My FB post on guns & civillians...

[jellodirt]

Of all the stupid **** posted on this forum, I think you topped the list with the killing of children comment.

Get yourself some help.

Agreed

[mslman71]

Gotta love the Connecticut deal, they actually expect current owners of magazines capable of holding more than 10 rds to actually come on in and register them.

Around here the gun supply is starting to get somewhat back to normal but the ammo deal is nuts, good luck finding .22lr at any of the big box stores. Small independent gun shops have plenty but places like Gander mtn, Walmart, Farm & Fleet, etc are sold out of most handgun rds as well as anything for the typical so called assault rifles such as AR's, AK47's, etc.

I picked up an old chinese SKS a couple weeks ago, already had ammo but I got just a few more boxes from my secret dealer source
Also bought a Kel-Tec PLR-16 handgun last week, this thing shoots .223/5.56 rifles rds and is basically an AR15 pistol. Took almost a week to find the forend and muzzle brake for it but those will be here monday. Also got .223 ammo once againa from my favorite secret source and the price is the same as it was many months ago, unlike a lot of online shops or even 1 local place that wanted $32 for 20 rds............total crooks.

What'd you give for the SKS?

[SP1966]

CO State Rep. Diana DeGette (D) "I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now they’re going to shoot them, so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._reloaded.html

Can you imagine what a mess we would be in if our elected representatives weren't completely incompetent? If they actually had just the bare minimum of knowledge they would be truly dangerous. The above imbecile is clueless to the fact that magazines can be reloaded.

[mslman71]

Can you imagine what a mess we would be in if our elected representatives weren't completely incompetent? If they actually had just the bare minimum of knowledge they would be truly dangerous. The above imbecile is clueless to the fact that magazines can be reloaded.

Just saw the feed on that story a few minutes ago. I really don't know what to say. I think she was referring to clips, though they can be reloaded too (???). Actually, neither way makes sense.

I think their meetings must go something like this:

[SP1966]

Just saw the feed on that story a few minutes ago. I really don't know what to say. I think she was referring to clips, though they can be reloaded too (???). Actually, neither way makes sense.

I think their meetings must go something like this:

Would love to be a fly on the wall when somebody finally explains it to her!! LMAO!!!

[mslman71]

Would love to be a fly on the wall when somebody finally explains it to her!! LMAO!!!

lol

Again, how much can they really care about this issue if they can't spend an hour learning the terminology? When I have to get up and defend a intellectual position/opinion in front of a room of people I do everything I can to understand the material as much as is reasonably possible, and that sometimes goes into weeks to months of preparation. She's getting up in front of potentially millions of people and can barely spell her own last name.

Basic firearms operation and terminology wouldn't take but a few minutes and one of her aids could do the research for her (them).

[SP1966]

Basic firearms operation and terminology wouldn't take but a few minutes and one of her aids could do the research for her (them).

They do their parties bidding so the plan was already laid out, she just had to push it. Further many of the policies being pushed are put forth by lobbyists who have a dog in the fight. Sadly to few people in any line of work these days actually consider the ramifications of their actions beyond what they are told.

On another note, I sure hope NK doesn't nuke Guam, its already in danger of capsizing.

[mslman71]

They do their parties bidding so the plan was already laid out, she just had to push it. Further many of the policies being pushed are put forth by lobbyists who have a dog in the fight. Sadly to few people in any line of work these days actually consider the ramifications of their actions beyond what they are told.

Party or not I wouldn't want to look like a dumbass up there. There are some defensible arguments for gun control, liberties aside. Why not go after something that is marginally sound?

On another note, I sure hope NK doesn't nuke Guam, its already in danger of capsizing.

lol. That was a GA senator or rep wasn't it?

[Corbi]

What'd you give for the SKS?

$360, that's pretty much what they have been at for the past yr or so. 18 months ago you could have gotten them for under $200.

[mslman71]

$360, that's pretty much what they have been at for the past yr or so. 18 months ago you could have gotten them for under $200.

Damn, they've gone up. Paid $150 for mine about 3 years ago, though it doesn't look as good as the one you posted. Fukin' thing's a club, isn't it? I'd hate to have to have dragged that thing around day and night.

[Dave76]

Can you imagine what a mess we would be in if our elected representatives weren't completely incompetent? If they actually had just the bare minimum of knowledge they would be truly dangerous. The above imbecile is clueless to the fact that magazines can be reloaded.

I think she's talking about banning ammunition. Once the available supply is gone, you won't be able to reload the clip/magazine because there will be no ammunition.

If she thinks about it a little further, she may realize that she'll need to ban gunpowder to keep people from reloading the brass.

[Trinity1216]

Nice clean up mod man

I was just responding to your last post Flex. I thought it was hysterical

[-=FLEX=-]

Nice clean up mod man

I was just responding to your last post Flex. I thought it was hysterical

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[Karl_Hungus]

Gotta love the Connecticut deal, they actually expect current owners of magazines capable of holding more than 10 rds to actually come on in and register them.

That is an excellent idea on their part -- because people who intend to use the guns for crimes will undoubtedly register them.

[mslman71]

That is an excellent idea on their part -- because people who intend to use the guns for crimes will undoubtedly register them.

I'm going to try and remember to pull a few mags out this evening and see if they have anything about them that is register-able. I don't think they are required to stamp them with anything and I don't think there is any requirement to preserve or not obscure any stampings that might be on the body. Aside from that, I'm not exactly sure what registering magazines is supposed to accomplish from an immediate practical standpoint. It's not like magazines leave a signature on a round so, well, it's just weird.

[Dave76]

...I'm not exactly sure what registering magazines is supposed to accomplish from an immediate practical standpoint. It's not like magazines leave a signature on a round so, well, it's just weird.

What it does is to allow the politician to get votes from uninformed anti-gun voters.

If I lived in CT, I think I'd buy a couple of magazines and register them even though I don't own a rifle to accept the magazines. I'm sure that would screw with the mind of some bureaucrat who cross checks the gun/magazine registration lists.

[mslman71]

What it does is to allow the politician to get votes from uninformed anti-gun voters.
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Sure, I get that. But it seems there had to be some kind of conversation that led up to this making it in the language, private or public. I would really like to hear what it was, more out of sick curiosity than anything. I often ask myself are the people saying this (whatever the 'this' happens to be) stupid or do they think we are so stupid as to not see the difference, or is it both?

[JRT6]

I'm a competitve 3 gun shooter who has been on hiatus the last few years because of burnout and family. I wanted to wait until my kids were older to get back into it, b/c it's very time and money consuming, but with these new gun bans I think competitions are going to die out. Why? Because even though most places except NY aren't taking guns and magazines away from anyone, they're preventing new shooters from aquiring them thereby slowly strangling a sport that for most part is made up of older shooters.

[Corbi]

I'm going to try and remember to pull a few mags out this evening and see if they have anything about them that is register-able. I don't think they are required to stamp them with anything and I don't think there is any requirement to preserve or not obscure any stampings that might be on the body. Aside from that, I'm not exactly sure what registering magazines is supposed to accomplish from an immediate practical standpoint. It's not like magazines leave a signature on a round so, well, it's just weird.

I just checked a couple of my 30 rd P-mags and there are no marks other than type of rd it holds, manufacturer and the part number. there are no serial numbers or anything so how would it even be possible to register something like this and who would be asinine enough to actually bring theirs in for this stupid law?

[mslman71]

I just checked a couple of my 30 rd P-mags and there are no marks other than type of rd it holds, manufacturer and the part number. there are no serial numbers or anything so how would it even be possible to register something like this and who would be asinine enough to actually bring theirs in for this stupid law?

Checked the AK mags. No markings whatsoever.

[Corbi]

Picked up a Tapco stock for my SKS, oh no now it's going to be a scary black gun.


And slowly but surely ammo is becoming available again. AR's are easily obtainable for normal prices as well, few more weeks and we should be back to business as usual.

[Kraken]

DHS just started buying up ammo again...few million they are trying to stock up on. I am beginning to think they are forcing shortages just long enough to go to war with US citizens.

[SP1966]

A great article by Thomas Sowell. I'm sure I'm a racist for posting it.

Amid all the heated, emotional advocacy of gun control, have you ever heard even one person present convincing hard evidence that tighter gun control laws have in fact reduced murders?

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/04/3...trol-crusades/

[Kraken]

A great article by Thomas Sowell. I'm sure I'm a racist for posting it.

Remember SP, facts are racist, and when you state facts, that makes you racist. This is the new wave of thinking.

[SP1966]

Remember SP, facts are racist, and when you state facts, that makes you racist. This is the new wave of thinking.

But I feel like they're true.

[so-tex]

DHS just started buying up ammo again...few million they are trying to stock up on. I am beginning to think they are forcing shortages just long enough to go to war with US citizens.

What other reason would there be? Geez, they are going to have more ammo than our military. I am not an anarchist, but I don't trust our government anymore, be it Democrats or Repulicans.

[so-tex]

A great article by Thomas Sowell. I'm sure I'm a racist for posting it.

You sir, are a racist, because, like most of us here, have common sense, and that doesn't 'float' in this country anymore.

[SP1966]

What other reason would there be? Geez, they are going to have more ammo than our military. I am not an anarchist, but I don't trust our government anymore, be it Democrats or Repulicans.

I tend to not believe its about arming for marshal law type situation, nor about the government trying to take (more?) control. I think its simply a way the lefties in office can inflict some pain on all the evil law abiding, gun owning racist homophobes by depriving them of their ammo, or at least making it as expensive as possible. The idea that that silly, antique piece of paper will not allow them to take the guns outright has them stomping their feet and saying "Oh yeah, well then good luck getting ammo!".

There is nothing honest about this administration. There is something very dishonest about all administrations IMO, but this one is far and away the shadiest.

[Kraken]

I tend to not believe its about arming for marshal law type situation, nor about the government trying to take (more?) control. I think its simply a way the lefties in office can inflict some pain on all the evil law abiding, gun owning racist homophobes by depriving them of their ammo, or at least making it as expensive as possible. The idea that that silly, antique piece of paper will not allow them to take the guns outright has them stomping their feet and saying "Oh yeah, well then good luck getting ammo!".

Well, those were the predictions. They have attempted hard taxation on ammo in the past and failed, and they were going to attempt it again when all the gun legislation was stopped, so this is actually quite a good guess as to what exactly they are trying to do. Problem is, people still bought, even at $1 per round of .223, by the thousands, mind you.

[so-tex]

I tend to not believe its about arming for marshal law type situation, nor about the government trying to take (more?) control. I think its simply a way the lefties in office can inflict some pain on all the evil law abiding, gun owning racist homophobes by depriving them of their ammo, or at least making it as expensive as possible. The idea that that silly, antique piece of paper will not allow them to take the guns outright has them stomping their feet and saying "Oh yeah, well then good luck getting ammo!".

There is nothing honest about this administration. There is something very dishonest about all administrations IMO, but this one is far and away the shadiest.

Could be you're right. My father said the exact same thing 30 years ago. I quote my father on what he said. "They will never take our guns, they will take away our ammo."