Bodybuilding.com Information Motivation Supplementation
in:

    The World’s #1 Bodybuilding And Fitness Forum - Save Up To 50% Off Retail Prices In Our Bodybuilding.com Store!

Reply
Results 1 to 14 of 14
  1. #1
    IIFYM: if it fits your mg Jelet's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2008
    Stats: 5'11", 235 lbs
    Posts: 9,997
    Rep Power: 20176
    Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Jelet has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Jelet's BodySpace
    Jelet is offline

    anyone ever have a herniated disc before? who the fk do i see? orthopedics doctor?

    i dont know which section to post this in. but im going to post it here because this is the over 35 section and would like experienced peoples thoughts...

    which type of doctor do i see?

    I rushed to the emergency room in an ambulance on tuesday night squatting 310 pounds.

    at the bottom of the movement my back gave. and i heard a pop. i then took a seat and it hurt real bad. i thought about my future how this can effect me if im out for the gym for a long time and then got dizzy and laid to the floor almost passed out... and then couldnt get up and then i got an ambulance to bring to me the hospital.

    they took an xray and heres what the report says.


    "Examination:CT lumbar Spine"

    Indication:weight lifting injury

    comparison: none

    Technique: 3mm thick axial images were obtained through lumbar spine without intravenous contrast. Thin section reformatted images were obtained in the axial, coronal, and sagittal planes.

    Findings:

    The paraspinal soft tissues are unremarkable.

    There is no evidence of acute lumbar spine fracture. The reformatted images demonstrate unremarkable alignment the lumbar spine with maintenance of the vertebral body weights.


    There is evidence of early loss of disc space at the L4-L5 level. there is a moderate degree of left paracentral disc protrusion which indents the thecal sac to left of midline. the the disc protrusion extends laterally to slightly narrow the left neuroforamen.

    impression: evidence of degenerative disc disease at L4-L5 with moderate left paracentral disc protrusion which extends laterally to the left to slightly narrow the neuroforamen"



    it also says "no gym till seen by specailist" but wtf is a specialist. (srs) who do i see? an orthopedics doctor? which type of doctor do isee?




    this is truly the worst 6 months of my life. first my shoulder kept me out of the gym, just started recently training upper body again(but still couldnt train shoulders or chest.. but i was getting there..) and now i got this.

    FML
    MY RESPECT LIST : ShayZ, , dickyoliver, zuludddd, Thomas.of.Hunter, BigAnf, Chestbrah, Supaturk, Zyzz, , jcapo, zer0xp , Rasc170,wollo7,ajcoop20,softpounder
    -------
    *L4-l5 Herniated Disc Crew*
    *slap tear shoulder injury crew*
    * "what bodybuild want bodybuild get"- GH15*
    *cant piss with people next to me , even if i stand for 10 minutes if people keep coming crew*
    *YIAMSOMEBODY Crew*
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Registered User PapaBunny's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2012
    Location: Arizona, United States
    Stats: 6'4", 237 lbs
    Posts: 143
    Rep Power: 1186
    PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit PapaBunny's BodySpace
    PapaBunny is offline
    I have the same issue a little lower. My DDD extends from the base of my head to my lower lumbar and I have multiple bulging disks. Bulging and heniated are different. Bulging has not made it past the annulus fibrosus(the stuff that holds the disk in place) but instead puts pressure on it and bulges out putting pressure on nerves and causing all sorts of crazy pain issues. Herniated is when the disk tissue is out past the annulus fibrosus.


    You shold consult your PCM and they should refer you to Ortho and/or Pain Management. Ortho will tell you if you need surgery if not pain management will try to help manage the pain (without really fixing anything) This has been my experience---yours may differ.

    I had multiple injections at the site of the bulges but they did not work so I had a procedure called a an IDET ---http://www.neurotherm.com/idetprocedure/


    this procedure simply kills the nerves around the disk and helps to aleiviate the pain cause by the bulge hitting nerves.

    If the disk is indeed herniated they can go in and shave off the herniation and after some healing you could be g2g.

    Good luck, this type of injury is so different in everyone that gets it, it can casue little to no issues or it can cause crazy ammounts of pain and other issues.
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User KenJenkinsII's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2011
    Stats: 6'1", 210 lbs
    Posts: 760
    Rep Power: 945
    KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit KenJenkinsII's BodySpace
    KenJenkinsII is offline
    I had this and went to my pcp and did pain management but it was only temporary relief. The chiropractor is the only thing that helped me get better.
    The Unexamined Life is not worth living
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Registered User PapaBunny's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2012
    Location: Arizona, United States
    Stats: 6'4", 237 lbs
    Posts: 143
    Rep Power: 1186
    PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit PapaBunny's BodySpace
    PapaBunny is offline
    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    I had this and went to my pcp and did pain management but it was only temporary relief. The chiropractor is the only thing that helped me get better.

    Man, thats awesome. I wish I could have found relief with the Chiro. Really would have made things easier. I have talked to others who have experienced positive results with a chiro too but the guy I have to see just made stuff worse and I could not afford to pay for a different one on my own.
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Train hard play harder Tommy W.'s Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2006
    Age: 61
    Stats: 6'0", 180 lbs
    Posts: 7,434
    BodyPoints: 2585
    Rep Power: 10110
    Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Tommy W. has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Tommy W.'s BodySpace
    Tommy W. is offline
    Go to a neurosurgeon. Ortho's are great for some things but when it comes to discs you need a spine guy
    Yes I'm 61 and natural



    Abs are made in the gym and exposed in the kitchen.



    Everything you do in the gym has a cost, but not everything necessarily has a benefit."
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Registered User beachguy498's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2009
    Location: Brightwaters, New York, United States
    Age: 59
    Stats: 5'11", 233 lbs
    Posts: 5,432
    Rep Power: 9035
    beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) beachguy498 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit beachguy498's BodySpace
    beachguy498 is offline
    Right now you have a lot of trauma to the area, so I'd get to an orthopedic doctor, bring the MRI report. Ice it up and don't do anything that causes pain in the mean time. I've had chiropractic help with my lower back, although most orthos lean towards PT. Unfortunately a lumbar injury is one that takes time and rest to heal.

    Rob
    "I'll have YOU removed if you don't stop. I have a little system of my own." -- Charles Manson
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    Registered User KenJenkinsII's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2011
    Stats: 6'1", 210 lbs
    Posts: 760
    Rep Power: 945
    KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit KenJenkinsII's BodySpace
    KenJenkinsII is offline
    Originally Posted by PapaBunny View Post
    Man, thats awesome. I wish I could have found relief with the Chiro. Really would have made things easier. I have talked to others who have experienced positive results with a chiro too but the guy I have to see just made stuff worse and I could not afford to pay for a different one on my own.
    My chiro told me the best thing I could do after he had me feeling better was to hang on a chin up bar for one minute every morning and night to decompress my spine. It has been a miracle for me and everyone I have told about it. But I felt like my chiropractor was definitely looking out for my best interest and cared more about getting me better than making money off me. I am sure that is not always the case.
    The Unexamined Life is not worth living
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Registered User PapaBunny's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2012
    Location: Arizona, United States
    Stats: 6'4", 237 lbs
    Posts: 143
    Rep Power: 1186
    PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit PapaBunny's BodySpace
    PapaBunny is offline
    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    My chiro told me the best thing I could do after he had me feeling better was to hang on a chin up bar for one minute every morning and night to decompress my spine. It has been a miracle for me and everyone I have told about it. But I felt like my chiropractor was definitely looking out for my best interest and cared more about getting me better than making money off me. I am sure that is not always the case.
    Funny you say that. I have been on the hunt for a cheap inversion table for that reason. I will hang from a chin up bar and/or hang upside down form the bar for a bit when it is bothering me and it really does help.
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Registered User KenJenkinsII's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2011
    Stats: 6'1", 210 lbs
    Posts: 760
    Rep Power: 945
    KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit KenJenkinsII's BodySpace
    KenJenkinsII is offline
    Originally Posted by PapaBunny View Post
    Funny you say that. I have been on the hunt for a cheap inversion table for that reason. I will hang from a chin up bar and/or hang upside down form the bar for a bit when it is bothering me and it really does help.
    He actually told me that using an inversion table at an older age was not recommended. The risk of sending a blood clot to your brain was higher. So I went with the chin up bar. I feel like I get a better decompression from it than my inversion table anyway.
    The Unexamined Life is not worth living
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Registered User PapaBunny's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2012
    Location: Arizona, United States
    Stats: 6'4", 237 lbs
    Posts: 143
    Rep Power: 1186
    PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) PapaBunny has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit PapaBunny's BodySpace
    PapaBunny is offline
    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    He actually told me that using an inversion table at an older age was not recommended. The risk of sending a blood clot to your brain was higher. So I went with the chin up bar. I feel like I get a better decompression from it than my inversion table anyway.
    Interesting...one would think that at 35 blood clots would not be a big issue. I always chalked that up to an older mans issue...70's plus.
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Registered User KenJenkinsII's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2011
    Stats: 6'1", 210 lbs
    Posts: 760
    Rep Power: 945
    KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) KenJenkinsII has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit KenJenkinsII's BodySpace
    KenJenkinsII is offline
    Originally Posted by PapaBunny View Post
    Interesting...one would think that at 35 blood clots would not be a big issue. I always chalked that up to an older mans issue...70's plus.
    It definitely is more of an issue for men older than you and I.
    The Unexamined Life is not worth living
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Registered User Looton's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Age: 54
    Stats: 5'9", 159 lbs
    Posts: 271
    Rep Power: 160
    Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Looton has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit Looton's BodySpace
    Looton is offline
    I'm no expert. Just feeling your pain Jelet, that's a rough go.

    I had back pain twice from working construction many years. I went to a D.O. and physical therapist, a back specialist at the University of Washington - no help. Just treated symptoms.
    Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_...athic_Medicine
    It wasn't as bad as you and the University of Washington back specialists said jogging was giving the best results and they were still stumped as to why. Better than swimming.

    I hang on the 2x6 wood door jamb on my kid's room door. I hang by fingertips and change my hip position. I stopped doing dead lifts and RDL when my low back got painful. I had to pull my left leg into the car by the pant leg.

    Just my .02 from my experience. Your experience sounds like hell. But it'll work out in time. Other folks have gotten through it, you will too. My ex wife had a disc fused, so did a buddy from work. Surgery should usually be the last option IMHO.
    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in.
    -Twain
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    Registered User sidegrinder's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Age: 44
    Stats: 5'8", 171 lbs
    Posts: 96
    Rep Power: 66
    sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) sidegrinder has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000)
    Visit sidegrinder's BodySpace
    sidegrinder is offline
    Had the same thing happen to me last spring. I was squatting 275# and heard the "pop". Sh$ttiest feeling ever. My pain seemed to be a few inches right of the actual spine. I saw 5 different docs, orthos, and pts. The best thing was being religious about the stretches the pt gave me. They gave me the most relief.
    You only get one back, so take your time with this. I havent done squats or deadlifts since this, and life goes on. Running actually seemed to help also. Weird I can run 15+miles and have no pain, but some days it hurts just from moving dumbells around. Best of luck!
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Canadian in Korea Juggertha's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2012
    Location: Seoul, Seoul, Korea, Republic of
    Age: 40
    Stats: 6'0", 245 lbs
    Posts: 1,258
    Rep Power: 3126
    Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Juggertha has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Juggertha's BodySpace
    Juggertha is offline
    I hate to say this, but I wish backpain was visible.

    I wish I had some massive scar or rash so that people could visually see the pain I go through. Sure, they see it when i drop to the ground... or they get a little shocked when I have to pick up my leg to pull it in the car... but it's generally out of people's minds - even those closest to us.
    I don't lift weights, I flex under duress.

    My 12 month progress thread
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=155962953&p=1113020323#post1113020323
    Reply With Quote

Reply

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Home Store Products Careers Help Contact Us Terms of Use Checkout