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12-16-2012, 09:58 AM
#361
^^ No pump
Originally Posted by Deso2i
I mean to duck under the bar on yhe incline bench and just squat instead of a squat rack or power rack as there isnt any in my gym
sounds very unsafe bro, can't you try to push press the weight up?
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12-16-2012, 09:59 AM
#362
Registered User
Originally Posted by Deso2i
I mean to duck under the bar on yhe incline bench and just squat instead of a squat rack or power rack as there isnt any in my gym
Good luck, don't die.
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12-16-2012, 09:59 AM
#363
Registered Shreded Glutes
Originally Posted by Deso2i
I mean to duck under the bar on yhe incline bench and just squat instead of a squat rack or power rack as there isnt any in my gym
no this is pretty unsafe...
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12-16-2012, 10:18 AM
#364
Not A Doctor
What bicycle brand is your favorite. Mines mongoose
Jersey *908*
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12-16-2012, 10:28 AM
#365
Registered User
Originally Posted by handcannon77
no this is pretty unsafe...
I actually do this since my gym has no rack. You just gotta be careful and obviously make sure to not go to failure and read your body's signs. Def not the safest method though
Dem lifts:
Incline Dumbbell Press - 100x9
Bench - 245x5
Dips - BW + 110x6
Barbell Hack Squat - 425x5
Barbell Row - 275x10
DB Row - 155x10
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12-16-2012, 10:56 AM
#366
Registered User
Originally Posted by Nkukk
What bicycle brand is your favorite. Mines mongoose

IMO those tour de france ones are pretty decent
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12-16-2012, 11:36 AM
#367
Registered User
hey guys whats your take on pyramid sets (like 1x12 1x10 1x8 1x6) vs regular sets (like 3/4x10/12)
and also, what do you guys think about push pull legs? And do you think its best to have a push day with more shoulder work and little chest work, and another push day with more chest work and little shoulder work, or just one single day template?
Last edited by ddpdp; 12-16-2012 at 11:47 AM.
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12-16-2012, 11:39 AM
#368
Certified B.A.
Is it optimal to do shoulders after chest day?
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12-16-2012, 11:53 AM
#369
Registered User
Originally Posted by ddpdp
hey guys whats your take on pyramid sets (like 1x12 1x10 1x8 1x6) vs regular sets (like 3/4x10/12)
and also, what do you guys think about push pull legs? And do you think its best to have a push day with more shoulder work and little chest work, and another push day with more chest work and little shoulder work, or just one single day template?
Do whatever style of sets you want to. Frankly its sort of irrelevant. You should always have 3-6 sets of side delt work on push day, whether you want to throw in ONE shoulder press on one of them is up to you. Your front delts get hit pretty hard regardless. And we all like PPL I believe.
Originally Posted by Sethinator
Is it optimal to do shoulders after chest day?
Optimal - no, will it work - yes. Just depends how hard your front delts got hit the day prior. I did a chest/arms day followed by a back/shoulder day on thursday/friday. I didnt think Id be able to do shoulder pressing movements, but they werent effected whatsoever.
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12-16-2012, 12:05 PM
#370
Certified B.A.
Thanks DC and does decline bench hit alot of shoulders?
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12-16-2012, 01:56 PM
#371
Registered User
I see some of you guys do p/p/l, do you have any links to a p/p/l layout or routine you found great results with?
thanks
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12-16-2012, 09:37 PM
#372
Registered User
Originally Posted by KrazyEyezKillah
I actually do this since my gym has no rack. You just gotta be careful and obviously make sure to not go to failure and read your body's signs. Def not the safest method though
Do you think its ok yo do this method while on a PL routine ? Is it ok if I have a spotter
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12-17-2012, 03:44 AM
#373
Registered User
My introduction to weight lifting was through a program called Body For Life, idk if you guys have heard of it. Anyway, it teaches a "high point" technique where you try to end working each body part with absolute effort. My question is if I should still do this on other programs, or if I'm supposed to reach near failure at the end of each individual exercise?
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12-17-2012, 03:45 AM
#374
Registered User
Also, I've been lifting weights for about 9 months now, and I feel like I've reached a plateau. What routine would you recommend for gaining size?
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12-17-2012, 10:28 AM
#375
Registered User
Originally Posted by ElijahX
Also, I've been lifting weights for about 9 months now, and I feel like I've reached a plateau. What routine would you recommend for gaining size?
The one where you eat more food.
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12-17-2012, 11:00 AM
#376
GH15 approved
Originally Posted by Sethinator
Thanks DC and does decline bench hit alot of shoulders?
Decline uses less shoulders than flat or incline
Originally Posted by ElijahX
Also, I've been lifting weights for about 9 months now, and I feel like I've reached a plateau. What routine would you recommend for gaining size?
Extremely vague question but as DC said, increase your calorie intake if you are no longer gaining weight
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12-17-2012, 02:46 PM
#377
Registered User
should i drink my second weight gainer shake before or after i work out?
(i drink first in morning)
also is getting more protein than you need to, bad for ur health?
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12-17-2012, 03:29 PM
#378
Registered User
Been cutting for 2 weeks now, weight came off easy the first week, assuming this was mostly water weight any effective methods to help the extra fat come off? Calorie intake is around 2000, protein around 150g per day and fat around 50g. Hydrate often and cardio 5 days a week. Looking to from 17% to 12 or so, any help/knowledge appreciate.
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12-17-2012, 04:16 PM
#379
Registered User
Once ive been on a surplus for around 3-4 weeks my weight starts to go on very quickly but as soon as i take a little break i loose some weight.
I barely ever gain bodyfat staying at around 11% constantly. Im also doing Y3T training programme on here.
My question is what am i doing wrong to loose the weight etc? over training? to much caloric drops when having break from bulk?
also how can i take main advantage of not gaining fat etc stated above!?
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12-18-2012, 12:54 AM
#380
Registered User
Originally Posted by forestopher
I see some of you guys do p/p/l, do you have any links to a p/p/l layout or routine you found great results with?
thanks
+1 to this
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12-18-2012, 01:18 AM
#381
Registered Shreded Glutes
Originally Posted by ShammyHam
should i drink my second weight gainer shake before or after i work out?
(i drink first in morning)
also is getting more protein than you need to, bad for ur health?
Doenst really matter, and no.
Originally Posted by Schmeckie
Been cutting for 2 weeks now, weight came off easy the first week, assuming this was mostly water weight any effective methods to help the extra fat come off? Calorie intake is around 2000, protein around 150g per day and fat around 50g. Hydrate often and cardio 5 days a week. Looking to from 17% to 12 or so, any help/knowledge appreciate.
Track your macros, simple as that. Dont really need to be doing cardio 5 days a week, if you are keep it relatively LITT and just aim to burn a set amount of calories.
Originally Posted by SimplySerratus
Once ive been on a surplus for around 3-4 weeks my weight starts to go on very quickly but as soon as i take a little break i loose some weight.
I barely ever gain bodyfat staying at around 11% constantly. Im also doing Y3T training programme on here.
My question is what am i doing wrong to loose the weight etc? over training? to much caloric drops when having break from bulk?
also how can i take main advantage of not gaining fat etc stated above!?
mirin gains brahs!
Track your macros, eat at no more than 500 surplus, preferably lower than 500 surplus if you have been training for >1 year.
Originally Posted by ddpdp
PPL is a simple template in itself.
IMO pick a main movement for each bodypart, try to progress on that movement every week whether it be weight or reps, or both.
For example what I do: (and this is not really meant for you to copy, as Ive tailored it to my needs physique wise, what is lagging etc and some exercises and methods of training that I just prefer)
Lower:
Front squats- 1-2 warm up sets about 15 seconds rest in between. 4 Working sets anywhere from 3-12 reps, if I do a heavy triple I most likely follow it up with a drop set to 2 plates.
Leg press- 3-4 sets 12-20 reps and will often either RP these or do a huge set at the end.
Leg ext- RP these
Leg curls- 5 sets 15-20+ reps
SLDL- 4 sets 8-12 reps
Push-
Incline BB (or smith incline RP'd)- 3 sets 5-10 reps
HS iso-wide- 4 sets 8-12 reps
Cable flys on flat or incline bench- 3 sets 12+ reps
(Will add in 4th chest exercise depending on how RC feels)
Seated HS type press- 4 sets 10-15 reps
DB laterals- 4 sets
EZ bar french press- 4 sets
Some kind of pushdown or seated dips RP'd
Pull:
Deads- usually 3 working sets, reps are usually low, intensity high. If im going for a PR warmup sets will be adjusted.
DB or BB rows: 3-4 sets 5-12 reps
HS low row- 4 sets
rear delts
inb4 wheres calves.
Still cannot train calves effectively due to ankle injury from summer
Last edited by handcannon77; 12-18-2012 at 01:25 AM.
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12-18-2012, 01:53 AM
#382
Registered Sikkunt
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12-18-2012, 02:07 AM
#383
Registered User
Ight my question was do you guys count your macros everyday? I try to count my calories at least twice a week to see where Im at. Also to build muscle is protien intake of atleast 1gram per bodyweight the most imporatnt thing to count?
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12-18-2012, 02:10 AM
#384
Banned
HC how come you dont do any pull up/down varients and just do rows and deads?
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12-18-2012, 02:12 AM
#385
Registered User
Originally Posted by jimmyb6281
Ight my question was do you guys count your macros everyday? I try to count my calories at least twice a week to see where Im at. Also to build muscle is protien intake of atleast 1gram per bodyweight the most imporatnt thing to count?
I count everything personally, I leave nothing to chance.
Although when bulking you can get away with just hitting a certain # of calories and protein if you don't care about gaining some fat. And yes, protein is the most important.
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12-18-2012, 04:12 AM
#386
Registered User
Originally Posted by QualityByDC
Get him on a high frequency program based around compounds, but make sure hes doing atleast 3 sets of tricep, bicep, rear delt, trap, calf, side delt, and hammy work atleast twice a week. Thats where most beginner programs fall off. Remember I said atleast.
So this is something I quickly came up with, tell me what you think:
Day A:
Back Squat 3x5
Bench Press 3x5
Barbell Rows 3x5
SL Deadlifts (2 sets)
Seated Leg Curls (2 sets)
Dumbbell Curls/Overhead Extension (2 sets) supersetted
Cable Curls/Cable Pressdown (2 sets) supersetted
Barbell Shrugs (4 sets)
Day B:
Front Squat 3x5
Military Press 3x5
Weighted Pull-ups 1x5
Seated Shoulder Press (2 sets)
Lateral Raises/Rear Delt Flyes (2 sets) supersetted
Rope Face Pulls (2 sets)
Toe Press (2 sets)
Seated Calf Raises (2 sets)
-I sorted arms, hammys and traps into Day A and delts and calves into Day B.
-Because he'll only be going 3 days a week, instead of 6 sets a week I've sorted it to be 4 sets per session which will end up being either 4 or 8 sets per week, averaging out to 6.
-I chose weighted pull-ups over deadlifts because I think they'll be more effective for hypertrophy purposes. I also made them 1x5 because they'll be a hard exercise to progressively overload.
What's the consensus? See anything in particular you don't like or would change?
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12-18-2012, 10:17 AM
#387
Lighting of peace
What would you suggest for a begginer (3-4 months) ppl or full body - can train mon-fri
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12-19-2012, 04:22 AM
#388
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12-20-2012, 01:47 PM
#389
GH15 approved
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12-20-2012, 02:17 PM
#390
Registered User
are there any exercises you feel mind muscle connection isnt important and if i can lift a certain weight for 12 reps with slight mind muscle connection but lift 75% of that weight with much better mind muscle connection which is better?
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