My FB post on guns & civillians...

[GuyJin]

85 on some highways in Texas.

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They have highways in Texas?



(Joke!)

[so-tex]

So to simply keep with the flow of traffic, one DOES need a vehicle that can travel over 55mph, apparently.

It would be a good idea.

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They have highways in Texas?



(Joke!)

Actually, we have some of the best highways in America srs.

[Trinity1216]

Yes but to follow peoples logic how guns should be restricted/banned......


Found by just doing a quick google search
7,500 people die of gunshot wounds per year and 35,000 people die in traffic accidents.


These of course are just averages.


So if we follow this logic we should also call for a ban on motor vehicles.


EDIT: Forgot to add the link where this came up...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9205010AAy0sZb

[Kraken]

85 on some highways in Texas.

I have had the opportunity to travel on a highway now that has a limit of 85. The crazy thing is, when I first came to Texas, I thought it was awesome to be able to do 70 because this state is so big it takes many, many hours to get some places. I then got out on a highway with a limit of 85, and people were getting just downright nuts. No matter how hight he limit, people will ALWAYS break it by at least 10mph. I was traveling at 88mph (Keep in mind, I am driving a diesel), and cars were just flying by me. These folks were doing close to 100 mph and above. I honestly felt that I reached my threshold of what is "fast" for a highway, maybe too fast.

[so-tex]

I have had the opportunity to travel on a highway now that has a limit of 85. The crazy thing is, when I first came to Texas, I thought it was awesome to be able to do 70 because this state is so big it takes many, many hours to get some places. I then got out on a highway with a limit of 85, and people were getting just downright nuts. No matter how hight he limit, people will ALWAYS break it by at least 10mph. I was traveling at 88mph (Keep in mind, I am driving a diesel), and cars were just flying by me. These folks were doing close to 100 mph and above. I honestly felt that I reached my threshold of what is "fast" for a highway, maybe too fast.

Welcome to the Texas 'autobahn' . The *** do not give any leeway on the 85 speed limit. If you think it is bad here, try traveling the toll road to Monterrey, Mexico. Several years back, when it opened up, I was doing 100 mph, and cars were passing me by like a granny going to church on Sunday.

[Kraken]

Welcome to the Texas 'autobahn' . The *** do not give any leeway on the 85 speed limit. If you think it is bad here, try traveling the toll road to Monterrey, Mexico. Several years back, when it opened up, I was doing 100 mph, and cars were passing me by like a granny going to church on Sunday.

lol No thanks, at least, not in a 2500 4 door diesel. This thing doesn't handle like a sports car. It runs great, and an easily pull hard to 100mph, but I don't feel comfortable doing that, especially with a wife, a 3 and 5 year old too. Hopefully if I just stay in the right lane, people will miss me. lol

[bigvin73]

Yes but to follow peoples logic how guns should be restricted/banned......


Found by just doing a quick google search
7,500 people die of gunshot wounds per year and 35,000 people die in traffic accidents.


These of course are just averages.


So if we follow this logic we should also call for a ban on motor vehicles.


EDIT: Forgot to add the link where this came up...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9205010AAy0sZb

Since we insist on using cars. How many cars are on the road in comparison to how many guns are in circulation? How much time is spent driving a car in comparison to shooting a gun? How often are cars driven in comparison to shooting guns? Lets do this comparison fair. Someone said know all the facts before making a desicion. Lets get them all.

Before someone says that irrelevant be sure you've never considered body weight as applied to strength CPR used it as a ratio as it is the same thing. If there is 10 million cars on the road daily and 10,000 guns fired a day the rate of incident would be much higher in cars due to statistical chances of an accident. So using your numbers lets say for argument t sake there are 1million cars and what 100,000 guns? 35k out of a million is much better ratio then 7500 in 100,000. That's not including any usage rates such as people drive for the most part at the least 30 min a day not many people shoot guns 30 min a day.

Need me to further shoot holes in this stupid comparison between guns and cars?
How many people die a year due to food ie allergys choking over eating lets compare food and guns. Holy **** people while I support your right to have guns the car argument is completely stupid

[acrawlingchaos]

Since we insist on using cars. How many cars are on the road in comparison to how many guns are in circulation? How much time is spent driving a car in comparison to shooting a gun? How often are cars driven in comparison to shooting guns? Lets do this comparison fair. Someone said know all the facts before making a desicion. Lets get them all.

In America, there are 812 privately owned vehicles per 1000 people, and 888 guns per 1000 people.

If there is 10 million cars on the road daily and 10,000 guns fired a day the rate of incident would be much higher in cars due to statistical chances of an accident. So using your numbers lets say for argument t sake there are 1million cars and what 100,000 guns? 35k out of a million is much better ratio then 7500 in 100,000. That's not including any usage rates such as people drive for the most part at the least 30 min a day not many people shoot guns 30 min a day.

The facts are off. There are just as many guns, as cars in America. I think (however) that this wasn't the point.

Need me to further shoot holes in this stupid comparison between guns and cars?
How many people die a year due to food ie allergys choking over eating lets compare food and guns. Holy **** people while I support your right to have guns the car argument is completely stupid

It isn't a foolish argument. When we are looking at the mentally unstable (or those hell bent on causing harm), a 5000 lbs pick up becomes a killing machine. For those evil enough to want to cause grievous harm , taking away a rifle is going to do little to stop them.

[Oceanside]

comparing guns to cars is beyond stupid !



that is all..


carry on !

[acrawlingchaos]

comparing guns to cars is beyond stupid !

that is all..

carry on !

It isn't the only thing ITT that is!!!!!!!!!!




EDIT:
What exactly is "beyond stupid"? Just curious.

[Oceanside]

shut up jeff !

[Karl_Hungus]

It isn't a foolish argument. When we are looking at the mentally unstable (or those hell bent on causing harm), a 5000 lbs pick up becomes a killing machine. For those evil enough to want to cause grievous harm , taking away a rifle is going to do little to stop them.

Hell, look at all the damage Tim McVeigh did with a moving truck and a bunch of fertilizer. He killed more people in one day than all the school shootings in the last 30 years COMBINED.

[Trinity1216]

comparing guns to cars is beyond stupid !

that is all..

carry on !

EXACTLY! This whole topic about banning cars, guns, etc. is ridiculous.

It's not the car or gun that is doing the killing, it is the person.

Like I said earlier in this thread a gun cannot walk into a school or mall and kill people. And a parked car cannot kill someone (unless it is Christine of course).

[LWW]

from the outside looking in....... I'm not a right or left winger.

"republian fair if you a multi millionaire, democrat fair if all you own is what you wear, hot plate in heaven at the green hotel" ZAPPA.

the right act like the 2nd is being abolished, well I ain't hearing any signs of that, the administration himself say he belive in right to bear arms.

you'll still get to shoot yer guns, just not a "bushmans", ah well, hey I want an amp for my geetar, aint' going to happen, ah well, it's small potatos.

in all these school shooting the punks always steal the parents weapons. If your intruder is high on PCP yer gun may not stop him.

better home defense, FIRST put a 100lb sandbag at the dooor (keep another nearby) it takes time and noise to get through 200lbs (first responders could make it there in time) unscrew lightbulbs, get "night vision" mace and a sword,axe or sledgehammer.

[paolo59]

Welcome to the Texas 'autobahn' . The *** do not give any leeway on the 85 speed limit. If you think it is bad here, try traveling the toll road to Monterrey, Mexico. Several years back, when it opened up, I was doing 100 mph, and cars were passing me by like a granny going to church on Sunday.

Ha ha, that toll road is nice! I can remember the little two-lane highway they had before. Travelled that bumby thing for years. 140 kilometers an hour was pretty much standard in Mexico on any half-way decent highway.

[VoxExMachina]

from the outside looking in....... I'm not a right or left winger.

"republian fair if you a multi millionaire, democrat fair if all you own is what you wear, hot plate in heaven at the green hotel" ZAPPA.

the right act like the 2nd is being abolished, well I ain't hearing any signs of that, the administration himself say he belive in right to bear arms.

you'll still get to shoot yer guns, just not a "bushmans", ah well, hey I want an amp for my geetar, aint' going to happen, ah well, it's small potatos.

in all these school shooting the punks always steal the parents weapons. If your intruder is high on PCP yer gun may not stop him.

better home defense, FIRST put a 100lb sandbag at the dooor (keep another nearby) it takes time and noise to get through 200lbs (first responders could make it there in time) unscrew lightbulbs, get "night vision" mace and a sword,axe or sledgehammer.

WTF did I just read?

[HairyScandinavian]

85 on some highways in Texas.

It would be a good idea.

Actually, we have some of the best highways in America srs.

x2 when I go out of state I'm always surprised at the condition of some of the roads I find myself on. Loves me some 85mph speed limits.

I have had the opportunity to travel on a highway now that has a limit of 85. The crazy thing is, when I first came to Texas, I thought it was awesome to be able to do 70 because this state is so big it takes many, many hours to get some places. I then got out on a highway with a limit of 85, and people were getting just downright nuts. No matter how hight he limit, people will ALWAYS break it by at least 10mph. I was traveling at 88mph (Keep in mind, I am driving a diesel), and cars were just flying by me. These folks were doing close to 100 mph and above. I honestly felt that I reached my threshold of what is "fast" for a highway, maybe too fast.

It's the old "10 over" rule, normally you don't get a ticket unless you exceed 10+ mph over the limit. Having said that, state troopers don't screw with it and I've talked to peeps that got tickets for 2mph over in some 75 and 85 mph zones. Seems the "10 over" tolerance ends in the 70mph zones.

Since we insist on using cars. How many cars are on the road in comparison to how many guns are in circulation? How much time is spent driving a car in comparison to shooting a gun? How often are cars driven in comparison to shooting guns? Lets do this comparison fair. Someone said know all the facts before making a desicion. Lets get them all.

Before someone says that irrelevant be sure you've never considered body weight as applied to strength CPR used it as a ratio as it is the same thing. If there is 10 million cars on the road daily and 10,000 guns fired a day the rate of incident would be much higher in cars due to statistical chances of an accident. So using your numbers lets say for argument t sake there are 1million cars and what 100,000 guns? 35k out of a million is much better ratio then 7500 in 100,000. That's not including any usage rates such as people drive for the most part at the least 30 min a day not many people shoot guns 30 min a day.

Need me to further shoot holes in this stupid comparison between guns and cars?
How many people die a year due to food ie allergys choking over eating lets compare food and guns. Holy **** people while I support your right to have guns the car argument is completely stupid

ACC already proved that this post was brain dead, but I'll just point out the car argument is stupid because the gun argument is stupid... that's the point. Banning guns is the same as banning cars. And quit saying you support the right to have guns, you're just a closet lib that's trying to infiltrate the other side for credibility... go ahead and admit it!

[HairyScandinavian]

Ha ha, that toll road is nice! I can remember the little two-lane highway they had before. Travelled that bumby thing for years. 140 kilometers an hour was pretty much standard in Mexico on any half-way decent highway.

I haven't been down since they made that toll road. I remember on our way to Sabinas the highway was so skinny that buses coming the other direction would have one tire in the dirt and one tire a foot over in our lane. Our tires would be fully in the dirt trying not to get killed. Those buses did like 80+ too, they would fly! It was tough pulling the flatbed trailer full of gear, holy sheet man we would watch our trailer fenders come within an inch of those buses.

[DubfromGA]

from the outside looking in....... I'm not a right or left winger.

"republian fair if you a multi millionaire, democrat fair if all you own is what you wear, hot plate in heaven at the green hotel" ZAPPA.

the right act like the 2nd is being abolished, well I ain't hearing any signs of that, the administration himself say he belive in right to bear arms.

you'll still get to shoot yer guns, just not a "bushmans", ah well, hey I want an amp for my geetar, aint' going to happen, ah well, it's small potatos.

in all these school shooting the punks always steal the parents weapons. If your intruder is high on PCP yer gun may not stop him.

better home defense, FIRST put a 100lb sandbag at the dooor (keep another nearby) it takes time and noise to get through 200lbs (first responders could make it there in time) unscrew lightbulbs, get "night vision" mace and a sword,axe or sledgehammer.

Stupid sh¡t.

Quit smoking dope and let your head clear.


Morons gonna moron.

[Marius_Ursus]

Stupid sh¡t.

Quit smoking dope and let your head clear.


Morons gonna moron.

You're just upset because you're one of them republians.

[drudixon]

Cars v guns is a terrible example. People don't shoot guns for hours a day every day in proximity of 1,000 other people shooting guns for hours a day every day.

6. Atlanta – Interstate 285 in both directions between I-75 and I-85. Home to six major interstates, Atlanta is a major checkpoint for driving destinations across the Southeast. Interstate 285 is the busiest of Atlanta’s interstates with an astounding 2 million daily drivers – mix in holiday travelers and shoppers and frustration will be cooking in Atlanta.

[DubfromGA]

You're just upset because you're one of them republians.

Yup.


Guilty as charged.

[Smelly bull]

from the outside looking in....... I'm not a right or left winger.

"republian fair if you a multi millionaire, democrat fair if all you own is what you wear, hot plate in heaven at the green hotel" ZAPPA.

the right act like the 2nd is being abolished, well I ain't hearing any signs of that, the administration himself say he belive in right to bear arms.

you'll still get to shoot yer guns, just not a "bushmans", ah well, hey I want an amp for my geetar, aint' going to happen, ah well, it's small potatos.

in all these school shooting the punks always steal the parents weapons. If your intruder is high on PCP yer gun may not stop him.

better home defense, FIRST put a 100lb sandbag at the dooor (keep another nearby) it takes time and noise to get through 200lbs (first responders could make it there in time) unscrew lightbulbs, get "night vision" mace and a sword,axe or sledgehammer.

I think we just found BBsitum's redneck brother.

[mslman71]

I think we just found BBsitum's redneck brother.

Unscrewing light bulbs - home defense for the 21st century.

[Bushmaster]

in all these school shooting the punks always steal the parents weapons. If your intruder is high on PCP yer gun may not stop him.

If you shoot him enough, and in the right places he'll stop.

[HairyScandinavian]

Unscrewing light bulbs - home defense for the 21st century.

inb4 banning of unscrewed lightbulbs due to too many people getting hurt walking around in the dark in their own house.

[Dave76]

inb4 banning of unscrewed lightbulbs due to too many people getting hurt walking around in the dark in their own house.

Banning unscrewed light bulbs won't help. First off, the criminals will still have unscrewed light bulbs. Secondly, law abiding citizens will just use the light switches instead.

[DeTazMan]

I found these stats and found them interesting..



Over twice the number of Handguns as compared to "Assault Weapons"

[Kraken]

I found these stats and found them interesting..



Over twice the number of Handguns as compared to "Assault Weapons"

I might be mistaken, but in the assault weapon bill, they include semi auto handguns as assault weapons, at least, I know one of the old forms of the bill did. They are now just lumping them all together without anyone know any better.

The other thing that people fail to see is that guns aren't the deadliest method used in mass murders. Other methods, including explosives, planes etc, have caused more deaths than guns have in mass murders. A gun is actually an inefficient method.

[Trinity1216]

I might be mistaken, but in the assault weapon bill, they include semi auto handguns as assault weapons, at least, I know one of the old forms of the bill did. They are now just lumping them all together without anyone know any better.

The other thing that people fail to see is that guns aren't the deadliest method used in mass murders. Other methods, including explosives, planes etc, have caused more deaths than guns have in mass murders. A gun is actually an inefficient method.

Don't forget poisoning as well. Jim Jones killed 909 people including himself and 303 of them were children.