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    Originally Posted by PillClinton View Post
    would suck to dedicate your life to powerlifting (or whatever), become one of the best, only to have some "pansy" bodybuilder be able to perform at a professional level AND look good.
    You don;t know the circumstances though. How many sets did Poundstone do before that?

    Kai...still ridiculously impressive.
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    who cares, strongmen have to train for unconventional lifts as well as just regular lifting, unlike a bodybuilder whos focus for 20 years is the same lifts.
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    Originally Posted by babyslayer View Post
    derek trains for bodybuilding aswell, and he isnt a powerlifter, or anywhere near the strongest powerlifter in america muchless the world.

    derek trains strongman events and hes awesome at them, he cant compete with kai in bodybuilding and kai cant compete with him in strongman, but i can tell you derek is much stronger than kai is overall and he does it spending FAR less on drugs.

    and for the record, kai does train heavy, he just trains heavy for the higher rep ranges he uses and he often pre exhausts.

    we see kai going up to low rep sets with 500 on flat bench and incline, this is no different than powerlifting training. powerlifting training is very similar to bodybuilding they just care about the weight being used more than some bodybuilders do, but the rep ranges and exercises dont have to be much different at all.
    This. Still, when I look at guys like Poundstone or Pudzianoswki I can't help but think they are using far more Celltech than some of their peers too. Not trying to be a hater, but this mass must be much harder to retain when you stay this lean, compared to guys like Savickas and Shaw who don't seem to be overly concerned about their looks.

    Either way, both of them are ridiculously strong. Shows though, that the best bodybuilders are also amongst the strongest human beings walking this earth. Should be pretty obvious for anybody who has a brain, but many n00bs out there are still not aware.

    Imma be a cheeky kunt and say: I always thought Big Ron could have not only dominated bodybuilding for years, but also powerlifting if he had chosen to.
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    Originally Posted by flahexer View Post

    Imma be a cheeky kunt and say: I always thought Big Ron could have not only dominated bodybuilding for years, but also powerlifting if he had chosen to.
    700 lb front squats for reps in a crap suit while 5 weeks out from the olympia says you are probably right
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    Originally Posted by Daewoo_Lanos View Post
    700 lb front squats for reps in a crap suit while 5 weeks out from the olympia says you are probably right
    I thought he was a PL prior to being a BB?
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    Originally Posted by MrSilverback View Post
    I thought he was a PL prior to being a BB?
    he did, and like DL said, he would have been a very good PL'er if he had chosen to go that route. Probably best that he didn't as there is no money in powerlifting unless you're at the very top and you're sponsored and even then most of the top PL'ers who are sponsored don't live off of PL'ing. At best you're just a legend to a small group of people who follow powerlifting. Bodybuilding has a bigger fan base and is easier to understand.
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    I know its like comparing apples n oranges, and been debated a million times, but this clip of Ruhl blows my mind every time I see it. To lift that kind of weight over your head..smith machine or not, is beyond human.

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    Originally Posted by PaulNZack1 View Post


    Lol, so the first guy can press his own bodyweight, great ; )

    Jk, impressive, but kais lift at 4 weeks out is way more impressive...
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    both derek and kai are amazing athletes. i highly respect both individuals. both excel at numerous things, so we really cant judge who is better or stronger. both are beasts!
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    Originally Posted by MAX.MAREK View Post
    both derek and kai are amazing athletes. i highly respect both individuals. both excel at numerous things, so we really cant judge who is better or stronger. both are beasts!
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    I thought he was a PL prior to being a BB?
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    Originally Posted by Daewoo_Lanos View Post
    700 lb front squats for reps in a crap suit while 5 weeks out from the olympia says you are probably right
    He squats 800 for a double and that was the fist time he ever tried a suit. He front squats 585 for 4 reps and then 495 for 10 right after with a belt and knee wraps. The front squats are from his "The Unbelievable" DVD and will always be my favorite big Ron lift.
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    Originally Posted by masthead716 View Post
    He squats 800 for a double and that was the fist time he ever tried a suit. He front squats 585 for 4 reps and then 495 for 10 right after with a belt and knee wraps. The front squats are from his "The Unbelievable" DVD and will always be my favorite big Ron lift.
    Lifts without suits are that much more impressive

    I once 1rm 162.5kgs bicep curl without a suit, haven't tried curling with a suit but i could probably stack another 30-40kgs on
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    Originally Posted by purdey View Post
    Lifts without suits are that much more impressive

    I once 1rm 162.5kgs bicep curl without a suit, haven't tried curling with a suit but i could probably stack another 30-40kgs on
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    kai was more ba baracus than warrior monk in that
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    I sort of miss Kai's training videos with Oscar.

    His high rep training is clearly delivering results but there's something special about seeing this guy rep 5 plates on bench etc.
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    I would start watching strongman if they added benchpressing into the list of events.

    I seen britains strongest man recently and they were doing clean and jerk with some big ass weights. That was quite cool but yea they should throw a few powerlifting lifts in so us guys that train heavy can get a better grasp of how strong they really are.
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    Originally Posted by PEETcassidy View Post
    I would start watching strongman if they added benchpressing into the list of events.

    I seen britains strongest man recently and they were doing clean and jerk with some big ass weights. That was quite cool but yea they should throw a few powerlifting lifts in so us guys that train heavy can get a better grasp of how strong they really are.
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    Originally Posted by CytoRoc View Post
    kai ... is an.. Animal.

    its so funny how Kai says "i will never be a powerlifter", he works out with "lighter" weights than majority of bodybuilders, and in the end is the runner u...ahem.. 2012 Mr. Olympia and is stronger than a powerlifter

    guy is a beast, bar none the best guy out there
    He said that he used to lift heavy and switched to lighter later in his career. He said heavy shoulder pressing did wonders for his triceps but nothing much for his shoulders so he went lighter to be able to better feel the muscle working
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    Originally Posted by masthead716 View Post
    He squats 800 for a double and that was the fist time he ever tried a suit. He front squats 585 for 4 reps and then 495 for 10 right after with a belt and knee wraps. The front squats are from his "The Unbelievable" DVD and will always be my favorite big Ron lift.
    ok close enough. i thought it was 675 not 585. either way, the man had about a 2000 big 3 total while dieting for the olympia. if he was a fat happy powerlifter foreveroffseason, he couldve broken records and been one of the greatest ever.
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    Originally Posted by AnarkyLost View Post
    Thats what PL Meets are for.
    Obviously. I'm saying strongman would be more fun if they added a couple of powerlifting lifts as well as all the crazy ****. It would give us an idea of how strong these guys are compared to dedicated powerlifters.
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    damn kai.. why u always scare me with that suicide grip
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    Originally Posted by PEETcassidy View Post
    Obviously. I'm saying strongman would be more fun if they added a couple of powerlifting lifts as well as all the crazy ****. It would give us an idea of how strong these guys are compared to dedicated powerlifters.
    They usually have a squat, as well as a deadlift and an overhead press event in there. How much closer to Powerlifting do you want it, without actually becoming powerlifting? It's not that you should have a hard time to imagine their power when you see them press 200Kg+ straight over their head, without even using their legs and deadlift 400Kg for 20 reps.
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    Originally Posted by masthead716 View Post
    He squats 800 for a double and that was the fist time he ever tried a suit. He front squats 585 for 4 reps and then 495 for 10 right after with a belt and knee wraps. The front squats are from his "The Unbelievable" DVD and will always be my favorite big Ron lift.
    ronnies squats were really really high, same with his front squats

    incredibly strong, stronger than many "world class powerlifters", but ronnie trained for strength regardless of what anyone says, and took more gear than anyone youl probably ever see.

    ronnie was definitely really strong, but without huge amounts of growth hormone he would have ruined his joints and tendons from all the training, and if strength was his main focus he would have tore tons of muscles and tendons and joints and never reached his size potential or strength potential.

    powerlifters dont make $ off what they do, which is basically the truth with some exceptions, if there was as much $ in powerlifting as bodybuilding people would be lots of people making colemans squat/deadlift/bench look pathetic


    what everyone here sees is is what comes from EXTREME drug abuse over 20+ years of training with HEAVY weights, and then they think "hes just a bodybuilder can you imagine if he cared about how much he lifted?"

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    Originally Posted by flahexer View Post
    They usually have a squat, as well as a deadlift and an overhead press event in there. How much closer to Powerlifting do you want it, without actually becoming powerlifting? It's not that you should have a hard time to imagine their power when you see them press 200Kg+ straight over their head, without even using their legs and deadlift 400Kg for 20 reps.
    I'm not gawnny lie, I'm a bench press junkie. I know it's not necessarily the most important excercise but its the one where I'd like to see what these guys can throw up.
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    Kai looks like he's on a high incline

    That's just how it looks.

    Great lift though, regardless.
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