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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    I do. I'm not sure if it will read these small amounts accurately. It's kind of an older one and isn't digital.
    Why u no 21rd century?

    Didnt know csb was on Y too. Did you start it already, csb?

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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    Why u no 21rd century?

    Didnt know csb was on Y too. Did you start it already, csb?
    No, I Y'd in spring/summer 2011. Don't know for sure if I will this year, I might have a couple bottles left of 2.5 mg/cap. Don't start dieting til Monday.

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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    Why u no 21rd century?
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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    No, I Y'd in spring/summer 2011. Don't know for sure if I will this year, I might have a couple bottles left of 2.5 mg/cap. Don't start dieting til Monday.
    Any notable results?

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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post

    Didnt know csb was on Y too. Did you start it already, csb?
    Seems to me nearly everyone is on Y in here atm , apart from me. Almost tempted to start on them again just to be with the crowd

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    Originally Posted by Znik View Post
    Seems to me nearly everyone is on Y in here atm , apart from me. Almost tempted to start on them again just to be with the crowd
    I too am thinking about it, now that im doing regular cardio.

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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    Any notable results?
    -Bought Lyle's Stubborn Fat Handbook
    -I was pretty lean when I started using Y + caffeine + L-tyrosine. Thought I was legit 10%. Maybe/maybe not. Calipers had me leaner, but IDK if calipers are whack.
    -Diet was sub 2000kcals, probably 1800 most days, 100g carbs or less outside of weekly refeed.
    -Did Lyle's Stubborn fat protocols (combination of hard intervals and steady-state), fasted, 2-3 times per week. Sometimes just steady-state. Also did a lot of walking/hiking on off days, can't recall if I Y'd on those days, prolly not.
    -Did this for weeks/couple months. Til I was close to being a g*dda*mn buck fifty.
    -Got pretty dang lean.

    Honestly, I don't know if the Y-HCl/caffeine/L-tyrosine made a big difference or not, being that the nature of fat loss is pretty gradual, at least for me. Now, I could tell a difference (the "holy-crap-what-am-doing?!" sensation) vs. if I did the hard intervals without the supps beforehand, but what extent of the actual difference in fat loss is I don't know. Basically, what I am saying is that I would have been surprised and a disappointed if I hadn't gotten at least as lean whether or not I did the Y.

    It's worth a shot. It's well documented, and sometimes even if the effect is largely placebo (not saying it is in this case), it helps keep you on track because you are convinced you are making strides.

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    It's worth a shot. It's well documented, and sometimes even if the effect is largely placebo (not saying it is in this case), it helps keep you on track because you are convinced you are making strides.
    ty for the write up. This is exactly how I feel. Will it have an effect? Maybe, maybe not. If it has an effect in my mind then it was worth it.

    I'm probably 16% now, roughly. I'm only looking to get to 12%, not 8%. I just hold all of my fat in my lower back/love -handle area. Hoping that all of the write-ups on receptors are correct when it comes to the Y.
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    Originally Posted by Znik View Post
    Seems to me nearly everyone is on Y in here atm , apart from me. Almost tempted to start on them again just to be with the crowd
    I'm on EC.
    Lame I know.

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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    ty for the write up.

    I'm probably 16% now, roughly. I'm only looking to get to 12%, not 8%. I just hold all of my fat in my lower back/love -handle area. Hoping that all of the write-ups on receptors are correct when it comes to the Y.
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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    ty for the write up. This is exactly how I feel. Will it have an effect? Maybe, maybe not. If it has an effect in my mind then it was worth it.

    I'm probably 16% now, roughly. I'm only looking to get to 12%, not 8%. I just hold all of my fat in my lower back/love -handle area. Hoping that all of the write-ups on receptors are correct when it comes to the Y.
    Pointless unless you're lean, IMO. It's way way too easy to lose at 16%. Get to 12 and then use it. I'm probably 12-14 right now and I'm not using it. EC until I get lean.

    Then again, Y is expensive as fuk and hard to find up here.
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    Originally Posted by Ammex View Post
    Pointless unless you're lean, IMO. It's way way too easy to lose at 16%. Get to 12 and then use it. I'm probably 12-14 right now and I'm not using it. EC until I get lean.

    Then again, Y is expensive as fuk and hard to find up here.
    :/. Yeah, i think i remember lyle saying that too.

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    Stubborn

    legit Maybe/maybe not.

    "holy-crap-what-am-doing?!" sensation
    Way off topic but I wanted to break in and tell you that I saw your account of what happened in your lap, lol. It looks like you saved the best part for la- never again, though. You ended with a reference to an even more cringe-worthy encounter! I have a similar story but I'll save it for another time.

    ...

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    Originally Posted by Ammex View Post
    Pointless unless you're lean, IMO. It's way way too easy to lose at 16%. Get to 12 and then use it. I'm probably 12-14 right now and I'm not using it. EC until I get lean.

    Then again, Y is expensive as fuk and hard to find up here.
    Yeah, yohimbine seems to be pretty pointless until you get really lean and actually struggle to lose the fat (stubborn fat) but doing 2 weeks cycles with yohimbine could be beneficial as the increased heart rate at the start of yohimbine seems to raise your bmr, but the effect on bmr wears off after a week or two.
    If you are losing fat at a normal rate 1-2lbs a week, there is not really any need for it. Atleast thats what I have understood of it.
    It could maybe be useful to drop fat in those hard to lose places instead of other places tho, if you want to drop belly/back fat etc. instead of having that go last. Shouldnt have any effect on total fat loss but could enable you to lean out in those hard to drop places faster while sacrificing fat loss in other places.

    Then again all this is just theoretical since there are so few studies on it, what works in theory is not always correct in real life.

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    Originally Posted by Ammex View Post
    Pointless unless you're lean, IMO. It's way way too easy to lose at 16%. Get to 12 and then use it. I'm probably 12-14 right now and I'm not using it. EC until I get lean.

    Then again, Y is expensive as fuk and hard to find up here.
    Gotcha. I'm gonna try it. Can't hurt and it was $15 shipped to my house.
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    While on the supps stuff, probably been asked a thousand times. But what pwo have you guys found works best ? Taking a trip to Poland soon and hoping to pick up some (since 99% of the stuff is illegal to sell here, but you can buy for personal use in other countries of EU) So gonna fill a bag with supps
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    While on the supps stuff, probably been asked a thousand times. But what pwo have you guys found works best ? Taking a trip to Poland soon and hoping to pick up some (since 99% of the stuff is illegal to sell here, but you can buy for personal use in other countries of EU) So gonna fill a bag with supps
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    Originally Posted by Znik View Post
    Seems to me nearly everyone is on Y in here atm , apart from me. Almost tempted to start on them again just to be with the crowd
    >tried it
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    >third replacement heart this week
    >will do anything for dem love handles
    There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?

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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    >tried it
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    Thats what happens when u start with full dose on day 1

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    Originally Posted by earthshieldlol View Post
    craze > original jack3d > everything else
    craze was garbage imo

    and i'm not saying that just because it's you. i tried 2 free samples and was disappointed in both.
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    Originally Posted by Znik View Post
    While on the supps stuff, probably been asked a thousand times. But what pwo have you guys found works best ? Taking a trip to Poland soon and hoping to pick up some (since 99% of the stuff is illegal to sell here, but you can buy for personal use in other countries of EU) So gonna fill a bag with supps
    I still use white flood, 1 or 2 or 3 scoops depending on time of day workout is, early morning cardio gets two, early morning weights gets 2-3 afternoon weights gets 1-2 depending on what day it is.
    started 337 April 17 2012

    I am not losing weight, I only eat 1750 cals a day, but am gain wait; wut do?
    but do I even lift?
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    Originally Posted by bullrider_IL View Post
    make post in misc about amazon prime free, tell people straight up that I get $10 credit (found out last night my hours are cut down to 10hr/week at work for no apparent reason), which I plan to use to buy dog food, chicken, etc. Got negged because someone said I was asking for a handout. WTF. This is why I don't misc
    stop slackin off at work maybe they won't cut your hours
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    >tried it
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    Anything you say?

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    Originally Posted by moore93 View Post
    Anything you say?
    Moore's looking for a new workout partner for couples day at....


































    .....I can't do it anymore.

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    Originally Posted by krete77 View Post
    craze was garbage imo

    and i'm not saying that just because it's you. i tried 2 free samples and was disappointed in both.
    made me feel like a god first few times i used it. not as much now that ive been using it a month or so but it's still good. prolly gonna start doing a week of craze, week of jack3d, week of craze, etc when i cut for better results. i use 2 scoops which is prolly stupid but idgaf.
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    Originally Posted by earthshieldlol View Post
    made me feel like a god first few times i used it. not as much now that ive been using it a month or so but it's still good. prolly gonna start doing a week of craze, week of jack3d, week of craze, etc when i cut for better results. i use 2 scoops which is prolly stupid but idgaf.
    I alternate between PWOs myself. I use Animal RAGE and C4 Cellucor. I've been using 1 scoop for just about a year. Since I'm only hittin the gym 1-3x a week, it always hits me hard when I take it.
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