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    This might seem like a weird question but does anyone know how credible Emma-Leigh is? She seems to be the guru on the nutrition board but if you look at her body space all you can see is that she has 16% bf and I looked up her website and not a single picture of her there either. It may seem odd but I look at people's body space profile as a way of determining their credibility.
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    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    This might seem like a weird question but does anyone know how credible Emma-Leigh is? She seems to be the guru on the nutrition board but if you look at her body space all you can see is that she has 16% bf and I looked up her website and not a single picture of her there either. It may seem odd but I look at people's body space profile as a way of determining their credibility.
    http://www.emma-leigh.com/about.html

    Also lol @ credibility tied to someone's body space. That was funny.
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    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    This might seem like a weird question but does anyone know how credible Emma-Leigh is? She seems to be the guru on the nutrition board but if you look at her body space all you can see is that she has 16% bf and I looked up her website and not a single picture of her there either. It may seem odd but I look at people's body space profile as a way of determining their credibility.

    Cant help but find funny,.... In one post today you recite how you read in an article that anything more then 4g of sugar ingested is immediately turned to fat. (and you dont question that author). And then one of the most well respected posters and medial doctors on here, you decide to check her "credibility".
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    OP. You do realise that women have different essential body fat percentage limits compared to men and that 16% is perfectly OK?
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    Originally Posted by BloodySalad View Post
    OP. You do realise that women have different essential body fat percentage limits compared to men and that 16% is perfectly OK?
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    I wasn't questioning her credibility I was just wondering who se was. I read everything on her website about her but that was all I could find. I respect several of you guys' opinions based on your progress so I guess that makes me stupid.
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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    Cant help but find funny,.... In one post today you recite how you read in an article that anything more then 4g of sugar ingested is immediately turned to fat. (and you dont question that author). And then one of the most well respected posters and medial doctors on here, you decide to check her "credibility".
    I also asked you what your opinion was on that instead of just taking it at face value but you didn't mention that part.
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    I don't think you are stupid for hunting for a reason to place faith in someone's teachings, but let's be cereal here - photoshoots aren't a great way to do it. Photochops and chemicals are what photos are made of. A bio of "smart stuff" isn't, either. Performance might be a better stick to measure by.
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    Originally Posted by db_ggmm View Post
    I don't think you are stupid for hunting for a reason to place faith in someone's teachings, but let's be cereal here - photoshoots aren't a great way to do it. Photochops and chemicals are what photos are made of. A bio of "smart stuff" isn't, either. Performance might be a better stick to measure by.
    Hence the reason that I am picking the brains of these guys who have had results. Not just someone behind a computer.
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    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    I wasn't questioning her credibility
    Actually you were.....

    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    This might seem like a weird question but does anyone know how credible Emma-Leigh is?
    She is legit and as "credible" as anyone can get.
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    One's physique is not a determining factor of one's knowledge. Emma-leigh is extremely knowledgeable when it comes to nutrition.
    Visit these educational sites on nutritional and supplemental advice:
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    Like anything, it is important to do your own independent research rather than just buying into what somebody says. And honestly, I can name people (one well-known person here) with a stellar physique who are friggin' clueless -- espousing the stupidest broscience that has ever come down the pike. The point? Bodyspace isn't a good indicator, educational degrees aren't a good indicator, and forum reputation is certainly not a good indicator. I don't buy what anybody says unless I research it myself. There are a few people that have proved themselves consistently reliable, such as Alan Aragon. As far as Emma-Leigh goes, you are going to have to determine that for yourself.
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    Like anything, it is important to do your own independent research rather than just buying into what somebody says. And honestly, I can name people (one well-known person here) with a stellar physique who are friggin' clueless -- espousing the stupidest broscience that has ever come down the pike. The point? Bodyspace isn't a good indicator, educational degrees aren't a good indicator, and forum reputation is certainly not a good indicator. I don't buy what anybody says unless I research it myself. There are a few people that have proved themselves consistently reliable, such as Alan Aragon. As far as Emma-Leigh goes, you are going to have to determine that for yourself.
    Thank you that was my point. There are people like Alan who's blog I have been reading today and Martin Berkhan who have clients that show those guys know what they are talking about and Emma seems to be the guru on the nutrition board so I wanted to find out more about her and it seems odd that you can't find much but just a simply done website. I don't doubt she is knowledgable but when i read something by an "expert" I like to know how much I can trust them. I am not an idiot. I read a lot of stuff between articles and forums and I try and decide what is bull crap and what is valuable. If that makes people lol then I am glad.
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    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    I wasn't questioning her credibility I was just wondering who se was. I read everything on her website about her but that was all I could find. I respect several of you guys' opinions based on your progress so I guess that makes me stupid.
    What a loaded question. What do you really know about anyone's progress here or background anyway?

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    OP. You do realise that women have different essential body fat percentage limits compared to men and that 16% is perfectly OK?
    16% is pretty damn lean.
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    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    Thank you that was my point. There are people like Alan who's blog I have been reading today and Martin Berkhan who have clients that show those guys know what they are talking about and Emma seems to be the guru on the nutrition board so I wanted to find out more about her and it seems odd that you can't find much but just a simply done website. I don't doubt she is knowledgable but when i read something by an "expert" I like to know how much I can trust them. I am not an idiot. I read a lot of stuff between articles and forums and I try and decide what is bull crap and what is valuable. If that makes people lol then I am glad.

    While I do not know her personally, I see her referenced quite often. She seems knowledgeable and I have not seen anything posted that makes me believe she is less then credible. I do not spend a great deal of time in the Nutrition though.

    She has these guys on her "required reading"

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    That about tells me all I need to know. (at least where her mindset is at)


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    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    This might seem like a weird question but does anyone know how credible Emma-Leigh is? She seems to be the guru on the nutrition board but if you look at her body space all you can see is that she has 16% bf and I looked up her website and not a single picture of her there either. It may seem odd but I look at people's body space profile as a way of determining their credibility.
    People's credibility in matters of science are based on whether their research and citations are solid, and match up with their conclusions.

    The advice in the nutrition stickies is as plain, middle of the road, and no nonsense as you can find. It's also conveniently located. It's not the end of all nutrition research, but it is a very solid foundation.

    What are you finding that is causing the resistance in you ability to believe the nutrition basics offered are pretty solidly backed up by all the quoted sources?
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    Originally Posted by EjnarKolinkar View Post
    People's credibility in matters of science are based on whether their research and citations are solid, and match up with their conclusions.

    The advice in the nutrition stickies is as plain, middle of the road, and no nonsense as you can find. It's also conveniently located. It's not the end of all nutrition research, but it is a very solid foundation.

    What are you finding that is causing the resistance in you ability to believe the nutrition basics offered are pretty solidly backed up by all the quoted sources?
    Actually nothing. I agree with most of what I have seen so far. I was just wondering what made her the main source for nutrition on the forum that's all. It really was just a simple question and nothing more. People just like to read into things.
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    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    This might seem like a weird question but does anyone know how credible Emma-Leigh is? She seems to be the guru on the nutrition board but if you look at her body space all you can see is that she has 16% bf and I looked up her website and not a single picture of her there either. It may seem odd but I look at people's body space profile as a way of determining their credibility.
    Yes, it does seem odd that a picture determines credibility for you. If you did a very simple search and history of Emma-Leigh's posts you will see that she is extremely knowledgeable and she goes out of her way to help just about anyone. The last thing she does is self-promote.

    Knowledge trumps pictures.

    So, what made her the main source or a valued source for nutrition? She earned it over a period of years. It wasn't given to her.
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    Originally Posted by PhiDelt234 View Post
    One's physique is not a determining factor of one's knowledge. Emma-leigh is extremely knowledgeable when it comes to nutrition.
    ^^^Very true. A good analogy is a MLB player's batting coach probably couldn't hit Josh Beckett, but he can show others how to.
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    Emma-Leigh is the Queen of Nutrition and Alan Aragon is the King of Nutrition IMO.

    Emma-Leight is very knowledgable in regards to nutrition.
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    Her belief system is essentially the rand study paraphrased. Now, is she can get that study to take hold, more power to her.

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    Originally Posted by Phattso View Post
    Yes, it does seem odd that a picture determines credibility for you.
    I'm not picking sides in this debate, but I think it's rather hypocritical of some posters in here who act like one's appearance has nothing to do with whether you take their advice. If the person in question (who I do not know) was 284 pounds and 50% bodyfat you would all be less likely to take her nutritional advice so don't act otherwise just to put the OP in his place.
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    Originally Posted by Phattso View Post
    Yes, it does seem odd that a picture determines credibility for you.
    Knowledge trumps pictures.
    I suspect that a "picture" of success influences most folks on some level, even if they say it does not. I have no interest in taking dietary advice from someone who has not, at least at some point, proven their system on themselves. I doubt I am missing anything by at least "considering" a picture when contemplating whether or not to put stock in someone's "philosophy." Being that fitness is a very visual thing, I feel it is perfectly fine to consider our eyes as at least one indicator. Why would we not?
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    Originally Posted by 2nd_chance View Post
    I'm not picking sides in this debate, but I think it's rather hypocritical of some posters in here who act like one's appearance has nothing to do with whether you take their advice. If the person in question (who I do not know) was 284 pounds and 50% bodyfat you would all be less likely to take her nutritional advice so don't act otherwise just to put the OP in his place.
    Thanks I thought that myself. Don't trust a skinny cook or a fat nutritionist hahaha. Not that she is fat but I know a lot of nutritionists who are.
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    Originally Posted by KenJenkinsII View Post
    Thanks I thought that myself. Don't trust a skinny cook or a fat nutritionist hahaha. Not that she is fat but I know a lot of nutritionists who are.
    Sometimes the bigger ones can help others, just not themselves...

    Its just better to read as much as you can, and figure out the nitty gritty thats fine tuned for you.
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    Originally Posted by 2nd_chance View Post
    I'm not picking sides in this debate, but I think it's rather hypocritical of some posters in here who act like one's appearance has nothing to do with whether you take their advice. If the person in question (who I do not know) was 284 pounds and 50% bodyfat you would all be less likely to take her nutritional advice so don't act otherwise just to put the OP in his place.
    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    I suspect that a "picture" of success influences most folks on some level, even if they say it does not. I have no interest in taking dietary advice from someone who has not, at least at some point, proven their system on themselves. I doubt I am missing anything by at least "considering" a picture when contemplating whether or not to put stock in someone's "philosophy." Being that fitness is a very visual thing, I feel it is perfectly fine to consider our eyes as at least one indicator. Why would we not?
    My fault for not being clear. My comments and opinions were directed mainly about Emma Leigh and nutrition. Sure, a picture says a lot, but the volumes of information that Emma Leigh has written over the years surpasses what any picture can offer, relating to nutrition.
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    Originally Posted by 2nd_chance View Post
    I'm not picking sides in this debate, but I think it's rather hypocritical of some posters in here who act like one's appearance has nothing to do with whether you take their advice. If the person in question (who I do not know) was 284 pounds and 50% bodyfat you would all be less likely to take her nutritional advice so don't act otherwise just to put the OP in his place.
    The subject was nutrition and Emma Leigh. I would take her advice over anyone, even if they post a picture. I never said that appearance has nothing to do with whether their advice is good or not.
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