LOL at people who drive foreign cars. just LOL

[theculture]

you're gonna get 10 pages of ppl quoting horsepower numbers and zr1 lap times.

fact is, the 911 is the pinnacle of driving and everyone knows it but americans from the south

yep.. and i've never rode in a ZR1 or viper before, I imagine they are insane with the raw power.. but the finesse, style, and luxury of the porsche is something else.

but seeing that new Viper.. makes me hnnnnnnnnnnnnnng. Would be a tough decision because I believe it costs almost the same as a 911 turbo

[DrZeusss]

this might have something to do with it ******* op



http://news.consumerreports.org/cars...nues-fall.html

[metafour]

ITT: OP thinks that profits going to higher-up Suits is more important than real-world money going directly into the American economy.

[alphama1e]

yep.. and i've never rode in a ZR1 or viper before, I imagine they are insane with the raw power.. but the finesse, style, and luxury of the porsche is something else.

but seeing that new Viper.. makes me hnnnnnnnnnnnnnng. Would be a tough decision because I believe it costs almost the same as a 911 turbo

I never understood why people consider porches [ specifically the 911] luxury? is it just the badge? cus the interior is nothing special at all , the panamera or cayenne make sense as being considered luxury

[Brahlinski]

American cars cannot go around a corner (LOL).

[thefederalist]

yep.. and i've never rode in a ZR1 or viper before, I imagine they are insane with the raw power.. but the finesse, style, and luxury of the porsche is something else.

but seeing that new Viper.. makes me hnnnnnnnnnnnnnng. Would be a tough decision because I believe it costs almost the same as a 911 turbo

tbh, you're not getting that much luxury in a porsche. but that's what sets it apart from half-assed sports cars like aston and bentley. cars like porsche and lotus are about driving first.

it's an engineering marvel. to get a v6 to produce the power it does is unbelievable.

[alphama1e]

tbh, you're not getting that much luxury in a porsche. but that's what sets it apart from half-assed sports cars like aston and bentley. cars like porsche and lotus are about driving first.

it's an engineering marvel. to get a v6 to produce the power it does is unbelievable.

and enter....Nissan GTR , v6 540 HP ...also a porsche is a not V 6 , its an inline set up

[Apollo151]

ITT: op has no understanding of economics.

Those folks should've studied harder in school and got a better job if their jobs are so replaceable.

[Ratfish]

lol my Honda was made in Ohio.


your move OP

My Ford Fusion was made in Mexico....

[C411911]

The guy has registered troll under his name and half of you are still falling for it. Holy ****.

[smellydink]

The guy has registered troll under his name and half of you are still falling for it. Holy ****.

obvious troll was obvious but it's still funny to see OP get own'd hard in his own troll thread.

[thefederalist]

and enter....Nissan GTR , v6 540 HP ...also a porsche is a not V 6 , its an inline set up

stop quoting horsepower numbers. i'll just throw a v12 in my camry and stick my tongue out at you.

the 911 turbo s blows away all but 2 production cars on the planet in a drag race due to engine placement alone.

but you're right about the engine. only panamera and cayenne are V6

[qotsa1]

and enter....Nissan GTR , v6 540 HP ...also a porsche is a not V 6 , its an inline set up

Twin turbo vs a 6 der

[CreedBratton]

I'm sorry that I care more about buying quality products than I do about how you feel about our auto industry.

[N1ON]

Idk american cars are just better quality.

lol at ppl spending 50k+ on a BMW when you could get a Ford that has just as much "luxury" for half the cost lol

u w00t?

[alphama1e]

stop quoting horsepower numbers. i'll just throw a v12 in my camry and stick my tounge out at you.

the 911 turbo s blows away all but 2 production cars on the planet in a drag race due to engine placement alone.

but you're right about the engine. only panamera and cayenne are V6

LOL , you mentioned how the porsche is 'unbelievable' for making so much horsepower from a 6 cylinder , im not just quoting HP for the sake of it i was proving to you how its not the only car to have a 6 cylinder and make alot of hp and the 911 turbo s loses to more then 2 production cars in drag races , and the car it does beat is due to its light weight and rear weight bias, not its displacement or horsepower

[theculture]

tbh, you're not getting that much luxury in a porsche. but that's what sets it apart from half-assed sports cars like aston and bentley. cars like porsche and lotus are about driving first.

it's an engineering marvel. to get a v6 to produce the power it does is unbelievable.

yeah that's true, its not a luxury car.. but the build quality from the seats, stitching, and the way the door closes.. all top notch

this is a 2007 911




and yes the GT-R is a sick beast too.. it's basically an $80k supercar. Nissan did well.

[ukswimfanman]

hey dumbass, my tacoma is built by americans in san antonio. Also, since Toyota is publicly traded, Americans get a share of toyota's profits? You're just a phucking ignorant hick if you think buying foreign cars hurts our country

[JKLOL]

I like the quality of my IS300 TYVM.

[alphama1e]

I like the quality of my IS300 TYVM.

But your supporting kamikazes who flew planes into American war ships in WW2 , shame on you you Jap loving traitor , shame on you for not buying an inferior product to support big wig italian suit wearing GM CEOs

[DPBizzle]

stop quoting horsepower numbers. i'll just throw a v12 in my camry and stick my tounge out at you.

the 911 turbo s blows away all but 2 production cars on the planet in a drag race due to engine placement alone.

but you're right about the engine. only panamera and cayenne are V6

Why is 'tongue' the most difficult English word to spell, for any present-day adult??

I'm sorry that I care more about buying quality products than I do about how you feel about our auto industry.

/Thread.

[MasterShakeZula]

I never understood why people consider porches [ specifically the 911] luxury? is it just the badge? cus the interior is nothing special at all , the panamera or cayenne make sense as being considered luxury

Who considers it luxury? Its a driver's car that happens to have leather seats.

[Skeletor666]

i live in australia and have a EU car. Holden is a subsidiary of chevy, and ford is a subsidiary of GM. in conclusiong OP is a ******* who rides the bus

[thefederalist]

LOL , you mentioned how the porsche is 'unbelievable' for making so much horsepower from a 6 cylinder , im not just quoting HP for the sake of it i was proving to you how its not the only car to have a 6 cylinder and make alot of hp and the 911 turbo s loses to more then 2 production cars in drag races , and the car it does beat is due to its light weight , not its horsepower

GTR and Turbo comparison:

Motor Trend has been testing cars since 1949. And, don't you know it, these two are quicker.

The dragstrip king is the Porsche, which laid down a time of 10.9 seconds through the quarter mile at 127.4 mph. The "slower" GT-R did the deed in 11.1 seconds at 124.8 mph. Historically, that makes these two the -- surprise! -- third- and fourth-quickest cars we've ever tested. The almighty Veyron is still the champ (again, surprise!) with a silly time of 10.4 seconds at 139.9 mph, and the 691-hp Lamborghini Aventador is in second place with a time of 10.6 seconds at a blistering 133.9 mph.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2FLhto2w7

porsche doesn't beat other cars due to its light weight. it beats other cars because the rear engine placement creates incredible traction. no matter how much torque another car has, it can't match the effect of that engine sitting behind the rear axle

and power doesn't necessarily mean horsepower. average torque is a form of instantaneous power

[thefederalist]

Why is 'tongue' the most difficult English word to spell, for any present-day adult??

why is being an internet spelling nazi an immediate sign of a miserable *******?

[alphama1e]

GTR and Turbo comparison:





http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2FLhto2w7

porsche doesn't beat other cars due to its light weight. it beats other cars because the rear engine placement creates incredible traction. no matter how much torque another car has, it can't match the effect of that engine sitting behind the rear axle

and power doesn't necessarily mean horsepower. average torque is a form of instantaneous power

My post said weight and rear weight bias , i'm by no means saying the Porsche isin't fast , but has Motortrend raced it against a Saleen S7? , Ferarr 458?Corvette C6 Zr1? or howbout the SSC ultimate Aero?

[nate1913]

op really lacks factual knowledge.

op, there are three big name us companies in the auto industry, and only two are american owned. chrysler is now owned by fiat, and although they still have plants in canada and the us, a nice chunk of profits go back to italia and that ****gy little car company.

look at your choices of cars.
hundia
honda
toyota
suziki
fiat
bmw
mercedes
mazda
lexus
.
.
chrysler
.
and the list goes on op. see what im getting at here op....all those^^^^ are not american owned while some models are still produced in NA, and at least a nice chunk of profits return to the mother land of each company.

north america has....ready......GMC, fords.

look at our options bro, and you cant deny that foreign (to north americans) made cars are bad, infact, ask any mechanic and most will tell you that honda, toyota, and lots others are actually the most reliable cars to buy.

my dad works at the minivan plant for chrysler as a quality control guy. he sees all the bad parts in the plant. ive been inside the plant myself, the quality of a minivan is ****. its disgusting.
i own a mustang, but i bought it because of looks and thats just what appeals to me, not because it was made in america or its some how superior, because its actually not. in 2011 fords came out with the new 3.7L v6 engine, its the first v6 to hit 30 M/PG while still having just over 300 hp. after reading review after review and spending an eternity doing research, between the three main muscle cars, the mustang, the camaro, and the challenger (all with the v6 and same model year) the winner on the track for over all performance and gas mileage was the hyundai genisis coupe. (if you missed the point im saying that american muscle was **** on by a south korean auto company) **** op, we cant even produce the top car/s for what north america is made famous for. we cant even win a race with american muscle. so how are we the best car producers?



as long as honda, toyota and other companies want to keep creating jobs in canada as far as im concerned its fair game to buy them.

heres a list of autos produced in ontario canada alone. i see only two out of 9 north american owned companies on this list. the rest are foreign owned.

1 Acura
1.1 Alliston Plant
2 Chrysler
2.1 Windsor Plant
2.2 Brampton Plant
3 Ford
3.1 Oakville Plant
4 General Motors
4.1 Oshawa Plant
4.2 Ingersoll Plant
5 Honda
5.1 Alliston Plant
6 Lexus
6.1 Cambridge Plant
7 Suzuki
7.1 Ingersoll Plant
8 Toyota
8.1 Cambridge Plant
8.2 Woodstock Plant
9 Volkswagen
9.1 Windsor Plant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...red_in_Ontario

stop being a naive fuk op. open your eyes to the real world.

[thefederalist]

My post said weight and rear weight bias , i'm by no means saying the Porsche isin't fast , but has Motortrend raced it against a Saleen S7? , Ferarr 458?Corvette C6 Zr1? or howbout the SSC ultimate Aero?

even the GTR was faster than the 458 by a 10th of a second. the zr1 was even slower by another 2 10ths

[STLJones]

Bump

[TheChase]

Well if the USA stopped producing utter shiet, then perhaps someone else would be compelled to buy your cars. There is a general lack of build quality in most American cars that simply puts them one or two decades behind even a cheap European or Japanese car. I do like your muscle cars, but besides having some good designers in the 60's and 70's... well, it's not all that impressive.