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12-28-2012, 08:04 AM #871
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12-28-2012, 08:44 AM #872
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12-28-2012, 09:07 AM #873
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12-28-2012, 09:16 AM #874
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12-28-2012, 09:25 AM #875
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There are many freedoms in the constitution... Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, Freedom to defend yourself, Freedom to choose your religion. What you do with those freedoms is up to you .. You are also free to let people take those freedoms from you. Let your government pass some of these laws they are talking about and that is exactly what will happen.. If the Feinstein bill is passed, that opens the door to other things. Who is to say where it will end, they Modify the second ammendment saying there are certain ones you cant have, and if you have them before the date, they want to have them registered and pay money on them. With knowing who has them it would not take much to say, we are going to confiscate them which violates right to illegal search and seizure.. It's coming people
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12-28-2012, 09:28 AM #876
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12-28-2012, 09:39 AM #877
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12-28-2012, 09:44 AM #878
There is SOOOOOOO much wrong with this post that I don't even know where to begin...
Not one automatic was seen that day.
A revolver takes longer to reload than a semi-auto and has the same effect, squeeze, fire, squeeze, fire, multiple times without reloading.
An AK-47 IS a rifle.
Again, none of her weapons were Class III in ANY way, much less FA.
A revolver is essentially a semi-auto, as explained a few lines up.
A third time, not a SINGLE automatic weapon was used/seen/heard that day.
Srs, learn to logic before spewing chit all over the internet that is going to make you look incredibly slow/retarded.*Negged by Constitution hating *******s crew*
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12-28-2012, 09:44 AM #879
thing is...the government doesn't 'give' anyone, anything. lol they only stand to 'give out' anything at all, because of taxpayers. they need us more than we need them...or it should be that way, anyways. the government...designed by the people for the people...what happened to that? hmmm...
that's not a knock to obama. i actually think the pre-existing conditions of our government, made obama poised to become president. i did not vote for him, but...he gets too much blame for everything that was already broken within our system.
anyways...as i said...will be interesting!Last edited by whatevergirl; 12-28-2012 at 09:44 AM. Reason: subtracted a smiley face lol
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12-28-2012, 09:48 AM #880
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12-28-2012, 09:55 AM #881
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12-28-2012, 09:56 AM #882
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12-28-2012, 09:59 AM #883
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12-28-2012, 10:02 AM #884
somewhat agree. again...government by the people, for the people...hmmm...maybe that mantra is true afterall! lol
honestly, it's a whole host of things that contributed to where we are. the government plays a role, and the people. but the media, too. they distort facts, and we are such an 'instant gratification' society now, that we can't be bothered to listen to everything about an issue. so you catch a snippit here and there, and if it suits your own ideals...welp...that's good enough. meanwhile, you're not listening to the entire story.
slippery slopes are usually built by many factors, not just one. it's convenient to blame it all on obama though. lol but, it won't get to the root cause of how to fix things.
if you're the praying kind, pray for this great nation of ours. that helps, too!
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12-28-2012, 10:04 AM #885
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12-28-2012, 10:05 AM #886
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12-28-2012, 10:09 AM #887
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12-28-2012, 10:55 AM #888
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12-28-2012, 11:03 AM #889
The government enables this though. Did you know that when you figure out the dollar per hour of a person on full welfare, it comes out to $30 per hour or more!? The people on welfare would most likely never see anything over $15, so there is absolutely no incentive to come off. The only way to get people to get off of welfare is to make poverty uncomfortable, but we managed to make it a luxurious event.
You know the Obama admin has been running an ad campaign encouraging people to get on food stamps so that Americans can be healthy. We should be encouraging peope to NOT be on food stamps. Course, I am a firm believer that the government wants people dependent on them.One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
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12-28-2012, 11:07 AM #890
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12-28-2012, 11:09 AM #891
I figure you're probably deliberately exaggerating a little bit but poverty isn't luxurious. However it's now a reasonable balance between the activation barrier of going out and slinging burgers for minimum wage versus not having much but enough to get by and not having to do anything for it. It isn't the good life. It isn't glamorous. But, if you don't have many options, the self respect to do for yourself either because of your own personality or because of the one that evolved due to your environment, or are just a lazy POS then it's a reasonable way to sustain existence indefinitely. Personally it would be a death sentence for me. I can't imagine having either no motivation to get out or so little of a clue to know that there are ways out.
I don't oppose the safety net exactly. It doesn't cost me much. I'd rather he be handled state by state but it is what it is. I don't like it being an agreeable end-point for anyone. I sure as sh*t don't like getting in line at the convenience store and seeing someone buy his snacks with the federal debit card and his lottery tickets and beer with cash.2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of 2)
Try SCE to AUX
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12-28-2012, 03:03 PM #892
Well, I was exaggerating a bit when I used the word "luxurious", but, I can tell you, that for several years I was living alone, making $10-12 per hour, and I was getting by. The thought of making an equivalent of $30 would have certainly made me feel like I was living the good life. It's all relative. Many of my friends who are paramedics, EMTs, and some firefighters, would LOVE to make that much money. I made just shy of $17 as a medic and I had a college degree.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
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12-29-2012, 01:38 PM #893
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12-29-2012, 03:43 PM #894
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12-29-2012, 03:56 PM #895
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But...but...but...this isn't back then! Even though history continues to repeat itself, to the chagrin of the ignorant, and even though tyrannical governments have never been banished forever and even grow in number......this could never, ever happen to us U.S. citizens. After all, we have a different species of human beings here that watch over us and protect us!
[end sarcasm]
I don't own a gun and don't feel the need to (at this point in time), but I damn well defend the right of others to.
Generations - they think "old stuff" can't happen to them. Get off that new android tablet and smart phone and realize that you could be moments away from being in a fetal position.......................dumb $hits.
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12-29-2012, 03:59 PM #896
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12-29-2012, 04:01 PM #897
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12-29-2012, 04:07 PM #898
x2.
These people should go back and read some commentary from the various periods, especially in the post industrial revolution to WWI range, and see how many people were sure they had figured out all there was to figure out and how society had advanced past all of those primitive ills that had plagued it in the past. 65 years is a blink of an eye in human history and while we've changed we're still the same animals we always have been.2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of 2)
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12-29-2012, 04:11 PM #899
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That's probably stretching it a bit...as we're talking ethnicity at this ^ point, not specific citizenry. And many forget how many Jews were killed in Russia and elsewhere, not just Germany. Every country has their own laws, and I respect that...depending, lol. But this is a U.S. based conversation and we should probably keep it as such.
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12-29-2012, 06:40 PM #900
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