinches, and no doubt, they will both help build grip 'strength,' but IMO, the best way to do it to increase the ability to pull a heavy bar off the floor is to train your grip with a heavy bar. I'm a firm believer in the S.A.I.D. principle.No brain, no gain.
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Great suggestions for working on the grip! I also have trouble with my grip on deads, rows, and pulldowns - my hands give out before my lats. I use straps on heavy deads and rows - works well for me. But they don't seem to help with pulldowns. I really should do more wide-grip pull-ups - there my back and arms give out before my grip.
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