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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    ....but he said they couldn't eliminate sumo because:

    "Phil also wanted to nix sumo pulling however there was no way to acknowledge the records top to bottom and not take it into account."

    So basically....records have been set with sumo, so we will allow it. Same with handoffs on the bench.
    I know. I'm saying he was being retarded by even saying he'd get rid of sumo.
    That's like getting rid of wide stance squats, or arched benches.
    I felt the same way when I first got interested in powerlifting, but have since then noticed that most of the people who hate on sumo can't pull sumo.

    Sounds like we'll end up with yet another fed. That's not really helping powerlifting.

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    Did a little research (aka googled it) and they've already watered themselves down. So now there will be TWO first place winners in each weight class......


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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    So how come I have 5 medals for my 1 first place finish? They even gave me a gold medal one meet because they ran out of bronze medals. Atleast in USAPL Florida, even with all the divisions and weight classes, there is still 2-5 people in each so everyone gets a medal even if they just lifted the bar.
    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    bolded for you. Look at most meet results and just about everyone has 1st next to their name.
    Bolded for you. The one person in a weight class, atleast from what I've seen in Florida, usually comes from bench only, deadlift only, or like a super light male or super heavy female. I haven't looked at results of other feds and states to see how those tend to run. If they wanted to increase their profit, if they even make any at all, they should just cut it to trophy for best male and best female and maybe medal for 2nd and 3rd best male and female. 2 trophies, 4 medals for the entire meet. Call it a day.
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    I'd love a fed that didn't allow Sumo..


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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    Bolded for you. The one person in a weight class, atleast from what I've seen in Florida, usually comes from bench only, deadlift only, or like a super light male or super heavy female. I haven't looked at results of other feds and states to see how those tend to run. If they wanted to increase their profit, if they even make any at all, they should just cut it to trophy for best male and best female and maybe medal for 2nd and 3rd best male and female. 2 trophies, 4 medals for the entire meet. Call it a day.
    A good local meet will have 20 people in it. Most are less. Then each of those will be registered in 1 or more divisions so the meet director typically advertises how many registrations they have not people.
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    I dont get the sumo hate.

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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    A good local meet will have 20 people in it. Most are less. Then each of those will be registered in 1 or more divisions so the meet director typically advertises how many registrations they have not people.
    I know the meet I did last year everyone got a trophy. I'd much rather knock 10 bucks off my registration fees and not get a trophy for competing in my divisions alone, or for taking 2nd place out of 2 lifters.

    So after an all day meet, you had to sit through an overly long awards ceremony.

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    Originally Posted by getout87 View Post
    I dont get the sumo hate.
    I don't get why it took you so long to change your signature.
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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    I don't get why it took you so long to change your signature.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    Bolded for you. The one person in a weight class, atleast from what I've seen in Florida, usually comes from bench only, deadlift only, or like a super light male or super heavy female. I haven't looked at results of other feds and states to see how those tend to run. If they wanted to increase their profit, if they even make any at all, they should just cut it to trophy for best male and best female and maybe medal for 2nd and 3rd best male and female. 2 trophies, 4 medals for the entire meet. Call it a day.
    Thats great at a national level meet but you can't do that at a state meet. The state meets in the USAPL and USPA are designed to get new lifters into the sport. Imagine a 17 year old kid who's been training like a madman for his first meet at the florida state meet and doesn't come home with a medal after getting 1st place. Medals are important, even if everyone gets one.

    I do believe master's should be bumped up to 45 or 50 though.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    A good local meet will have 20 people in it. Most are less. Then each of those will be registered in 1 or more divisions so the meet director typically advertises how many registrations they have not people.
    I guess that makes the USAPL meet we hosted in Tallahassee a great local meet since we had 45 people and only 48 registrations (1 of which was that ******* spfjudge). 45 people that included me, stig, goose, spfjudge, corozco, and of course the infamous hunter poole.
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    Originally Posted by SPFjudge View Post
    Thats great at a national level meet but you can't do that at a state meet. The state meets in the USAPL and USPA are designed to get new lifters into the sport. Imagine a 17 year old kid who's been training like a madman for his first meet at the florida state meet and doesn't come home with a medal after getting 1st place. Medals are important, even if everyone gets one.

    I do believe master's should be bumped up to 45 or 50 though.
    Totally agree. Powerilfting seems to have pretty good staying power for guys into their 40's.

    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    I guess that makes the USAPL meet we hosted in Tallahassee a great local meet since we had 45 people and only 48 registrations (1 of which was that ******* spfjudge). 45 people that included me, stig, goose, spfjudge, corozco, and of course the infamous hunter poole.
    Yes, that would be a great turn out and uncommonly low number of registrations. That's not the norm for most local meets everywhere. Some struggle to get 10 people to show up.
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    Originally Posted by HARRYBEAST View Post
    weird in my first meet there were over 90 lifters.
    My last one had ~50-60. Most were a university powerlifting team and local high school team that showed up.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    I guess that makes the USAPL meet we hosted in Tallahassee a great local meet since we had 45 people and only 48 registrations (1 of which was that ******* spfjudge). 45 people that included me, stig, goose, spfjudge, corozco, and of course the infamous hunter poole.
    No that was only the collegiate part of the meet. The state meet was on sunday so combined there were a lot more lifters.
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    I dont get the sumo hate.
    I think paul was apart of a thread on here a while back and everyone was arguing about sumo, it got heated.
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    Originally Posted by mitten View Post
    I think paul was apart of a thread on here a while back and everyone was arguing about sumo, it got heated.
    The funny thing is, all of the people who hate on sumo and say its cheating are the guys who pull less sumo stance than they do conventional.
    Otherwise, they'd be pulling sumo in meets to improve their total.

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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Yes, that would be a great turn out and uncommonly low number of registrations. That's not the norm for most local meets everywhere. Some struggle to get 10 people to show up.
    I guess USAPL Oklahoma was lucky to get 17 people to turn out for their first meet in the state. They had a few more register but back out as well. I got 1st out of 2 people by an easy 100+ lbs, what what! Lol. No free state records for me though because my USAPL membership was still registered to Florida.
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    My last one had ~50-60. Most were a university powerlifting team and local high school team that showed up.
    There were two local teams that showed up to ours and they probably counted for about 30 of the lifters
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    I guess USAPL Oklahoma was lucky to get 17 people to turn out for their first meet in the state. They had a few more register but back out as well. I got 1st out of 2 people by an easy 100+ lbs, what what! Lol. No free state records for me though because my USAPL membership was still registered to Florida.
    I like looking at meet results and miss the PLUSA mag for that alone and you'd very often see 10-20 actual people meets. Yes there are meets with a lot more turn out but a good meet across all feds across the US seems to be getting in around 20 people. I'm hoping now that I have easier access to a bigger fed like the USAPL I'll be exposed to more competition.
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    Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 View Post
    The funny thing is, all of the people who hate on sumo and say its cheating are the guys who pull less sumo stance than they do conventional.
    Otherwise, they'd be pulling sumo in meets to improve their total.
    sumo doesn't count because the ROM is shorter, so I think conventional deads shouldn't be counted unless the person is over 6'.

    both makes about the same amount of sense.

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    Originally Posted by Trah275 View Post
    Can't get anyone to take my shift for sat night so it looks like no good times for me.
    That sucks. Are you still coming for a little bit?
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    Originally Posted by csday924 View Post
    I got board.
    lol.
    pretty much a spud gun?


    My parents have a couple that run off hairspray and they're a blast. I shot a hole through some particle board at about 20 yards.

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    Originally Posted by getout87 View Post
    sumo doesn't count because the ROM is shorter, so I think conventional deads shouldn't be counted unless the person is over 6'.

    both makes about the same amount of sense.
    i will say that my conventional ROM is probably less than your sumo ROM.

    BRB, no manlets allowed in new fed. You have a short ROM and you're able to be jacked while being in lower weight classes.

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    Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 View Post
    lol.
    pretty much a spud gun?


    My parents have a couple that run off hairspray and they're a blast. I shot a hole through some particle board at about 20 yards.
    Yea pretty much. I was cleaning my garage and wanted to make something. Took like 10 minutes and shoots poweraid bottles.

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    Originally Posted by csday924 View Post
    Yea pretty much. I was cleaning my garage and wanted to make something. Took like 10 minutes and shoots poweraid bottles filled with draino and aluminum foil.
    fixed.

    you now have a grenade launcher.

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    Originally Posted by csday924 View Post
    Yea pretty much. I was cleaning my garage and wanted to make something. Took like 10 minutes and shoots poweraid bottles.
    lol I don't think those are legal in your town?
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