What's wrong with salmon?

[Marloon]

Written by Derek Tresize on: http://www.veganmuscleandfitness.com/

I’ve been getting this question a lot lately, and it just so happens a very informative video on the topic came out recently, so it seems like a good time to post on it. What is the big problem with salmon, or any fish? It has lean protein and omega 3′s right? And ‘fish probably don’t even feel pain’! I was a fisherman for most of my youth before becoming vegan, so I’ll leave the ethical dilemma of fish alone for now after pointing out that they have nervous systems virtually identical to our own, and address the question in terms of nutrition.

I can understand the allure of eating fish for health reasons: we hear it is a superfood everywhere and I even struggled with that idea myself for a long time. In fact, fish was actually the last food I gave up before becoming 100% plant-based (I love sushi…but I just switched to veggie rolls). Does a fish fillet possess protein? Absolutely, no argument. However, a study out of Harvard recently illustrated that protein from animal sources, even after controlling other factors like dietary fat and cholesterol, still significantly increased heart disease risk in American men, whereas plant protein reduced it. And this exactly matches Dr. Campbell’s findings in The China Study regarding cancer; animal protein, even the leanest and purest sources, will promote cancer growth. And something many people fail to realize is that fish, like any other animal tissue, contains cholesterol! In fact, salmon has more cholesterol than either bacon or ground beef (90mg vs 75mg, 80mg per 100g respectively), and most people outside the Paleo diet craze will agree that bacon and ground beef are not heart healthy foods! So consuming even the cleanest and most pristine fish would still increase your risk for these deadly diseases, which are the #1 and 2 killers in the United States.

And, unfortunately, fish is far from pristine. Fish is actually the most contaminated food source you can eat, and the larger the fish (ie tuna, swordfish, etc) the more concentrated the contamination becomes. Every bit of pollution you can imagine, be it in the form of emissions, garbage, sewage, runoff, pesticides, you name it, will eventually wind up in the ocean, where it usually stays for good and becomes ever more concentrated. Sounds like just the place you want to get your food from, right? Here are a couple of videos that demonstrate just how dangerously contaminated this ‘health’ food is:

[snorkelman]

stopped reading at "China Study"

[Marloon]

stopped reading at "China Study"

The Doctor who conducted it is from Texas

[BeingPaid]

stopped reading at "China Study"

I forced myself to read through it.... all BS..

OP is just sensitive because he worked in the fish industry and feels sorry for fish or something... wants us all to leave them alone.

[Marloon]

I forced myself to read through it.... all BS..

OP is just sensitive because he worked in the fish industry and feels sorry for fish or something... wants us all to leave them alone.

Well constructed argument. So the FACT that there is pollution in the sea is... All BS... ?

And I didn't write this as stated.

[Marloon]

Part 2 of the article:

So to sum it up fish promotes heart disease, cancer, and all the other major chronic diseases that ALL animal products promote, and it poisons you to boot! For those of you who are eco-minded, you should also keep in mind that wild fish stocks are being depleted at a rate far faster than they can repopulate, and that many major food species are estimated to go extinct within the next 50 years or less at the current rate of harvest. Being a parent really puts that into perspective for me…I grew up loving the ocean and am still an avid bodysurfer whenever I get the chance. Growing up I spent hours on the beach and in the water just watching the teeming activity of all the ocean life. Do I want to leave a world covered in barren ocean, a grim, dead landscape devoid of anything but toxic chemicals, to my son? NO! All in all, I’ll stick to Beans & Greens for my lean protein source, thanks!

If you enjoyed the videos above, I highly recommend you subscribe to Nutritionfacts.org! This is now my go-to resource for nutritional info, as Dr. Greger does a prodigious amount of research to bring you short concise videos on any nutritional topic you could dream of!

[Milone79]

stopped reading at "China Study"

thanks..u saved my from reading any more of this b.s. too..just had .5 pound of wild salmon (poached) on wednesday..nomnomnom

[Marloon]

thanks..u saved my from reading any more of this b.s. too..just had .5 pound of wild salmon (poached) on wednesday..nomnomnom

LOL. so you had 2720 grams of protein in one day / meal?! Are you posting from the grave! LOL LOLOLOLOL

[illriginalized]

Surely OP is a *******.


By your logic (due to pollution)... even vegetables are poisonous.

By the way, 2lbs of salmon will be had by me alone tonight after gym.

[BeingPaid]

LOL. so you had 2720 grams of protein in one day / meal?! Are you posting from the grave! LOL LOLOLOLOL

.5 pounds = 8 oz

don't see the problem here?

[Marloon]

.5 pounds = 8 oz

don't see the problem here?

5 pounds = EIGHTY (80) ounces

1 ounce = 36 grams

36 x 80 = 2880 grams

[BeingPaid]

5 pounds = EIGHTY (80) ounces

1 ounce = 36 grams

36 x 80 = 2880 grams

Even if you can't see the decimal point (which I'm pretty sure you can - and are just pretending not to satisfy your ego), it didn't occur to you that 1) he could've been over-exaggerating, or 2) he meant to put a decimal point there?

Come on op......

[illriginalized]

5 pounds = EIGHTY (80) ounces

1 ounce = 36 grams

36 x 80 = 2880 grams

.5 pounds = 1/2 pound

[ParsonBrown]

I don't eat fish...I'm banking on fried chicken to do me in!

[Milone79]

5 pounds = EIGHTY (80) ounces

1 ounce = 36 grams

36 x 80 = 2880 grams

read much??? .5 pound is half pound or 8 oz. u *******!!!!! did you actually neg me and call me a liar in my pm.???

[tom626]

I don't necessarily disagree, but I don't particularly care. I'd rather keep eating fish and die from heart disease in 50 years than spend my entire life neurotically obsessing over whether my diet is "healthy" or "ethical" enough.

[71Avido]

We're all going to die eventually. Hell, I could die today, drowned in my coffee or sucked into a machine at work. To hell with this world, I'm eating fish.
Goodnight sweet prince.

[Marloon]

lol what a surprise. As usual on this forum - people disagree so they neg you and say "bad info".

How are referenced studies "bad info"?!?

[Marloon]

read much??? .5 pound is half pound or 8 oz. u *******!!!!! did you actually neg me and call me a liar in my pm.???

Yep. Post a video of you eating 0.5 lbs of Salmon in one sitting then.

[Geoloop]

Yep. Post a video of you eating 5 lbs of Salmon in one sitting then.

strong reading comprehension...

[Milone79]

Yep. Post a video of you eating 5 lbs of Salmon in one sitting then.

CHIT!!! tried to neg and actually repped you! fuark!!! gonna neg your pathetic ass on recharge don't worry...and I strongly suggest others here neg your stupid ass into the red zone!!!!

[BeingPaid]

lol what a surprise. As usual on this flawed forum - people disagree so they neg you and say "bad info".

How are referenced studies "bad info"?!?

You negged me for telling you that .5 pounds of salmon equals 8 oz.

[Marloon]

CHIT!!! tried to neg and actually repped you! fuark!!! gonna neg your pathetic ass on recharge don't worry...and I strongly suggest others here neg your stupid ass into the red zone!!!!

Ok. I've reported you for being offensive. Why u so mad

[nobrah]

Yep. Post a video of you eating 5 lbs of Salmon in one sitting then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal...imal_fractions

[Marloon]

Yep. Post a video of you eating 0.5 lbs of Salmon in one sitting then.

Yea...

[illriginalized]

Yea...

lol.. dood half a pound of FISH is nothing. <_<;

[Milone79]

Ok. I've reported you for being offensive. Why u so mad

not mad just tired of trolls like you trolling this section(deliberately claiming that .5 pound is five pounds)....then having the ballz to neg people for correcting your stupidity...I am sure the mods will see through that B.S. pretty easily.

[KevJr88]

Neither you, or the original post cite any references. That is a huge problem. Especially when you are citing studies and promoting advice that is "against the grain".

[Marloon]

not mad just tired of trolls like you trolling this section(deliberately claiming that .5 pound is five pounds)....then having the ballz to neg people for correcting your stupidity...I am sure the mods will see through that B.S. pretty easily.

HOW AM I trolling? I love this - you disagree with me so I'm a troll. LOL

[Roseburia]

5 pounds = EIGHTY (80) ounces

1 ounce = 36 grams

36 x 80 = 2880 grams

Stupid vegan, 1 ounce = 28 grams. you fail.