Preworkout??

[darthmactis]

Is there a good per-workout that u can take and still do cardio? I have jack3d and like the way it works but can't do cardio with it. I read craze is the next best thing but can u do cardio with it?

[WonderPug]

If you're hungry before your workout and consuming food does not negatively impact your workout, then consume whatever you're in the mood for.

Personally, I workout in an overnight fasted state because of improved energy and focus.

[SuffolkPunch]

Most preworkouts don't anything that a good strong cup of coffee doesn't already do.

[italianplaya30]

a cup of coffee or a caffeine tablet would work fine

[n0useforaname]

I have to ask, why do you take a pre-workout? Does it actually help you stay motivated and energetic in the gym, thus giving you a better workout? Or do you think that the powder itself will actually make you bigger/stronger?

[Marloon]

I have to ask, why do you take a pre-workout? Does it actually help you stay motivated and energetic in the gym, thus giving you a better workout? Or do you think that the powder itself will actually make you bigger/stronger?

LOLOLOLOL plz tell me ur a troll

[WonderPug]

Most preworkouts don't anything that a good strong cup of coffee doesn't already do.

Very true.

[Marloon]

Very true.

so coffee has amino acids and glutamine in it?

[x-ray vision]

^ Context is everything. What do you think amino acids and glutamine before a workout "do" to improve the quality or results of a workout?

[Marloon]

^ Context is everything. What do you think amino acids and glutamine before a workout "do" to improve the quality or results of a workout?

help your skin turn green

[WonderPug]

so coffee has amino acids and glutamine in it?

FYI: Glutamine is an amino acid.

Also, there's no need or benefit to supplementing amino acids when a diet contains sufficient protein intake.

[Marloon]

FYI: Glutamine is an amino acid.

Also, there's no need or benefit to supplementing amino acids when a diet contains sufficient protein intake.

WRONGGG!!!!! I was talking essentials fool

[WonderPug]

so coffee has amino acids and glutamine in it?

FYI: Glutamine is an amino acid.

Also, there's no need or benefit to supplementing amino acids when a diet contains sufficient protein intake.

WRONGGG!!!!! I was talking essentials fool

You post makes absolutely no sense in context of your prior post.

Also, FYI: Glutamine is not recognized as an essential amino acid, though it can be conditionally essential. However, it's plentiful is dietary sources of protein and there's no peer-reviewed journal published research that I'm aware of supporting material benefits from free form supplementation.

[B-ryminD09]

i've been taking white flood for leg days and can do cardio on it. doesn't make my heart race like jack3d.

superpump max is also a good one imo, but to expensive.

[Marloon]

You post makes absolutely no sense in context of your prior post.

Also, FYI: Glutamine is not recognized as an essential amino acid, though it can be conditionally essential. However, it's plentiful is dietary sources of protein and there's no peer-reviewed journal published research that I'm aware of supporting material benefits from free form supplementation.

YES = NOT ESSENTIAL

besides its not in coffee IS IT

[WonderPug]

YES = NOT ESSENTIAL

besides its not in coffee IS IT

There seems to a logical disconnect between your posts and the content you're intending to reply to.

Given the magnitude of this disconnect, I don't think I can help you.

[Marloon]

There seems to a logical disconnect between your posts and the content you're intending to reply to.

Given the magnitude of this disconnect, I don't think I can help you.

WE know that you think in aggregate terms of initial posts so please give a magni for the rest of us LOL

[n0useforaname]

No one can help him... he's an upset vegan trying to justify his own diet to himself.

[Marloon]

No one can help him... he's an upset vegan trying to justify his own diet to himself.

reported

[darthmactis]

I have to ask, why do you take a pre-workout? Does it actually help you stay motivated and energetic in the gym, thus giving you a better workout? Or do you think that the powder itself will actually make you bigger/stronger?

I take it to keep me more focused and gives me the energy to do more reps at a little higher weight.

[Naeem11]

I had never taken a pre-workout until my last two lifts.....had two free samples, honestly noticed nothing, I normally down half a gallon of water and hit the gym in the AM fasted. Days that I go later in the day, coffee or caffeine pills work well for me. But those are a rarity, I know of a few people who've become dependent on coffee as a pre-workout and now consume 2-3 large coffees before the gym. A bit excessive imo. Personally I try to hold off on coffee for those days that I'm just feeling like absolute crap and I need a little something for pep. I'll go with either a sugarfree rockstar or a big cup of coffee normally.

[AlwaysTryin]

Why can't you do cardio on it but can do weights?

[darthmactis]

Why can't you do cardio on it but can do weights?

Gets your heart going to much.

[darthmactis]

But I was thinking almost all per workouts have to be taken 30 min before workout. If I do my cardio in that 30 min window will I be ok?

[WonderPug]

But I was thinking almost all per workouts have to be taken 30 min before workout. If I do my cardio in that 30 min window will I be ok?

Whatever gives you the greatest placebo effect is what you should do.

[n0useforaname]

I take it to keep me more focused and gives me the energy to do more reps at a little higher weight.

I'm not extremely experienced in the differences of pre-workout supplements, but I work at a school were TONS of kids take them. The standard in that weight room is C4... I know kids who weight train/cardio with no complaints, and I myself for about a month used it with no issues. Now keep in mind that pre-workout in itself is not going to yield you muscle gain/etc.. But if it gives you the energy to perform better (placebo effect like pug mentioned) then that in turn will give you a better workout yielding better results. I found that a cup of coffee gave me the same energy, and all my other macro/micros came from my diet. I just remember some kids taking jacked and 1MR, etc.. and they were sweating like crazy, constantly itchy, dizzy, etc.. and that's just not good IMO.