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    Originally Posted by midcoastking33 View Post
    I'm about as anti-aesthetics training as you can be on this forum, but what the fuk is "functional fitness" anyway? It's like clean eating, no one can define it. Meanwhile crossfit has no clear purpose in mind, nor bases any of its routines on evidence based programming. It's literally like "this sounds fun and challenging, throw it in there for the lulz"
    There actually is a lot of strict programming that goes into it. It's just when you hear the horror stories or see the picture of that guy snatching with his baby strapped to him that people start to say things like "All of crossfit is like that/stupid." In powerlifting, bodybuilding, strongman, recreational lifting, etc. there are plenty of stupid people doing stupid $hit. The top tier athletes in any strength or individual sport, usually, know what the f*ck they are doing. CrossFit is no different.
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    Originally Posted by HamburgerTrain View Post
    <~~~ have done 315 58 times, pulled 815 in a competition. What the f*ck is wrong with that?

    Croassfit has a worldwide tournament style yearly competition that culminates at a world championship that has international sponsorship, an ESPN contract, and a $250,000 cash prize to the winner. How on Earth is it not a sport?
    I like this man

    edit: also this forum seems to have some obscure misconception about what goes on at Crossfit Gyms... at my gym we run a proven strength/Oly training routine and then do metcons after our strength training
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    Originally Posted by 00_Juris View Post
    I didn't say that Crossfit was a sport. I implied that it would be better training for sports than bodybuilding because it's more functional for that purpose. Crossfit can be turned into a sport if you compete on time. A sport can be made out of the completion of any given task that depends on an objective standard. It's nearly impossible for bodybuilding to do this.
    You seem to fail at realizing that crossfit never invented Olympic lifting, it's only made it more popular as of late.

    Agreed, athletes do Olympic lifts to train for sport. But crossfit has other dumb asz workouts associated with it too. So tell me, if crossfit is so good for athletes, all the pro athletes must be doing it right? ...right?
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    Originally Posted by 00_Juris View Post
    I didn't say that Crossfit was a sport. I implied that it would be better training for sports than bodybuilding because it's more functional for that purpose. Crossfit can be turned into a sport if you compete on time. A sport can be made out of the completion of any given task that depends on an objective standard. It's nearly impossible for bodybuilding to do this.

    How can crossfit be more applicable to a sport than bodybuilding??

    Because of a Metcon?

    Football for an example...is based off of short intervals of explosive power...where and how does 50 box jumps followed by 50 squats of 225 relate to helping that specific sport? It doesn't.

    To be quite honest with you, if you're going to look at it in a whole...bodybuilding in general is far superior to crossfit..crossfitters severed ties with it's own "creator"..can you name one bodybuilder who has severed ties with any other pro due to irrational ways of training?

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    Originally Posted by HamburgerTrain View Post
    <~~~ have done 315 58 times, pulled 815 in a competition. What the f*ck is wrong with that?

    Croassfit has a worldwide tournament style yearly competition that culminates at a world championship that has international sponsorship, an ESPN contract, and a $250,000 cash prize to the winner. How on Earth is it not a sport?
    Grats on the stats bruh.

    How does that imply to functional strength in a "real world situation" ... When in my career am I going to have to lift 315lbs of anything 58x off of someone or something ever? 1 in a 100 likelihood.

    I'm not knocking on crossfit at all it has it's place as does bodybuilding. But it is truly not a sport. If it is considered a sport than me driving in a radio car for 12 hours getting paid to draw a 5lb service weapon every traffic stop and getting a paycheck every two weeks is a sport.

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    Originally Posted by TakeEverything View Post
    Grats on the stats bruh.

    How does that imply to functional strength in a "real world situation" ... When in my career am I going to have to lift 315lbs of anything 58x off of someone or something ever? 1 in a 100 likelihood.

    I'm not knocking on crossfit at all it has it's place as does bodybuilding. But it is truly not a sport. If it is considered a sport than me driving in a radio car for 12 hours getting paid to draw a 5lb service weapon every traffic stop and getting a paycheck every two weeks is a sport.

    I rest my case.
    In the case of CrossFit, it is a GPP program. General Physical Preparedness. You train for energy system development through efficiency of many different movements (ideally anyway). When you think of it in terms of, when am I going to need to do this exercise in real life, no training is functional. There will never be a situation in my life (other than training) where I am going to need to deadlift anything. There are plenty of times I have needed work capacity for different periods of time with varying degrees power/average power needing to be displayed in order to get a task done.

    Strength is functional. Work Capacity is functional. Any training that develops the working mechanisms of our biology that display these qualities in everyday life situation is functional.
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    Yea uhm that's why they promote steroids, last checked on the Crossfit website. Exact wording is that they perform better on it.
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    hamburgertrain probably has the biggest deadlift of any crossfitter, probably by far.

    one year at the games, only something like 20 of those guys pulled 500+. i pull 505. i have mediocre strength and i can bang out a 45 minute 10K. none of these make me an athlete or anything remotely resembling elite. im not even the strongest guy on the street i live on, and i put up competitive crossfit numbers. you see what im saying?

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    Originally Posted by magog704 View Post
    hamburgertrain probably has the biggest deadlift of any crossfitter, probably by far.

    one year at the games, only something like 20 of those guys pulled 500+. i pull 505. i have mediocre strength and i can bang out a 45 minute 10K. none of these make me an athlete or anything remotely resembling elite. im not even the strongest guy on the street i live on, and i put up competitive crossfit numbers. you see what im saying?

    Wut? Proof of any of this? How bout no? If they were 20 strong guys one year back in the day, they were obv. powerlifters, not crossfitters.

    Standard cf dead is 455lbs

    Here u can see their best athlete having a real good time lifting that...


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    I had a conversation with a "Hardcore Xfitter" this past weekend. I asked him what his goal of Xfit was, what was the purpose and he said "Functional Fitness"

    "I am in the best shape of my life and can do ANY sport if I wanted, and do it good."

    "The 12 minute workout is brutal, you should try it, it will kick your butt. It's so much more complex than the typical 4 sets, 10 reps stuff."

    There was no debating with this guy....he was an self proclaimed aleitist if you will.

    I just said, "it really depends on your goals. If you want to train to be capable of ANY sport, great, sounds like a really cool story but my goal is to obtain as much LBM as possible. Bodybuilding is "MY" goal. I continued to tell him that I train hard, I do not need people pumping me up, I do not socialize when I train, and I use ole school techniques. There's more to bbing than just 4 sets of 10......"


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    Originally Posted by Chaan View Post
    Wut? Proof of any of this? How bout no? If they were 20 strong guys one year back in the day, they were obv. powerlifters, not crossfitters.
    yes that's what im saying ass hole. we are in agreement. of all the big pullers, none of them placed well. i think lance had the biggest pull at 600 something.

    all strong crossfitters are rebranded powerlifters.

    But here's the fascinating part. We can take you from a 200 pound max deadlift to a 500-750 pound max deadlift in two years while only pulling max singles four or five times a year. We will though work the deadlift, like most lifts, approximately once per week at higher reps and under grueling conditions. It may intuit well that if you can pull a 250 pound deadlift 21 times coming to the lift at a heart rate of 180 beats per minute, then 500 pounds for a single at a resting heart rate is perhaps manageable.
    the guy who founded crossfit said this. hamburgertrain is probably the sole 700lb puller.

    the principles that crossfit was founded on are totally inane. strong dedicated people have finagled it into something that works, so now it's way better. i did crossfit in 2006 when the WODs were like 20 turkish getups followed by 10 kipping chins at bw+50lbs. it was an incredible waste of time.

    this one time someone posted a mainpage wod (probably dave castro) that was impossible to do and impossible to scale. 1 arm pullups or something. all the comments were like "this is kind of stupid". many epiphanies were had that day.
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    Originally Posted by magog704 View Post
    hamburgertrain probably has the biggest deadlift of any crossfitter, probably by far.

    one year at the games, only something like 20 of those guys pulled 500+. i pull 505. i have mediocre strength and i can bang out a 45 minute 10K. none of these make me an athlete or anything remotely resembling elite. im not even the strongest guy on the street i live on, and i put up competitive crossfit numbers. you see what im saying?

    I don't do crossfit dumbass.
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    Originally Posted by HamburgerTrain View Post
    I don't do crossfit dumbass.
    ..that's what I wanted to hear
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    Originally Posted by PLANETGETLOW View Post
    I had a conversation with a "Hardcore Xfitter" this past weekend. I asked him what his goal of Xfit was, what was the purpose and he said "Functional Fitness"

    "I am in the best shape of my life and can do ANY sport if I wanted, and do it good."

    "The 12 minute workout is brutal, you should try it, it will kick your butt. It's so much more complex than the typical 4 sets, 10 reps stuff."

    There was no debating with this guy....he was an self proclaimed aleitist if you will.

    I just said, "it really depends on your goals. If you want to train to be capable of ANY sport, great, sounds like a really cool story but my goal is to obtain as much LBM as possible. Bodybuilding is "MY" goal. I continued to tell him that I train hard, I do not need people pumping me up, I do not socialize when I train, and I use ole school techniques. There's more to bbing than just 4 sets of 10......"


    My wife shut him down the quickest by saying "I cannot afford your membership fees".....
    Crossfit has its tools too just like Bodybulding does. I'm an avid crossfitter, but i love to get in some strength training as well. Like you said it all depends on some ones goals. As for membership prices yes they are rediculous. I'm lucky I pay $40 at a traditional family owned gym if not for that I couldn't afford it
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    Originally Posted by xfit10 View Post
    Crossfit has its tools too just like Bodybulding does. I'm an avid crossfitter, but i love to get in some strength training as well. Like you said it all depends on some ones goals. As for membership prices yes they are redicilous. I'm lucky I pay $40 at a traditional family owned gymif not for that I couldn't afford it
    I think what bothered me most about the conversation was his condescending demeanor towards anybody that didn't xfit. Xfit was the answer to everything.
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    I suppose looking back, he didn't directly disrespect me or my wife but the conversation was one-sided. I think that was his personality though.

    In all honesty though, I have nothing to prove, I don't have to sell anything to him nor did I feel the need to debate the differences between him and myself for hours. I don't roll like that. I do what I do for me.
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    There is actually people calling their method x-fit https://www.youtube.com/user/XFitDaily
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