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    Originally Posted by Znik View Post
    The science mumbo jumbo part of it: Yohimbine acts upon the adrenergic receptor system of fat cells, which regulate thermogenesis. The beta-subunits of the adrenergic receptors (targets of Ephedrine) can be seen as stimulatory for fat loss as they increase the activity of the enzyme Adenyl Cyclase and subsequently cAMP levels (mainly via the b1 and b2 subunits; with b3 being less active in humans).[67][68] The alpha-subunits are more suppressive of fat metabolism, in which their activation reduces activity of Adenyl Cyclase and reduces cAMP levels (specifically alpha-2). Yohimbine is a selective alpha-2 adrenergic receptor antagonist (inactivator) which inhibits activation of the suppressive set of receptors and preserves Adenyl Cyclase activity and the effects mediated via the beta receptors.

    It basiclys makes you able to mobilizes the stubborn fat deposits as cnh said, does little effect on actual burning fat (gotta do that yourself by cardio etc.) but it supposedly helps get rid of fat in those hard to drop places that has high alpha receptors (blocks fat mobilization) but lets beta receptors do their work (boosts fat mobilization), like lower back and gut for men , hip/butt/thigh etc. for women. The initial heart rate increase (usually first 2 weeks) can boost metabolism slightly.

    As for the effect of it the studies are not that numerous or great, for me i'd say it worked but if its down to low bf other places or the yohimbine is a unanswered question.
    http://examine.com/supplements/Yohimbine/ has a somewhat detailed look into it.
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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    I've perused that site before. There's a ton of info there. Do you by chance know which article he talks about y? His articles are long and I'm not sure which one to click? (srs)
    http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=4076

    It is not a stack that you take continuously like ec. From what I've read, you only take it in a fasted state, ~30 min before LISS cardio. Any sort of raise in insulin will counteract the effectiveness of the y, hence taking it in a fasted state.

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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=4076

    It is not a stack that you take continuously like ec. From what I've read, you only take it in a fasted state, ~30 min before LISS cardio. Any sort of raise in insulin will counteract the effectiveness of the y, hence taking it in a fasted state.
    Originally Posted by Lyle
    Q: What's the effective dose of yohimbine?

    0.2 mg/kg bodyweight taken with caffeine 30-60 minutes before fasted cardio. So a 70 kg (154 lb) individual would take 14 mg. Since the pills are only available in 2.5 mg doses, the individuals would take 6 of them, getting 15 mg total.
    damn son. brb, taking 7 pills before workout.
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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    damn son. brb, taking 7 pills before workout.
    Hmm the pills I got are 5mg, maybe they are allowed larger doses on prescription yohimbine, think ill have to order it abroad next time if its that cheap (10 dollar) cost me like 60 dollars at the pharmacy here.

    brb have to drive to doctor to get a note saying im allowed to take in yohimbine and its for personal use
    brb have to fight customs that im allowed to order it and show em note from doctor
    brb getting jailed for importing "illegal" drugs (yohimbine)

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    Yumm, breakfast for champions. Nice thick omelette with red pepper,cheese,thinly sliced sausage,spices and tomatoes (think omelette pizza hybrid).
    Seriously good stuff!

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    Is yohimbe extract lesser in strength? Im getting 56.3 mg twice a day...

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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    Is yohimbe extract lesser in strength? Im getting 56.3 mg twice a day...
    Originally Posted by Lyle
    Q: I bought a herbal form of yohimbe that says it contains 1200 mg which is 10X what you say I should be taking. What's going on?

    Of that 1200 mg bark, only a small percentage is actually yohimbine. So if it were standardized to 0.2% yohimbe alkaloids, each pill would contain 1200 mg * 0.002 = 2.4 mg active ingredient.
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    EDIT: Not sure exactly what you're taking, but this was the closest to your question
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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    Is yohimbe extract lesser in strength? Im getting 56.3 mg twice a day...
    i told you already, you have an extremely severe case of gyno that not even yohimbine can help
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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    see above



    EDIT: Not sure exactly what you're taking, but this was the closest to your question
    Thanks....am taking hydroxycut hardcore. Guess I need to do some research....just sucks doing it on phone.

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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    i told you already, you have an extremely severe case of gyno that not even yohimbine can help
    Lmao!

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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    Thanks....am taking hydroxycut hardcore. Guess I need to do some research....just sucks doing it on phone.
    Pretty hard to find actual information from their yohimbine blend. But heres what I found atleast:
    Lasidrate Delivery Blend: 55mg
    -Troxerutin (as Sophpra japonica)
    -Inositol hexaphosphate
    -Cnidium monnieri extract (seed)
    -Black pepper extract (fruit)
    Yohimacore Yohimbine Blend: 4.5mg
    -Methyl 17 alpha-hydroxy-yohiman-16alpha-carboxylat… hydrochloride

    So seems to only be 4.5mg of actual yohimbine per serving.

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    Is it just me that doesn't like sugar free soda being called diet? Because then when you order one people ask if you are on a diet and start trying to give you advice. I'm normally polite and pretend to be interested in what they are saying but I feel like just telling them to f**k off. Why can't they have good names like Pepsi Max.
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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    Is it just me that doesn't like sugar free soda being called diet? Because then when you order one people ask if you are on a diet and start trying to give you advice. I'm normally polite and pretend to be interested in what they are saying but I feel like just telling them to f**k off. Why can't they have good names like Pepsi Max.
    dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    Is it just me that doesn't like sugar free soda being called diet? Because then when you order one people ask if you are on a diet and start trying to give you advice. I'm normally polite and pretend to be interested in what they are saying but I feel like just telling them to f**k off. Why can't they have good names like Pepsi Max.
    Yeah I had the same problem. Now that I am looking better than people that try to do it, I can ask them how their advice is working out for them :P

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    dumbest thing I've ever heard.

    who the hell cares what its called
    Me, I thought I made that abundantly clear...

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to cunfewzed again.

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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    Me, I thought I made that abundantly clear...

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    do you get the "furrowed brow" thing yet?
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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    Me, I thought I made that abundantly clear...

    Edit: And aclockworkoi
    I mostly care about skinnyfat people trying to give me advice :P

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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    do you get the "furrowed brow" thing yet?
    I do see where you're coming from.


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    I mostly care about skinnyfat people trying to give me advice :P
    That's the thing I care about, it's just that right now I'm fatter than the people trying to give me advice Soon.
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    Yep, called the wife.
    Worst person to be around when cutting, she probably ate same calories for lunch as I did for a whole day while cutting. And then eat dinner,chocolate my baking etc. when she comes home while gulping it down with regular coca cola. Seriously do not understand how she dont get fat, she dont exercise much (if any apart from in the bedroom) and is Lazy!
    And whenever she has been eating ALOT when I was cutting I always tried to catch her on the scale with it going up, but no... either goes down or stays the same. Made me want to scream at her when I was at the end of cutting working my ass off trying to shred the fat, while she just sits there binging

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    Originally Posted by Znik View Post
    Pretty hard to find actual information from their yohimbine blend. But heres what I found atleast:
    Lasidrate Delivery Blend: 55mg
    -Troxerutin (as Sophpra japonica)
    -Inositol hexaphosphate
    -Cnidium monnieri extract (seed)
    -Black pepper extract (fruit)
    Yohimacore Yohimbine Blend: 4.5mg
    -Methyl 17 alpha-hydroxy-yohiman-16alpha-carboxylat… hydrochloride

    So seems to only be 4.5mg of actual yohimbine per serving.
    much appreciated zink.... I take 2 servings a day but it looks like it is still under the amount for my body weight. oh well Hydroxycut is worth it just for the appetite suppression and energy alone I guess.

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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    much appreciated zink.... I take 2 servings a day but it looks like it is still under the amount for my body weight. oh well Hydroxycut is worth it just for the appetite suppression and energy alone I guess.
    I'm finishing up a bottle that I've had for a while. I take two in the morning before my workout. Don't take any in the afternoon. I'm still hungry as fawk. Doesn't do a thing for me on this front.
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    I mostly care about skinnyfat people trying to give me advice :P
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    Originally Posted by cunfewzed View Post
    I'm finishing up a bottle that I've had for a while. I take two in the morning before my workout. Don't take any in the afternoon. I'm still hungry as fawk. Doesn't do a thing for me on this front.
    which 1 are you taking? hardcore elite is the only 1 that is really effective for me. also it's kinda pointless if you don't take the suggested dosing....

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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    much appreciated zink.... I take 2 servings a day but it looks like it is still under the amount for my body weight. oh well Hydroxycut is worth it just for the appetite suppression and energy alone I guess.
    Np, but why do most americans see my name as Zink and not Znik ? Has this problem for years

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    Originally Posted by Znik View Post
    Yep, called the wife.
    Worst person to be around when cutting, she probably ate same calories for lunch as I did for a whole day while cutting. And then eat dinner,chocolate my baking etc. when she comes home while gulping it down with regular coca cola. Seriously do not understand how she dont get fat, she dont exercise much (if any apart from in the bedroom) and is Lazy!
    And whenever she has been eating ALOT when I was cutting I always tried to catch her on the scale with it going up, but no... either goes down or stays the same. Made me want to scream at her when I was at the end of cutting working my ass off trying to shred the fat, while she just sits there binging
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    Originally Posted by missladyj View Post
    which 1 are you taking? hardcore elite is the only 1 that is really effective for me. also it's kinda pointless if you don't take the suggested dosing....
    idk which one. there's so many different kinds.

    Originally Posted by Zink
    Np, but why do most americans see my name as Zink and not Znik ? Has this problem for years
    it works phonetically with our language. Znik does not
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