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    Alot of ppl might lie about how they achieved their physiques but MANY are natty as well. I see it as cheating straight up and hate to see it from someone I used to admire. Never impressed when people have to resort to that chit.

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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    Alot of ppl might lie about how they achieved their physiques but MANY are natty as well. I see it as cheating straight up and hate to see it from someone I used to admire. Never impressed when people have to resort to that chit.
    Seriously, though how is it cheating unless it's competing in a league that forbids it? Is he in a transformation contest or something?

    If any supplement actually works remotely as manufacturer's advertise, isn't that pretty much cheating?

    I have to give BR props for actually making it apparent he isn't natty, in as much of a way that this forum allows. By the time "Murray State" was getting thrown out, it was pretty obvious.

    I like my liver, and not having to risk going to jail just to keep my nards working following a supplement cycle, and would cry if i gots the gyno, and that's why I wouldn't use it. But really, I don't see what the difference is between say Hydroxy Cut Hardcore Xtreme and a PH/DS or the real thing. One just works a whole lot better at what it does.

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    Originally Posted by earthshieldlol View Post
    i always knew you weren't the brightest star in the sky but never thought you were a complete stupid ass. that's some pretty disappointing chit man. i don't know why people feel the need to distort their bodies and cheat like that. what do you gain other than a false sense of self-worth? if you had a genuine sense of self-worth you wouldn't feel the need to do that in the first place. but whatever, to each his own. mad respect lost bro.
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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    Alot of ppl might lie about how they achieved their physiques but MANY are natty as well. I see it as cheating straight up and hate to see it from someone I used to admire. Never impressed when people have to resort to that chit.
    all i hear is blah blah blah.
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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    But really, I don't see what the difference is between say Hydroxy Cut Hardcore Xtreme and a PH/DS or the real thing. One just works a whole lot better at what it does.
    Quite the understatement.

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    Seriously, though how is it cheating unless it's competing in a league that forbids it? Is he in a transformation contest or something?

    If any supplement actually works remotely as manufacturer's advertise, isn't that pretty much cheating?

    I have to give BR props for actually making it apparent he isn't natty, in as much of a way that this forum allows. By the time "Murray State" was getting thrown out, it was pretty obvious.

    I like my liver, and not having to risk going to jail just to keep my nards working following a supplement cycle, and would cry if i gots the gyno, and that's why I wouldn't use it. But really, I don't see what the difference is between say Hydroxy Cut Hardcore Xtreme and a PH/DS or the real thing. One just works a whole lot better at what it does.
    I agree...and I like my liver to.
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    all i hear is blah blah blah.
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    mabe. just search krete77. i'm on there at 11pm usually.

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    Seriously, though how is it cheating unless it's competing in a league that forbids it? Is he in a transformation contest or something?

    If any supplement actually works remotely as manufacturer's advertise, isn't that pretty much cheating?

    I have to give BR props for actually making it apparent he isn't natty, in as much of a way that this forum allows. By the time "Murray State" was getting thrown out, it was pretty obvious.

    I like my liver, and not having to risk going to jail just to keep my nards working following a supplement cycle, and would cry if i gots the gyno, and that's why I wouldn't use it. But really, I don't see what the difference is between say Hydroxy Cut Hardcore Xtreme and a PH/DS or the real thing. One just works a whole lot better at what it does.
    Thank you.

    Also-I am being as cautious as possible. BP taken EOD, as much liver supports as affordable, and have stuff on hand to take care of gyno, however the stuff I'm running right now doesn't aromatize to estrogen, so gyno won't happen unless I have a major estrogen rebound in PCT.

    Not sure what you mean about going to jail to reboot?

    I will also say this:

    I have said numerous times in the chat threads that I want to get on stage. Why would I get on stage with a bunch of guys who are on all kinds of stuff, when my physique would be no where near that level until my 30s? Not like I"m shooting stuff in my ass or anything, just eating some pills and going on about my day.

    Also, 4k cals a day is awesome too. I love my macros ATM. 300p/400c/100f (roughly)

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    Originally Posted by krete77 View Post
    mabe. just search krete77. i'm on there at 11pm usually.

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    Originally Posted by Ammex View Post
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    Agreed. I said to PM me in the first place. Only reason I'm posting here is because I don't feel like getting called out and ignoring it.

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    Who is the fat dude in bullrider's avatar?

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    I kind of miss that stitch guy. He was a kinder, gentler Canadian.










    But I'm guessing now he's probably weighing in at about tree-fitty.

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    I kind of miss that stitch guy. He was a kinder, gentler Canadian.

    But I'm guessing now he's probably weighing in at about tree-fitty.
    he was last on the forum yesterday, i hope he shows everyone wrong and bulked correctly or finished cutting
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    Originally Posted by earthshieldlol View Post
    i always knew you weren't the brightest star in the sky but never thought you were a complete stupid ass. that's some pretty disappointing chit man. i don't know why people feel the need to distort their bodies and cheat like that. what do you gain other than a false sense of self-worth? if you had a genuine sense of self-worth you wouldn't feel the need to do that in the first place. but whatever, to each his own. mad respect lost bro.
    Teeeheeheheheheheeeheeheheheohooohoohohohooh.

    How's it cheating if there's no competition.

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    he was last on the forum yesterday, i hope he shows everyone wrong and bulked correctly or finished cutting
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    he was last on the forum yesterday, i hope he shows everyone wrong and bulked correctly or finished cutting
    Don't get me wrong, I hope so too. Despite his notable binges, he had come a long, long way.

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I hope so too. Despite his notable binges, he had come a long, long way.
    I have a feeling he turned 540 degrees and went all the way back too.

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    Originally Posted by moore93 View Post
    I have a feeling he turned 540 degrees and went all the way back too.
    I had to pause for a moment and think about this one. Got it : DDDD
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    Originally Posted by krete77 View Post
    oh hey ****ot. hows your ****otry life been? still ****gin' around? thought so.
    ur fat though (no srs tag needed)

    btw I weighed in at 203 yesterday

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    Originally Posted by BradKemp View Post
    ur fat though (no srs tag needed)

    btw I weighed in at 203 yesterday
    You still logging in the miles and afterburn on the treadmill?

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    Originally Posted by krete77 View Post
    You're a *******. Why do u even care?
    Come at me bro
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    Originally Posted by earthshieldlol View Post
    Come at me bro
    A little late to the party there brah
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    Originally Posted by BradKemp View Post
    ur fat though (no srs tag needed)

    btw I weighed in at 203 yesterday
    yea where was ur weigh in *******. u still in the comp
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    Originally Posted by krete77 View Post
    A little late to the party there brah
    Was busy getting my dick wet (srs)
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