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    OP, how do you train traps and side delts? ?
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    Originally Posted by NaturalDOTrus View Post
    Mirin HARD!!!!!!! So jelly. Great job.
    Thanks.
    Originally Posted by corvade View Post
    Simply Jaw Dropping.


    OP, how do you train traps and side delts? ?
    I personally don't train traps all too often anymore as they quickly overpower everything/grow too fast on my build.. now I just work them if I notice one being large than the other to balance them out really.
    My recommendations/favorites..
    Traps:
    -Rack Pull + shrug, let the bar sit on the safety bars/pause between reps for a second or two.. pause at the top. Heavy weight
    -DB Shrugs leaning forward as to get a better stretch. High Reps
    Never really needed more than those two when done right
    Lateral Delts:
    -Seated DB Lateral Raises
    -ExtraWide Grip upright rows
    -Cable Lateral Raises
    -Heavy OH Pressing.
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    Originally Posted by Shredthetics View Post
    Honestly for 8 months those lifts are pretty low(unless in kg's?) bro.
    What have you been doing for the past 8 months diet-wise?
    Those were in lbs
    My previous lifts were

    Squat 115lbs 3x5

    Bench 75lbs 3x5

    Deadlift 90lbs 1x5

    So it took me a while to build up strength, I had no muscle memory, no CNS training, no proper diet, just a lazy ass skinny gamer.

    Diet wise right now I eat anything and at the end of the day/ after a workout I drink a shake that fills my macros in 1600 calories ~100gs of protein ~160Gs carbs (I also get macros from regular food) Mostly I eat chicken, eggs, whole milk beans and rice.

    Also, i'm trying to be a bodybuilder such as yourself, not a powerlifter, however I do want to get my strength up an intermediate level and then focus on my aesthetics. Im not sure if that's pointless, but I guess you could give me tips on that aswell.

    I appreciate the effort you put to help newbies like me, thanks.
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    OP did I rustle your jimmies? Lol'd at neg.

    There's nothing wrong with what you do, I just don't like it when people get the wrong idea.
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    Originally Posted by ProteinShred View Post
    Squat 115lbs 3x5
    Bench 75lbs 3x5
    Deadlift 90lbs 1x5
    So it took me a while to build up strength, I had no muscle memory, no CNS training, no proper diet, just a lazy ass skinny gamer.
    Diet wise right now I eat anything and at the end of the day/ after a workout I drink a shake that fills my macros in 1600 calories ~100gs of protein ~160Gs carbs (I also get macros from regular food) Mostly I eat chicken, eggs, whole milk beans and rice.

    Also, i'm trying to be a bodybuilder such as yourself, not a powerlifter, however I do want to get my strength up an intermediate level and then focus on my aesthetics. Im not sure if that's pointless, but I guess you could give me tips on that aswell.

    I appreciate the effort you put to help newbies like me, thanks.
    You could have made better progress during that time imo..
    "noob gains" is the peroid in which straight up linear progress is commen at the start of lifting.. you said 8 months(32 weeks?), a lot of nattys add 5lb a week onto their lifts.. meaning many of them would of added 100+lb's during those months(possible but not 100% expected).

    Aside from the "eat anything" comment, your diet seems relatively fine from a vague standpoint.
    Your goal of getting your strength up a tad before focusing on hypertophy is a good plan.
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    HOLY CRAP


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    Holy Sh*t you look amazing, good luck!
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    holy sh*t, good job!
    hahha thank's for the kind words bros.
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    OP did I rustle your jimmies? Lol'd at neg.

    There's nothing wrong with what you do, I just don't like it when people get the wrong idea.
    I'll continue to neg you if you continue to imply drug use and my physique as unobtainable natural while I have natural friends the same age who dwarf me with an extra 10-15lb LBM on their builds.

    Wrong idea?
    The only wrong idea is created by people like you who go around telling people what they can't do.
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    OT: have you always had that vascularity in your arms/shoulders/chest area? Or its a low BF% thing?

    I only seem to have veins in my forearms and Calves, though at 13% BF
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    Originally Posted by CallMeSkinny View Post
    OT: have you always had that vascularity in your arms/shoulders/chest area? Or its a low BF% thing?

    I only seem to have veins in my forearms and Calves, though at 13% BF
    I've always been vascular yes, however it has become more prominent with the longer I lift & how lean I get.
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    Originally Posted by Shredthetics View Post
    I've always been vascular yes, however it has become more prominent with the longer I lift & how lean I get.
    thanks.
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    OP is a super helpful beast. Would rep if my reps didn't suck.

    OP, during your extrawide upright rows, do you retract your shoulder blades?
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    Originally Posted by Shredthetics View Post

    I'll continue to neg you if you continue to imply drug use and my physique as unobtainable natural while I have natural friends the same age who dwarf me with an extra 10-15lb LBM on their builds.

    Wrong idea?
    The only wrong idea is created by people like you who go around telling people what they can't do.
    lol op we all know your on cell tech. Im not hating on you for taking cell tech, but lets be honest no one can obtain that physique natty at the age of 18 let alone someone in there 20's.
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    op how much pussy u get in highschool?
    This was OP through first half of high school:

    And honestly not all too much, I'm more into having one HBB as my exclusive over random bishes. srs
    Originally Posted by corvade View Post
    OP is a super helpful beast. Would rep if my reps didn't suck.

    OP, during your extrawide upright rows, do you retract your shoulder blades?
    haha no worries brah, I enjoy giving out advice, since no one ever gave it to me when I started.

    Yes. I make sure to keep my shoulder blades retracted and only raising bar until elbows are parallel in my wide upright rows.
    I also usually do them for high reps as I want to avoid an injury which they are so common for.

    Originally Posted by jumpman18 View Post
    lol op we all know your on cell tech. Im not hating on you for taking cell tech, but lets be honest no one can obtain that physique natty at the age of 18 let alone someone in there 20's.
    I say natty and years of hard work, others say otherwise.
    People can honestly think whatever they want, everyone has their own opinion and is entitled to it.
    I made this thread to offer advice, so teens coming in to troll about their drug use-to-body composition ratios should be expected to be negged/ignored.
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    Don't listen to haters with insecurities bro keep doing ur thing. Honestly I wanna look like u no homo. I'm the same age as you and just the other day I starting giving up after not seeing any gains. Thanks for inspiring me again. Good luck on ur competition.
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    Im skinny as fuark, just starting lifting.

    How did you get the arms>? That's my main focus right now cause I can't stand mine anymore.....
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    I already said I'm not judging, and most people who use never get to that level anyway due to lack of dedication.

    Chill the **** out. I don't like giving people false hope for natural training. No one knows who you are on here.
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    Originally Posted by Shredthetics View Post
    You could have made better progress during that time imo..
    "noob gains" is the peroid in which straight up linear progress is commen at the start of lifting.. you said 8 months(32 weeks?), a lot of nattys add 5lb a week onto their lifts.. meaning many of them would of added 100+lb's during those months(possible but not 100% expected).

    Aside from the "eat anything" comment, your diet seems relatively fine from a vague standpoint.
    Your goal of getting your strength up a tad before focusing on hypertophy is a good plan.





    hahha thank's for the kind words bros.

    I'll continue to neg you if you continue to imply drug use and my physique as unobtainable natural while I have natural friends the same age who dwarf me with an extra 10-15lb LBM on their builds.

    Wrong idea?
    The only wrong idea is created by people like you who go around telling people what they can't do.
    Thanks for the great response, I ought to be paying you for this haha. You should consider becoming a personal trainer on your spare time. So I guess I will stick to babylover's SS mod routine until my lifts are deemed good, but what should I do for hypertophy? What program do you recommend I do for that?
    That is all I have to ask, so I won't bother you any further, thanks!

    Also, the reason my gains were probably slow was because when I was completely new to fitness, I didn't pay much attention to my diet. It was when I discovered the weight gainer shakes that everything changed and I started understanding diet. It probably took me 4-6 months to figure that out.
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    Hey bro good job with your physique. The hardest thing for me was is my diet. I just wanted to know what does your diet look like, and how many times you eat every hour, or can you give me a sample of what you eat it would really help me out thanks!
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    Originally Posted by saidaflyguy View Post
    Don't listen to haters with insecurities bro keep doing ur thing. Honestly I wanna look like u no homo. I'm the same age as you and just the other day I starting giving up after not seeing any gains. Thanks for inspiring me again. Good luck on ur competition.
    No problem brah, go hard.
    Times do get tough, you will get discouraged, but those are the moment which make or break us. Persevere and truly succeed.
    Originally Posted by NorthernPetrol View Post
    MIRIN HARD...
    Im skinny as fuark, just starting lifting.
    How did you get the arms>? That's my main focus right now cause I can't stand mine anymore.....
    I'd say the whole "Stick with heavy compounds if you want big arms" but that's not enough when you want them to be a strong point.
    Really what has worked for me is doing my normal heavy compounds then throwing in a couple sets of isolations after.. using a FULL range of motion.
    The hardest part of getting what I thought was a good ROM for the muscles was excise selection.
    For Triceps:
    -Overhead work(French press & DB extensions) so you can get a good stretch
    -Heavy Tricep dips(chest up, elbows close)
    For Biceps:
    -Single Arm Cable Curls(walk out a bit so your arm is pulled back)
    -Close Grip Preacher Curls.. this is my favorite bicep exercise
    Originally Posted by ProteinShred View Post
    Thanks for the great response, I ought to be paying you for this haha. You should consider becoming a personal trainer on your spare time. So I guess I will stick to babylover's SS mod routine until my lifts are deemed good, but what should I do for hypertophy? What program do you recommend I do for that?
    That is all I have to ask, so I won't bother you any further, thanks!
    I'm actually studying Corrective Exercise at the National Academy of Sports Medicine so I can do just that at the moment..
    That would be a good plan.
    Honestly hypertrophy routines vary greatly.. you can stick with a cookie-cutter routine, or tailor one to your own goals(which I recommend).
    For hypertrophy I recommend a split where you lift 4 ON/1 OFF and REPEAT.
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    Hey bro good job with your physique. The hardest thing for me was is my diet. I just wanted to know what does your diet look like, and how many times you eat every hour, or can you give me a sample of what you eat it would really help me out thanks!
    Diet is one of the hardest part.
    Me especially.. I love food.

    My Go-To foods:
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    hey OP i ride bmx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jBdf7a-pQ8

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    Originally Posted by douglasmich View Post
    hey OP i ride bmx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jBdf7a-pQ8

    btw MIRIN HARD, goal physique
    Daaaamn brah.
    I used to ride BMX(albeit flatland), the crashes in the beginning are the main reason I quit haha.
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    And im cutting aswell but im not sure og my maintenance, atm im cutting on 2500 calories im 6ft 17 year old and 184lbs. I train 5-6x per week
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    Whats your cycle like?
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    Originally Posted by Shredthetics View Post
    Daaaamn brah.
    I used to ride BMX(albeit flatland), the crashes in the beginning are the main reason I quit haha.
    ''did you see the flair at the end lolz
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