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    Originally Posted by getout87 View Post
    i bet his wife was like "you never follow through with anything!" lol "i'll show you bitch, im gonna jump in front of a train"
    I have a feeling it went down like that. I was just glad I wasn't working that day, because I would have been on camera laughing about how stupid and random it was.

    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    Nah, she knew that the train was from the Air Force and they were transporting an alien that they have been holding hostage. So she convinced him to save the alien by getting in front of the train and derailing it. True story.
    lulz, he walked in front of it, he didn't drive a truck in front of it. He wasn't on dat der creatine so he just got smashed and they had to clean the train up.


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    Originally Posted by simp3204 View Post
    It turns out the conductor of the train is nicknamed the angel of death, because he has had so many people jump in front of his train.
    This makes me chuckle because of how true it is. We have an engineer with almost 40 years of railroading who has never hit a car/person. There is a guy I hired out with last March that has killed 5 people in 3 seperate incidents, all being distinct suicides. Its odd how the world works sometimes.
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    Originally Posted by austin.j.taylor View Post
    This makes me chuckle because of how true it is. We have an engineer with almost 40 years of railroading who has never hit a car/person. There is a guy I hired out with last March that has killed 5 people in 3 seperate incidents, all being distinct suicides. Its odd how the world works sometimes.
    Craziness. I think that guy had over 10 suicides in around 20 years or so.
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    Why do dead lifts suck so bad. I thought i fixed my form some what but realized i basically SLDL the weight with a flat back and i know if i fixed it i get so much more out of that lift. Plus i couldn't even finish my 3rd set of dls @420 when i did my last workout 460x5 perfectly. poop going to re-watch a bunch of vids
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    Originally Posted by Fivefootkillerz View Post
    Why do dead lifts suck so bad. I thought i fixed my form some what but realized i basically SLDL the weight with a flat back and i know if i fixed it i get so much more out of that lift. Plus i couldn't even finish my 3rd set of dls @420 when i did my last workout 460x5 perfectly. poop going to re-watch a bunch of vids
    maxing too often, too few cals, off day, far to many variables from one workout to another its the overall picture that matters
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    Anyone seen an adverse effect on their bench by adding a day for SOHP and more shoulder volume? I put 35lbs on my bench this fall during Westside not doing much SOHP work if any, and now on that Cube story time I'm struggling with bench volume that never bothered me before. Bailed out on a 250 2-board I should have had last week since I didn't feel as solid at the bottom as I usually feel.
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    Originally Posted by ampUP11 View Post
    Anyone seen an adverse effect on their bench by adding a day for SOHP and more shoulder volume? I put 35lbs on my bench this fall during Westside not doing much SOHP work if any, and now on that Cube story time I'm struggling with bench volume that never bothered me before. Bailed out on a 250 2-board I should have had last week since I didn't feel as solid at the bottom as I usually feel.
    Purely anecdotal but I didn't start to make progress on my bench until I hurt my trap and couldn't do any OHP. My bench went from pure stagnation to jumping 20lbs in a few months.
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    Originally Posted by ampUP11 View Post
    Anyone seen an adverse effect on their bench by adding a day for SOHP and more shoulder volume? I put 35lbs on my bench this fall during Westside not doing much SOHP work if any, and now on that Cube story time I'm struggling with bench volume that never bothered me before. Bailed out on a 250 2-board I should have had last week since I didn't feel as solid at the bottom as I usually feel.
    You are pressing twice a week now correct? you should be fine with that, its hardly any volume
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    Purely anecdotal but I didn't start to make progress on my bench until I hurt my trap and couldn't do any OHP. My bench went from pure stagnation to jumping 20lbs in a few months.
    Sunday is supposed to be my weak point training and SOHP is normally prescribed since bottom of the bench is weakest part of my lift, but now that I beat up my shoulders with push press, klokov, strict pressing, etc, by the time I get to benching on Wednesday I still don't feel 100% stable at the bottom.

    Originally Posted by mitten View Post
    You are pressing twice a week now correct? you should be fine with that, its hardly any volume
    I bench once a week and press once a week, but both days have shoulder movements in them of some sort apart from the main lift. Today was bench with standing db press and this past weekend was 5/3/1 press and lateral accessories. Could have also been attributed to floor pressing off a squat rack with the lowest level being at mid bench and next up being out of reach so I'm pressing half the movement to unrack it and at a bad angle for my shoulders.
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    Originally Posted by happylifter View Post
    maxing too often, too few cals, off day, far to many variables from one workout to another its the overall picture that matters
    well im running madcows so just doing program as prescribed. Im like 220 again im good on the food thing. It's more like a combo of bad day plus i suck so bad at pulling

    Originally Posted by ampUP11 View Post
    Anyone seen an adverse effect on their bench by adding a day for SOHP and more shoulder volume? I put 35lbs on my bench this fall during Westside not doing much SOHP work if any, and now on that Cube story time I'm struggling with bench volume that never bothered me before. Bailed out on a 250 2-board I should have had last week since I didn't feel as solid at the bottom as I usually feel.
    In my case i think my bench stalled when i added shoulder stuff. last year i always skipped shoulders didnt do anything for them besides getting hit from bench and incline but bow that i do it it's coming back up
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    i dont understand how stronger shoulders make ur bench suck but ok. If its too much volume drop the lateral raises. My press and bench go up together.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Sounds like its time to square root the cube. New ebook due out next month.
    I can't wait to ste... errr, buy it!
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Sounds like its time to square root the cube. New ebook due out next month.
    Another cube? I saw that he's writing a sport functional version but do tell if its something else...

    Originally Posted by mitten View Post
    i dont understand how stronger shoulders make ur bench suck but ok. If its too much volume drop the lateral raises. My press and bench go up together.
    In the long run perhaps, currently my shoulders aren't used to having their own day and therefore recovery is piss poor and filtering into my bench work. More significant bench PR's in 2nd 10 week cycle I'm hoping.
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    Fun Fact: my best friend recently informed me that at family dinners, his dad will sneak his brother's "gluten-intolerant" wife gluten and msg filled meals. She is thus far none the wiser as there are no symptoms despite her "gluten-intolerant" status.
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    Finding a good chiro is difficult but can be done. My chiro is a strongman so he understands all the messed up crap I got going on. Might want to visit websites and ask around for a sports oriented one, who knows you might find a powerlifting chiropractor. ART is rough as hell but feels so good when you are done.
    This. There are great ones and terrible ones. Mine actually lifts and a lot of his clients are athletes. Some are useless. He generally does a bit of ART too so I always leave with lines of bruises. Brb looking like I've been beaten in the gym. It's so good though.
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    Craziness. I think that guy had over 10 suicides in around 20 years or so.
    Yeah its a super effective way to get the job done. 200 ton locomotives arent forgiving.
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    Anyone seen an adverse effect on their bench by adding a day for SOHP and more shoulder volume? I put 35lbs on my bench this fall during Westside not doing much SOHP work if any, and now on that Cube story time I'm struggling with bench volume that never bothered me before. Bailed out on a 250 2-board I should have had last week since I didn't feel as solid at the bottom as I usually feel.
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    Purely anecdotal but I didn't start to make progress on my bench until I hurt my trap and couldn't do any OHP. My bench went from pure stagnation to jumping 20lbs in a few months.
    Originally Posted by ampUP11 View Post
    Sunday is supposed to be my weak point training and SOHP is normally prescribed since bottom of the bench is weakest part of my lift, but now that I beat up my shoulders with push press, klokov, strict pressing, etc, by the time I get to benching on Wednesday I still don't feel 100% stable at the bottom.



    I bench once a week and press once a week, but both days have shoulder movements in them of some sort apart from the main lift. Today was bench with standing db press and this past weekend was 5/3/1 press and lateral accessories. Could have also been attributed to floor pressing off a squat rack with the lowest level being at mid bench and next up being out of reach so I'm pressing half the movement to unrack it and at a bad angle for my shoulders.
    Is it possible that instead of it being overworked shoulders it is overtaxed triceps?
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    Is it possible that instead of it being overworked shoulders it is overtaxed triceps?
    I'd take your word over mine, my triceps have handled worse and been fine, tricep volume has gone down and shoulder volume gone up so I assumed it was the adjustment to more shoulder isolated work that is impairing my bench.
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    Originally Posted by ampUP11 View Post
    Sunday is supposed to be my weak point training and SOHP is normally prescribed since bottom of the bench is weakest part of my lift, but now that I beat up my shoulders with push press, klokov, strict pressing, etc, by the time I get to benching on Wednesday I still don't feel 100% stable at the bottom.



    I bench once a week and press once a week, but both days have shoulder movements in them of some sort apart from the main lift. Today was bench with standing db press and this past weekend was 5/3/1 press and lateral accessories. Could have also been attributed to floor pressing off a squat rack with the lowest level being at mid bench and next up being out of reach so I'm pressing half the movement to unrack it and at a bad angle for my shoulders.
    I think stability on the bottom of the bench comes from strong lats and knowing how to use them. Someone that actually knows what they're talking about can totally tell me Im an idiot, but thats how I see it. Ive never ever done OH work and Im very strong off my chest. I dont think OH work will improve that for you.
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    Originally Posted by ampUP11 View Post
    I'd take your word over mine, my triceps have handled worse and been fine, tricep volume has gone down and shoulder volume gone up so I assumed it was the adjustment to more shoulder isolated work that is impairing my bench.
    I am just guessing, but where are you failing, that should tell you where the weakness is stemming from.
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    I think stability on the bottom of the bench comes from strong lats and knowing how to use them. Someone that actually knows what they're talking about can totally tell me Im an idiot, but thats how I see it. Ive never ever done OH work and Im very strong off my chest. I dont think OH work will improve that for you.
    Coming from a weaker bencher to a stronger one, you are correct, it's lats and how tight you are able to stay at the bottom.

    OH presses could be causing weaker benches due to fatigued shoulders, fatigued triceps, OH pressing technique may be taking over during the bench and tightness is lost. For example we all have our benching engrams and when we set up to bench our body associates pressing with scapulae tight and down, arch in our back, leg drive etc. For OH press we don't keep our scaps as tight, waaay less arch and no real leg drive, if any of this transfers over when we are benchign then we can instantly kiss pr's goodbye.
    That was all just a guess, but it seems logical to me.
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    Originally Posted by dan_g_28 View Post
    I think stability on the bottom of the bench comes from strong lats and knowing how to use them. Someone that actually knows what they're talking about can totally tell me Im an idiot, but thats how I see it. Ive never ever done OH work and Im very strong off my chest. I dont think OH work will improve that for you.
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    I think stability on the bottom of the bench comes from strong lats and knowing how to use them.
    Makes sense. When I do close grip bench and tuck my elbows a ton, I always feel tighter in my lats and makes driving off the chest easier than my competition grip. If only I could figure out how to obtain the same lat tightness with my wider grip. Who knows, then I might be able to bench 300!
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