The Official PL Family Appreciation Thread: Part XI

[Jason2459]

This doesn't matter, IMHO. The average weight of your sets still increases at a slower rate when you microload. It may not increase perfectly linearly due to plate variation, but there is always plate variation regardless of plate size used. In other words, even without microloading, unless you own your own equipment, and many do, you can only increase average work set weight with any accuracy. The exact weight of any given set is not necessarily relevant when discussing the utility of microplates.

Using Req's example of someone stalling in the low 200s, let's say at an average work set of 225, a 5lbs average increase would constitute an average 2.22% increase per workout. Many one rep calculators value each rep at 2-3% of 1RM. In other words, if you can do 3 at 90%, you'll probably get 4 at 87-88%. Asking someone to be able to add an entire rep, two to three times a week, is a lot to ask for on any kind of linear periodization. Using a 2.5lbs increase, you're only increasing at a rate of 1% per workout which is a more realistic increase.

The difference between adding 2.5lbs and 5lbs when your work sets are over 500lbs is probably entirely irrelevant, but it isn't to the novices doing SS. IMO.

Newbeee gainz should be jumping a lot more then fractional plates give. If anything the advanced lifter has a harder time progressively increasing weight. If a beginner stalls on SS its not because of not small enough chips.

[mitten]

for some reason I think this would work betterr than microloading.

think bout it.

Some dude stuck at 315 for months, just getting more and more explosive, more and more reps.. finally is allowed to put 405 on the bar and crushes it. meanwhile got a rippetoad in the corner grinding out reps like he's gonna die every week. yeah he might get there too but its ****ing miserable and looks nasty

thats how a lot of paul carter's programming looks


also about the shoes, most powerlifting shoes are ugly as fuk. He is prolly just gonna make a more attractive looking shoe in place of them. As far as i know its either oly shoes with a big heel, a shoe like chucks or those ugly powerlifting shoes

[takeittakeit]

thats how a lot of paul carter's programming looks


also about the shoes, most powerlifting shoes are ugly as fuk. He is prolly just gonna make a more attractive looking shoe in place of them. As far as i know its either oly shoes with a big heel, a shoe like chucks or those ugly powerlifting shoes

Because pretty makes you lift more.

Just what this sport needs: more fixation on appearance.

[IzzyT]

Newbeee gainz should be jumping a lot more then fractional plates give. If anything the advanced lifter has a harder time progressively increasing weight. If a beginner stalls on SS its not because of not small enough chips.

Initially, sure. After the first three to six months, that isn't always possible. We're still talking about increasing ~1%+ per workout. I don't know of any advanced lifters that are capable of legitimately adding 2-3% to their max on a weekly basis. By definition, they wouldn't really be advanced lifters anymore.

One of the most common reasons for "early" stalls on SS is that people do not microload their upperbody lifts and their power cleans. FWIW, and I know it isn't much, I'm a certified SS coach and I've discussed this topic with Rip. In his 20+ years of experience using this program and its variants, he believes that jumps even as small as 1# can be useful on the overhead press. For the bench and clean, his limit is 2# and he doesn't go below 5# for squats and deads. Again, take it for it is worth.

[ErickStevens]

also about the shoes, most powerlifting shoes are ugly as fuk. He is prolly just gonna make a more attractive looking shoe in place of them. As far as i know its either oly shoes with a big heel, a shoe like chucks or those ugly powerlifting shoes

I love shoes (no homo) but the last thing I care about when I'm lifting is how I look.

[takeittakeit]

I love shoes (no homo) but the last thing I care about when I'm lifting is how I look.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ErickStevens again.

[Jason2459]

...Again, take it for it is worth.

No offence but I don't give much worth to SS.

[IzzyT]

Fair enough, but the popularity of the program speaks for itself as do the results. I know of more than a dozen people who finished the program, all within a single year, with numbers like this: 405+x5x3, 315+x5x3, 500+x5x1. It took me only 8 months to total 1225 on SS. Naturally, I'm a proponent of the program even though I do not necessarily think it is ideal for powerlifting.

[Doollas]

Good luck making one that's mediocre at all 3.

Forge an elite shoe?

But seriously, I like my PPII's but it would be nice to have an oly shoe with more ankle support. But as long as they look good I don't really care.

Is it just me, or is the SPF getting a little stricter about depth?

Redlighted the second attempt with 615 here:
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Whereas last year people were raging that this got three whites:
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All the squats in those vids looked high to me.

[Jason2459]

Fair enough, but the popularity of the program speaks for itself as do the results. I know of more than a dozen people who finished the program, all within a single year, with numbers like this: 405+x5x3, 315+x5x3, 500+x5x1. It took me only 8 months to total 1225 on SS. Naturally, I'm a proponent of the program even though I do not necessarily think it is ideal for powerlifting.

I didn't say it doesn't work. Its just not for me.

[ampUP11]

Because pretty makes you lift more.

Just what this sport needs: more fixation on appearance.

Didn't we discuss heels being the new bench shoe anyways?

[mitten]

im all about buying pretty shoes

[thom2355]

Forge an elite shoe?

This is on the path to my thought. Reebok = Crossfit. Crossfit = $$$$. $$$$ = Mark Bell's attention. Those "powerlifting" shoes ain't gonna be geared towards powerlifters guise.

[Fivefootkillerz]

tbh when i bought my oly shoes i took how they look into consideration. cant have ugly oly shoes but most of them looks cool with there odd colors and the hell.

I told myself i wont look at this stupid thread in the misc. why dont they lift man? why?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=151482613

[Jason2459]

This is on the path to my thought. Reebok = Crossfit. Crossfit = $$$$. $$$$ = Mark Bell's attention. Those "powerlifting" shoes ain't gonna be geared towards powerlifters guise.

;

All we need is more shoes. Reebok already has a crossfit/oly shoe
Riptoe already designed an altered weightlifting shoe with slightly reduced heal for squats
Inzer/Titan/crain have "power" squat boots with a raised heal
We have a variety of weightlifting shoes to choose from
Metal has a nice flat shoe good for squat and dead lifts
Then the wide variety of flat shoes from non-powerlifting or weightlifting specific designs like chuck's, ballet slippers, and wrestling shoes.

[thom2355]

;

All we need is more shoes. Reebok already has a crossfit/oly shoe
Riptoe already designed an altered weightlifting shoe with slightly reduced heal for squats
Inzer/Titan/crain have "power" squat boots with a raised heal
We have a variety of weightlifting shoes to choose from
Metal has a nice flat shoe good for squat and dead lifts
Then the wide variety of flat shoes from non-powerlifting or weightlifting specific designs like chuck's, ballet slippers, and wrestling shoes.

Our ancestors from long ago did everything barefoot....that may not be feasible today due to germaphobes and what not, but if we could get a shoe that could get us as close to barefoot as possible.....that would be perfect. Some unique trait to is and we got a Million $$$$ idea....Let's get on it guise.

[Fivefootkillerz]

;

All we need is more shoes. Reebok already has a crossfit/oly shoe
Riptoe already designed an altered weightlifting shoe with slightly reduced heal for squats
Inzer/Titan/crain have "power" squat boots with a raised heal
We have a variety of weightlifting shoes to choose from
Metal has a nice flat shoe good for squat and dead lifts
Then the wide variety of flat shoes from non-powerlifting or weightlifting specific designs like chuck's, ballet slippers, and wrestling shoes.

what if they made a shoe with changeable soles. the shoe to begin with would be solid flat low to the ground. a wooden sole insert for raised heel squats and maybe a raised toe wooden sole for deadlifts? profit? inb4 someone steals my idea

[ShortDave]

Our ancestors from long ago did everything barefoot....that may not be feasible today due to germaphobes and what not, but if we could get a shoe that could get us as close to barefoot as possible.....that would be perfect. Some unique trait to is and we got a Million $$$$ idea....Let's get on it guise.

these?

[thom2355]

these?

Man....I was hoping for a "Simpson's did it" reply

[ShortDave]

Man....I was hoping for a "Simpson's did it" reply

Dammit, I'm a failure.

Well, that's it guys, time to watch more cartoons.

[arian11]

Because pretty makes you lift more.

Just what this sport needs: more fixation on appearance.

Next you're gonna tell us how you think they should ban Lilliebridge style singlets from competition. Just who do you think you are!

[Jason2459]

For those that were looking for 1.25# plates did you check these out.

http://www.roguefitness.com/black-steel-plates.php

[izzygrant]

My oly shoes happen to have purple trim. So they match with my purple striped socks and "u mad bro" tshirt. Total coincidence.

[dannyautrey]

Sup ***gles?

[darren.dugan]

My oly shoes happen to have purple trim. So they match with my purple striped socks and "u mad bro" tshirt. Total coincidence.

Interesting. My 'Do You Even Lift' t-shirt is black and white, much like my Chuck T's and my PL belt.

[BigLarge]

Interesting. My 'Do You Even Lift' t-shirt is black and white, much like my Chuck T's and my PL belt.

Dammit, my Adipowers are red and my Rehabands are blue


buying black Titan knee sleeves now

[Jason2459]

Dammit, my Adipowers are red and my Rehabands are blue


buying black Titan knee sleeves now

No doubt. Worse color ever picked but damn they feel good.

[darren.dugan]

Dammit, my Adipowers are red and my Rehabands are blue


buying black Titan knee sleeves now

Forgot about my black and grey Titan sleeves and my black and grey Metal singlet.

I hope they will let me wear my Pulcinella meme t-shirt at my next meet in March.

[LongtimeLurkr]

For anyone that has not bought the titan rehband knock-offs, consider it carefully - they seem to have quality control issues.

[darren.dugan]

For anyone that has not bought the titan rehband knock-offs, consider it carefully - they seem to have quality control issues.

Supposedly they updated them and fixed the issues they had. Haven't heard anyone review the new ones yet though.