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    Originally Posted by gympunk View Post
    You don't pretend that link is some sort of clear headed unbiased presentation do you?
    That link presented facts and data. Or perhaps you'd prefer to ignore facts and data when making your decisions?

    Anyway, I was responding to where you said you agreed with the ridiculous first post of this thread, which included misinformation about "automatic" weapons, saying "fck the 2nd amendment", and the suggestion that other people's children be killed.
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    After reading that Rolling Stone article on McCrystal I don't know if I'd be making him the mascot of my cause.
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    Love How the Vice President, mind you the dumbest VP we have ever had, nevertheless he said We need more Gun laws, because we don`t have the Time or Manpower to enforce the ones we have now--------I mean Really, this is the best & brightest ! I gotta laugh & Cry and think of all the sacrifices our Founding Fathers Made and this is what has become of our Nation ! and to have the Constitution Called into question by the likes of People such as him
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    Originally Posted by thomashenry View Post
    Love How the Vice President, mind you the dumbest VP we have ever had, nevertheless he said We need more Gun laws, because we don`t have the Time or Manpower to enforce the ones we have now--------I mean Really, this is the best & brightest ! I gotta laugh & Cry and think of all the sacrifices our Founding Fathers Made and this is what has become of our Nation ! and to have the Constitution Called into question by the likes of People such as him
    I just started a thread on that. I also posted about this too...

    A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten.

    Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days but was reduced to two.

    Attorney Robin Ficker says Mount Carmel Area School District officials labeled the girl a 'terrorist threat' for the bubble gun remark, made on January 10 as both girls waited for a school bus.

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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    That link presented facts and data. Or perhaps you'd prefer to ignore facts and data when making your decisions?

    Anyway, I was responding to where you said you agreed with the ridiculous first post of this thread, which included misinformation about "automatic" weapons, saying "fck the 2nd amendment", and the suggestion that other people's children be killed.
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    Originally Posted by EB68 View Post
    Liberals hate "facts and data", it gets in the way of their beliefs.
    I'm starting to think "common sense" is political speak for "independently or in spite of the lack of supporting data," no matter which side invokes it.
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    Originally Posted by thomashenry View Post
    Love How the Vice President, mind you the dumbest VP we have ever had, nevertheless he said We need more Gun laws, because we don`t have the Time or Manpower to enforce the ones we have now--------I mean Really, this is the best & brightest ! I gotta laugh & Cry and think of all the sacrifices our Founding Fathers Made and this is what has become of our Nation ! and to have the Constitution Called into question by the likes of People such as him
    LOL That ranks right up there with the quote from another mental giant: "We've got to pass this legislation so we can find out what's in it." You couldn't make this stuff up!
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    Originally Posted by thomashenry View Post
    Love How the Vice President, mind you the dumbest VP we have ever had, nevertheless he said We need more Gun laws, because we don`t have the Time or Manpower to enforce the ones we have now--------
    And yet... lol

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    Originally Posted by JRT6 View Post
    After reading that Rolling Stone article on McCrystal I don't know if I'd be making him the mascot of my cause.
    As opposed to,say, Ted Nugent- Hero of the 2nd Amendment spokesmen.
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    Originally Posted by gympunk View Post
    That link is OK, I've read all that stuff before. You don't pretend that link is some sort of clear headed unbiased presentation do you? General McChrystal & I are on the same side of this issue , I'm good.
    I see where you brought up McChrystal.

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    As opposed to,say, Ted Nugent- Hero of the 2nd Amendment spokesmen.
    I can't find where he brought up Nugent. I'm not saying he didn't, I just don't see it.
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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    That link presented facts and data. Or perhaps you'd prefer to ignore facts and data when making your decisions?

    Anyway, I was responding to where you said you agreed with the ridiculous first post of this thread, which included misinformation about "automatic" weapons, saying "fck the 2nd amendment", and the suggestion that other people's children be killed.
    That's fair enough, I do know the difference between automatic & semi-automatic weapons & I actually do support the 2nd Amendment (though not the "Guns 1st people 2nd. Here comes the UN" delusional NRA approach ).
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    Originally Posted by mslman71 View Post
    I see where you brought up McChrystal.

    I can't find where he brought up Nugent. I'm not saying he didn't, I just don't see it.
    No, you're right I brought up Ted Nugent. Is that not allowed?
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    Originally Posted by gympunk View Post
    No, you're right I brought up Ted Nugent. Is that not allowed?
    I suppose if you are debating or having a discussion with yourself it's perfectly fine.

    As far as I can tell the two are entirely unrelated.
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    Originally Posted by gympunk View Post
    As opposed to,say, Ted Nugent- Hero of the 2nd Amendment spokesmen.

    He is in good company you know, with the founders and all.
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    Dang, on spread...
    Got him.

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    A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten.

    Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days but was reduced to two.
    She's lucky she didn't get life! Never whip out the old "pink, toy gun that shoots soapy bubbles" threat in front of morons, because it'll cost ya, bruh!

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    Originally Posted by gympunk View Post
    As opposed to,say, Ted Nugent- Hero of the 2nd Amendment spokesmen.
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    Originally Posted by thomashenry View Post
    Love How the Vice President, mind you the dumbest VP we have ever had, nevertheless he said We need more Gun laws, because we don`t have the Time or Manpower to enforce the ones we have now--------I mean Really, this is the best & brightest ! I gotta laugh & Cry and think of all the sacrifices our Founding Fathers Made and this is what has become of our Nation ! and to have the Constitution Called into question by the likes of People such as him
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    Originally Posted by thomashenry View Post
    Love How the Vice President, mind you the dumbest VP we have ever had, nevertheless he said We need more Gun laws, because we don`t have the Time or Manpower to enforce the ones we have now--------I mean Really, this is the best & brightest ! I gotta laugh & Cry and think of all the sacrifices our Founding Fathers Made and this is what has become of our Nation ! and to have the Constitution Called into question by the likes of People such as him
    The moron also recently claimed to have heard the shots from a school shooting while golfing a quarter mile away. The reality is the closest course is five miles away, and thats a lousy public course, not the type big shot politicians frequent. The next closest is better than ten miles away. It at no time occurs to him that he shouldn't make dishonest claims to make his points.

    I don't like Obama, but Biden is just another level of slime worse. What an absolutely disgusting human being he is.
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    He is in good company you know, with the founders and all.
    Yeah, he's brilliant ........(See what I mean)
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    Originally Posted by gympunk View Post
    As opposed to,say, Ted Nugent- Hero of the 2nd Amendment spokesmen.
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    He is in good company you know, with the founders and all.
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    Yeah, he's brilliant ........(See what I mean)
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    Originally Posted by gympunk View Post
    That's fair enough, I do know the difference between automatic & semi-automatic weapons & I actually do support the 2nd Amendment (though not the "Guns 1st people 2nd. Here comes the UN" delusional NRA approach ).
    You do realize this giant statue sits in front of the main entrence to the UN bulding in NY right?

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    You do realize this giant statue sits in front of the main entrence to the UN bulding in NY right?

    It should look like this...

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    It should look like this...

    I think the first one is the goal the second one is the result.
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    He is in good company you know, with the founders and all.
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    Yeah, he's brilliant ........(See what I mean)
    So our founding father's were wrong. I guess that would include the first ammendment as well.
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    Originally Posted by so-tex View Post
    So our founding father's were wrong. I guess that would include the first ammendment as well.
    Banging your head against a concrete wall on this one. Trying to equate the validity of a concept or position with the attitude of one single supporter or advocate, not to mention that no one brought up Nugent in the first place, is a pretty transparent tactic that has nothing to do with debating the validity of the concept or position itself.
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    Originally Posted by mslman71 View Post
    Banging your head against a concrete wall on this one. Trying to equate the validity of a concept or position with the attitude of one single supporter or advocate, not to mention that no one brought up Nugent in the first place, is a pretty transparent tactic that has nothing to do with debating the validity of the concept or position itself.
    Well, it does lend itself for people to post o/t and sound like idiots.
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    Originally Posted by so-tex View Post
    Well, it does lend itself for people to post o/t and sound like idiots.
    That's what the debate is for
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    There is absolutely no reason any civilian should have access to an automatic weapon, NONE. Why the f'ck would a mom want to purchase the type of guns this woman had? Why, for what? To hunt? What the f'ck was she planning on hunting 1000 ducks? 100 deers, WHAT? Why would any civilian need a gun that can shoot multiple bullets within seconds? If you want a gun to protect your home, get a revolver or a shotgun/rifle why would you need an AK47 or a glock? Who do you think is going to break into your home, the army? Wake the f'ck up people, there is no need for any person to own any kind of automatic weapon, there is absolutely no reason, NONE, any civilian should own a automatic or semi-automatic gun, none. These guns are made to kill period. I do however understand owning a hand gun (revolver) or shotgun/rifle in your home or place of business for protection. F'ck the second amendment/right to bear arms, the people who wrote it (and the ones who protect/believe in it) are f'cking dumb retarded motherf'ckers that should have THEIR children killed with an automatic weapon, maybe see first hand what that kind of gun does to the head of a child.

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    What a wonderful time that was, I happened to be living in SO Cal and worked in LA, my good friend worked @ City Ford {don`t know if it is still there} , I think it was on Figueroa, anyway, he was frightened out of his mind, I didnt work as close to the center of the idiocy about to explode in South Central, I do remember the Fire Dept not being able to address Fires because some decided to shoot at em, I remember vividly shop Keepers on Roofs, with SEMI AUTOMATIC weapons protecting their Business from the Criminals unleashed upon them and roaming free, I remember Reginald Denny being dragged out of tandem axle gravel truck and being beaten senseless and having a cinder block broke over his face, instead of Double Clutching that rig right through who ever stood in that intersection, I also drove to work the rest of the week Locked & Loaded, It was a nightmare to say the least and truly the people who paid the biggest price were the residents of South Central----------Could something like that happen on a Mass Scale across the Nation en masse ? with all the ill will, Political divisiveness being promoted and stoked, Racial tension, Class warfare, disparity among people , lack of trust , abject hatred ? There is a nastiness and a simmering distrust coupled with anger that would not take much I do believe, but then it`s just my Opinion, nevertheless I pray for hope and reason and just keep a watchful eye and I am not one f the sheeple and I know How to protect my Family and will never relinquish that to or for anyone
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    Gotta love the Connecticut deal, they actually expect current owners of magazines capable of holding more than 10 rds to actually come on in and register them.

    Around here the gun supply is starting to get somewhat back to normal but the ammo deal is nuts, good luck finding .22lr at any of the big box stores. Small independent gun shops have plenty but places like Gander mtn, Walmart, Farm & Fleet, etc are sold out of most handgun rds as well as anything for the typical so called assault rifles such as AR's, AK47's, etc.

    I picked up an old chinese SKS a couple weeks ago, already had ammo but I got just a few more boxes from my secret dealer source
    Also bought a Kel-Tec PLR-16 handgun last week, this thing shoots .223/5.56 rifles rds and is basically an AR15 pistol. Took almost a week to find the forend and muzzle brake for it but those will be here monday. Also got .223 ammo once againa from my favorite secret source and the price is the same as it was many months ago, unlike a lot of online shops or even 1 local place that wanted $32 for 20 rds............total crooks.

    For anyone who doesn't know this is an SKS, holds 10 rds and fires the 7.62x39 cartridge. can be modified to accept AK47 magazines but i'm leaving mine in stock configuration.


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