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    A vertical pulldown is not the best lats exercise

    This is not a question - it's a heads-up. I've studied anatomy.



    As u can see on the pics, vertical pulldown activates a lot of other muscles more, than does the lats.

    Here u have a lats guy instead. Poor quality video obviously. And there aren't many videos, simply because it's not a popular exercise. And I know why, it's because it's awkward. It looks awkward because u can't do a lot of weight (it's an isolation exercise which most people don't have the time for) , so it leaves u wondering, does he even lift. And it feels awkward, because lats are strange muscles, they wrap around the teres muscles. But if u want an isolation exercise, this is it


    Yes I started doing it after anatomy studies, although at that point I had never seen anyone doing it
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    Are you trying to tell us that an isolation exercise activates the targeted muscle more than a compound exercise? Astounding...
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    Originally Posted by Chaan View Post
    This is not a question - it's a heads-up. I've studied anatomy.
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    I've dissected people.. and studied it in theory... And in practise (I was a massage therapist before going to med school)

    And yes, people prefer compound exercises, because it's too boring with isolation. (Me too)
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    I've dissected people.. and studied it in theory... And in practise (I was a massage therapist before going to med school)

    And yes, people prefer compound exercises, because it's too boring with isolation. (Me too)
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    Originally Posted by jammyo40 View Post
    Are you trying to tell us that an isolation exercise activates the targeted muscle more than a compound exercise? Astounding...
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    So DB flys build more chest than presses ?

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    The back is the most complex muscle group. You need a variety of exercises to hit all the parts. But if you are looking for the most effective and efficient lift for lats, that would be close-grip pulldowns (or chin ups). Gives the greatest range of motion and puts the smaller and weaker biceps in a more mechanically advantageous position. Though you would still need something wide like pull downs or pull ups to hit those small and intricate muscles of the upper back, and lats to a lesser extent. Then need something for rear delts, traps (usually shrugs) and then something for erectors, usually deadlifts or rack pulls that also hit the lower and mid traps.
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    I've dissected people.. and studied it in theory... And in practise (I was a massage therapist before going to med school)

    And yes, people prefer compound exercises, because it's too boring with isolation. (Me too)
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    son....

    Other muscles are activating in that exercise. The pec major/minor and other arm movers.

    The lats are not meant to work alone. Wide grip pulldowns are the best lat activator, although horizontal pulls might be better for the more horizontal fibres.
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    I have to say I agree, I've added a lot of these less common isolation exercises to my routine recently and have had some great results. Check out this exercise too:

    And if your gym has this machine, it is so amazing...
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    Originally Posted by MikeKK View Post
    Heavy ass rows hands down.
    No, it's not a good lats isolation.

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    Good for you, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last month.
    Well that didn't teach u anything obv.

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    Well this thread was a failure from post 1. haha.
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    son....

    Other muscles are activating in that exercise. The pec major/minor and other arm movers.

    The lats are not meant to work alone. Wide grip pulldowns are the best lat activator, although horizontal pulls might be better for the more horizontal fibres.
    I'm saying it's the best... if.. etc. (Read it again fuker)

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    Not sure if srs...

    Congratulations on dissecting people... I do too, and have my Anatomy final tomorrow.

    I can confirm, Lat Pulldown is an effective Lat exercise.

    op what u gon do bout it?
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    Originally Posted by TBU720 View Post
    I have to say I agree, I've added a lot of these less common isolation exercises to my routine recently and have had some great results. Check out this exercise too:

    And if your gym has this machine, it is so amazing...
    Yes those are lats exercises, the last one is even effective. The first one only activate lats the first half of ROM.
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    Originally Posted by Chaan View Post
    No, it's not a good lats isolation.



    Well that didn't teach u anything obv.



    I'm still right. Yes, others itt fail.



    I'm saying it's the best... if.. etc. (Read it again fuker)



    Did u understand any anatomy?



    Yes those are lats exercises, the last one is even effective. The first one only activate lats the first half of ROM.
    I don't care what you're saying. you're wrong.
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    brb doing compound movements for every other part but only hitting a large muscle group of my back with an iso? im sure you do more than that for your back and im just missing something. personally love pull ups, why dont more people do them? brb free weights are the shizz, unless its for back because im to fat and lazy to do pullups. back needs to be hit at different angles, hence why people do deads, rows, and pullups..but i do like ended back days on straight arm pull downs.
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