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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    3 weeks of bulking left. bodyfat %?




    be gentle
    Not high enough, extend bulk another 6 months.

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    Go on..
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    3 weeks of bulking left. bodyfat %?




    be gentle
    Difference between pre-bulk and post bulk pics: None.
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    Serp has low testosterone.

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    Originally Posted by Ammex View Post
    Difference between pre-bulk and post bulk pics: None.
    i am near the same composition but 16 pounds heavier. before pics are just the end of my last cut

    Originally Posted by moore93 View Post
    Serp has low testosterone.
    you swallowed my testosterone baby
    There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?

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    My new foster dog, 2 years old. <3
    She looks precious! The feeling of taking a dog from a bad situation and showering them with love is incredible . have you decided what to name her yet?

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    She looks precious! The feeling of taking a dog from a bad situation and showering them with love is incredible . have you decided what to name her yet?
    It is the best! She is the happiest dog. Her name is Ivy.
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    you swallowed my testosterone baby
    Go get a test done you big *******. Seriously.

    They cost like 3 cents.

    That 16 pounds and slightly fatter composition could have been 25 pounds with a chance of staying the same body fat. (semi-srs maybe not that srs but kinda srs)

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    Originally Posted by moore93 View Post
    Go get a test done you big *******. Seriously.

    They cost like 3 cents.
    all it would do it tell you your levels, that does me no good.
    There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?

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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    all it would do it tell you your levels, that does me no good.
    Uhh... it tells you your levels so you can fix it and work towards finding out what's wrong instead of never knowing and suffering for eternity.

    Why are you being dumb with me.

    I swear you have low testosterone or something, your results just completely suck. I'm not even hating I'm just being serious.

    I got the same results as you sitting on my ass for two months and going from cutting and bulking every other day. (With low test)

    (OK NOT SRS, but SRSLY.) I'm happy you can squat a lot but where is that hypertrophy? There is none.
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    I have a hard time believing a 170 lb guy with a ~3500 TDEE has low test. Gaining 10 lbs of lbm or so, if true, is an awesome bulk for an average-sized adult.

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    Originally Posted by LegallyBlondee View Post
    It is the best! She is the happiest dog. Her name is Ivy.

    That is a cute name...took me forever to think of one. Finally decided on ' jada' a couple days ago.



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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    I have a hard time believing a 170 lb guy with a ~3500 TDEE has low test. Gaining 10 lbs of lbm or so, if true, is an awesome bulk for an average-sized adult.
    Where did the 16 pounds go? His balls because they produce so much test?

    Because I don't see jack sh*t other than a slightly larger bicep.

    I'd be f*cking pissed if I worked as hard as Serp and got his results.

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    Serp just doesn't eat enough and never did hypertrophy.
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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    I have a hard time believing a 170 lb guy with a ~3500 TDEE has low test.
    Thyroid hormone production =/= testosterone production.

    Serp:
    Hyperthyroidism
    Hypogonadism
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    Exact opposite of what you want when trying to build muscle.

    Brb, 158 pound DYEL 20 year old telling you guys the business.
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    itt moore has been talking about lifting for months on end.
    Now I get to finally do it. : DDDDDDDDDDD

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    Originally Posted by moore93 View Post
    Uhh... it tells you your levels so you can fix it and work towards finding out what's wrong instead of never knowing and suffering for eternity.

    Why are you being dumb with me.

    I swear you have low testosterone or something, your results just completely suck. I'm not even hating I'm just being serious.

    I got the same results as you sitting on my ass for two months and going from cutting and bulking every other day. (With low test)

    (OK NOT SRS, but SRSLY.) I'm happy you can squat a lot but where is that hypertrophy? There is none.

    If my test levels were low (everything points in the other way) what would i do to fix them? Keep in mind the only variables are food, sleep, and lifting, no doctor visits, nothing extra aside from those three things.

    everyone grows differently, everything that has grown has done so in proportion. Also some guys are just strong and small, some guys are weak and big...genetics is everything and how it grows.
    There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?

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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    what would i do to fix them?
    Medication.

    You could just have hyperthyroidism that's killing your muscle growth hence the ridiculous TDEE. I really don't think your genetics are to blame as to why you can't get a juicy upper body.

    Protip: Things like hair growth, male pattern baldness, deep voice, masculine characteristics, have nothing to do with your test levels as I'm living proof. (At least not once you've already developed them)

    My libido wasn't gone, however it was only limited to being horned up 1-2 a week. I could also maintain an erection it's just that it was 85-90% stiff instead of steel pipe stiff.

    I wouldn't just shove the possibility under the rug.

    There's no harm in getting the test just to know. Whatever you do with that information is entirely up to you and I couldn't give nine f*cks. I'm just trying to help you but what has been said has already been said and I'm not saying it again, so do whatever you want to do.
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    Originally Posted by moore93 View Post
    Medication.

    You could just have hyperthyroidism that's killing your muscle growth hence the ridiculous TDEE. I really don't think your genetics are to blame as to why you can't get a juicy upper body.

    Protip: Things like hair growth, male pattern baldness, deep voice, masculine characteristics, have nothing to do with your test levels as I'm living proof.

    My libido wasn't gone, however it was only limited to being horned up 1-2 a week. I could also maintain an erection it's just that it was 85-90% stiff instead of steel pipe stiff.

    I wouldn't just shove the possibility under the rug.

    There's no harm in getting the test just to know. Whatever you do with that information is entirely up to you and I couldn't give nine f*cks. I'm just trying to help you but what has been said has already been said and I'm not saying it again, so do whatever you want to do.

    well i know that, but im saying i wouldnt get anything given by a doctor because i wouldnt see a doctor in the first place which was why i mentioned the only things i would change are food, sleep, and routine. I already sleep 8 hours, thats taken care of. Food is in check, and i lift as hard as i can

    tfw every guy in my family tree has all of their hair even at really old age. No baldness here.

    i dont have insurance so i cant see a doctor, but wouldnt see one for this problem. I dont care what others do but if someone had low test or ED then they should deal with what they were given.
    There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?

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    but if someone had low test or ED then they should deal with what they were given.
    I wan't to believe that's a troll statement, but I know it's not.

    And that disappoints me.

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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    I dont care what others do but if someone had low test or ED then they should deal with what they were given.
    Would this extend to say corrective eyewear or prosthetic limbs?

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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    Would this extend to say corrective eyewear or prosthetic limbs?
    lol, only guys who have corrective surgery for their shortcomings. You need vision and your limbs, the chronic fapper or the lazy fatass who doesnt exercise and wonders why his wang doesnt work doesnt really deserve "treatment" for the problem they have. probably 99% of the cases in the general population for that and low test is solely from their environment (poor diet, zero exercise).
    Id bet under a long surplus moores whatever levels will skyrocket. Not just the short maintenance break or whatever that was recent, he clearly lost a lot of weight and it DID impact his hormone levels. Even bb'ers that say they got down to 3-4% bodyfat say their sex drive and mood sometimes didnt come back for a couple of months. I was reading a post from a few years back, dude was prepping for a show and was a week out, said his woman was giving the little guy CPR for 20 minutes and nothing happened.
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    said his woman was giving the little guy CPR for 20 minutes and nothing happened.
    I cut for quite awhile on extremely low fat and it messed with me pretty good. I was dating some wicked hot girls and really didn't care if we had sex or not. When we did I could literally go forever, maybe not even get off. Took a few months in a very high fat surplus to get everything back to normal.
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