look at this pic and there is a video that might help you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbdt7ohPSLY
here is a 20min video on how to make band pegs for your rack (i havent watched it so im not sure how helpful it is)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfkG-YdBi6c
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03-10-2013, 05:20 PM #181
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It surprises me how many people refuse to buy equipment from Elitefts because its too expensive but they will buy equipment from their competitors, then continue to go on EFS website to educate themselves for FREE
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03-10-2013, 05:36 PM #182
I've had my Dark Horse for 2 months now. Love the rack but feel your pain when it comes to moving the safety pin's. A quick adjust spotter upgrade would be a nice option. Sorinex just released their safety strap spotting system for the Dark Horse. The Dark Horse version is not on the website yet. I purchased the safety straps and should have them along with the landmine in a couple of days. The safety strap system is a bit expensive but I'm sure will be worth it. I'll post some pics when they arrive.
Like this except for the DarkHorse: http://store.sorinex.com/Sorinex-Saf...strap-safe.htmLast edited by StephanBB; 03-10-2013 at 05:54 PM.
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03-10-2013, 05:49 PM #184
Thanks 817boy, can't rep again, doh! Yep! with the sumo design on the Dark Horse that's what I do! The dark horse is 7'6" tall, at my height 6'2" I can still do over head work in the rack, band pegs would very likely interfere. Perhaps if there was an option to quickly install/remove band pegs I'd consider it. Due to the simplicity of the method recommended by 817boy I don't think I'd buy anything. Definitely wouldn't drill holes for something permanent!
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03-10-2013, 08:46 PM #188
My personal choice is the safety strap spotting system. I intended to purchase them right from from the beginning. I was bummed when Sorinex told me they hadn't qualified the straps for proper length on the Dark Horse. Emailed them last week and was told they were done! Placed order on the spot. If quick adjust was $150 and strap system was $275 I'd still go with the strap system.
The solid piece will always feel more awkward and harder to adjust (granted much easier than the pin/pipe system) than the strap system. With the strap design I also believe you would have more flexibility to make incremental adjustments. For instance you could raise the shackles on the back uprights a notch higher than the ones on the front, almost providing what would be a 1/2 height increment. The ease of shackle adjustment is one thing, how many times have you bounced the bar off the solid safety? Things get all squirrely. The straps will be more forgiving.
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03-10-2013, 09:22 PM #189
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03-10-2013, 09:51 PM #190
i really like the safety strap system. i prefer it over my quick adjust safeties, because of the points you noted:
- incremental height changes and even directional. for instance, if you wanted the bar to slide away vs towards you
- much easier on your bar and there's no bounce when you tap the straps. this ends up keeping me in check for squats, since i can touch and go with the straps without any negative impact.
the swing style safeties can sometimes take a bit to line up. the biggest upshot to a swing style safety would be if it has holes running across it like the BaseCamp and XL series (or even Rogue, these days). with holes running across the sides, you now have a dip station, pulling stands, or maybe a band peg setup. the other upshot would be it's easier to remember what safety height you need. for straps, i rarely use them at the same height, so i'm shuffling them around for each exercise. i just use my warm-up sets to fine tune where i want them to be before the working sets.
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03-13-2013, 02:11 PM #191
I'm thinking about buying the DH for my home gym but the difficulty of moving the safeties and scraping metal dust concerns me since I will be constantly readjusting the safeties. Has anyone contacted Sorinex regarding this issue? I noticed in this thread that GI came across some other issues with his DH and Sorinex was able to fix them.
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03-13-2013, 06:34 PM #193
It's not necessarily a Sorinex issue, it's simply the result of the pin and pipe design. Some prefer that simple design and feel it's stronger, others prefer the quick adjust safety. I feel Sorinex should definitely offer an upgrade option at a reasonable price for the folks the prefer the quick adjust type. The safety strap system is now available for the DH, but is $275 (mine arrived today). The rack at $999 shipped to your door can't be beat. I doubt your going to find a rack that comes close. I love it and would buy it again. I'm sure black widow or edge fitness could custom make some solid safeties for cheap money if you really hate the solid pin design.
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03-13-2013, 06:50 PM #194
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I really don't find they screech like my Powertec did, with that rack it was like dragging a knife across a plate at 100db.
There is some "dust" though that is shaved from the power coating on the pin. You could ask them not to powder coat the pin, which would solve this, but may create the knife on a plate screeching problem.()---() York Barbell Club #30 ()---()
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03-13-2013, 07:04 PM #195
Posted this pic in the look what I bought post but its appropriate here as well. Just unboxed my new safety straps for the Sorinex Dark Horse. I decided to throw some color into my all black setup, add a little visual stimulation... Will install them soon. The other item in the pic is the landmine. Going to attach it to the 2x2 weight stack.
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03-15-2013, 10:30 PM #208
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Hmm... I'd go J-cup upgrade and maybe an El Diablo. The batwing chin looks cool but is too much cake IMO. Interested to see the Square Spotters, I didn't think they had them yet. This is still the Rack until someone does it in a 2x2 for about $6-700 shipped. Then the games begin with the "Powertec" market. Who will be first?
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03-15-2013, 10:49 PM #209
True. The square spotter sound nice, but too rich for my blood at 300USD.
The pics of the Index chin bar and the other accs are here: (but I cant find a pic of the bat wing bar...)
http://store.sorinex.com/Base-Camp-A...ries-s/374.htm
Index bar
Still the indexing bar looks nice. Reminds me of what HNMD had, I will try to find that pic, it was the nicest adj chin bar Ive ever seen...
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Here is a pic the BaseCamp spotters - are they the same as the DarkHorse? I couldnt find the accessory page for DarkHorse so I took these from accs page of BaseCamp.
Larger view of the j-hooks...
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