Biggest piece of bro-science?

[WIJG]

Gain muscle in calorie deficit

Possible for beginners.

[iron_monster]

IIFYM, all of the increase your test by sleeping without x or any variants, all the natty limit crap there are threads on 10,000x a day etc

[Lukelovesyoutoo]

IIFYM

Care to explain?

[CoolUrTurbos]

"I dont want to get too big"

[4343]

that op is not a *******

your funny

[flyp313]

lifting will make u fat and depressed

[LashGordon]

I hate the " I don't squat, I have bad knees/I don't want wrecked joints" excuse for not squatting. Worst broscience ever.

I can barely walk up stairs, theres a reason I can't squat heavy... its called fukked patella tendons.

What fukking broscience is there in that?

I was getting cortisone shots for the last two years of college soccer to keep playing, but you wan't me fukking squatting heavy when trainers told me I had to retire from soccer if I plan on walking when I'm older???

Fukking *******.

[douglasmich]

remember brahs if you don't train while on protein it will turn to fat

Lol some retarded gym junky told me he makes his gains from protein and if he gets sore he tries other proteins until he isn't sore.

Than he says he only takes lean protein cause he doesn't like the look of bulk muscle

And told me I can gain muscle on deficit

[Nosferalto]

Don't train two muscle groups a day or the proteins get confused and don't know where to go

[AgRyan]

Brahette Science.

[PervedOut]

"just need to tone the fat..."

This

Overheard a whale telling a skinny girl that had a little pudge after having a baby that "all you need to do to lose that belly is some sit-ups every night"

I was raging so bad I didnt even shake my head but inside, I was

[oTough]

I guess you don't know about RHEB or mTOR then. If AKT dephosphorylates before mTOR is phosphorylated by RHEB and its other inputs, that muscle cell won't p70s6k and its downstream targets

lolwut, I don't have a degree in Nutrition or Chemistry, can you explain in layman terms.

[hazieN]

do 50 reps to get long skinny muscles, wtf are long skinny muscles anyway? cant even count how many times people have told me this and if i try explaining this isnt the truht they start arguing about it being common knowledge and so on

[Ronnie87]

There's actually an advert for Personal Training at my gym that specifically states "Target fat in those hard to remove places". I'd put a complaint in but my friends got banned and most of the PT's don't like me anyway.

[HamburgerTrain]

I guess you don't know about RHEB or mTOR then. If AKT dephosphorylates before mTOR is phosphorylated by RHEB and its other inputs, that muscle cell won't p70s6k and its downstream targets

Or contraction dependant, non-insulin mediated GLUT4 translocation. I guess that doesn't matter either. Repped.

This mother f*cking Misc and it's poverty diet plans.

[scoope]

brb high rep low weight to "tone" up

brb turning fat into muscle

brb dietary fats make you fat

[HamburgerTrain]

lolwut, I don't have a degree in Nutrition or Chemistry, can you explain in layman terms.

You don't need a degree to be able to read a f*cking book.


That posts says nutrient timing is important. Go figure out why.

[Khwaj]

Do abs and crunches if you want a 6pack

[Airdonis]

A lot of the 'broscience' in this thread is actual scientific theory. E'g meal timing is important, there is a tonne of research reinforcing this. The training window does exist (FACT)- if you don't believe me read a bunch of peer reviewed research articles and some good nutrition text books (one by Jie Kang is good). Cycling creatine is not stupid. For a large proportion of individuals a greater effect is seen when creatine is cycled rather than taken consistently- myself included. There are plenty of things out there that sound stupid because the wrong people say them. If you look into it you may find that they are actually true. On the other hand, just because a guy in a white jacket says it, it doesn't mean it is law.

[thakurtis]

nobody remember this thread?

"hold your poop in as long as possible so your body can absorb maximum protein before you take a chit"

[HamburgerTrain]

A lot of the 'broscience' in this thread is actual scientific theory. E'g meal timing is important, there is a tonne of research reinforcing this. The training window does exist (FACT)- if you don't believe me read a bunch of peer reviewed research articles and some good nutrition text books (one by Jie Kang is good). Cycling creatine is not stupid. For a large proportion of individuals a greater effect is seen when creatine is cycled rather than taken consistently- myself included. There are plenty of things out there that sound stupid because the wrong people say them. If you look into it you may find that they are actually true. On the other hand, just because a guy in a white jacket says it, it doesn't mean it is law.

I think it is less a guy in a white jacket saying it and more someone trying to shove it down your thorat so that you buy their newest "Super Secret Science Diet Book."

[rootcon]

lolwut, I don't have a degree in Nutrition or Chemistry, can you explain in layman terms.

Here's a graphic of part of the AKT->mTOR->p70s6k anabolic protein synthesis pathway



phosphorylated = activated
dephosphorylated = inactivated

RHEB = signals when sufficient amino acids are present in the bloodstream to commence protein synthesis (mainly activated by leucine)
mTOR = convergence complex of many inputs where when all the inputs are activated, protein synthesis occurs (tumor suppression must be overridden, insulin or IGF-1 must bind to the cells receptor...)
AKT = cell survival. Tells the cell to stay alive and not apoptosis. Testosterone helps keep this phosphorylated (in myonuclei and satellite cells).

Cliffs- meal timing is important.

[Source7769]

I hate the " I don't squat, I have bad knees/I don't want wrecked joints" excuse for not squatting. Worst broscience ever.

i cant wait for you to get fukkin hurt you kunt

[Airdonis]

I think it is less a guy in a white jacket saying it and more someone trying to shove it down your thorat so that you buy their newest "Super Secret Science Diet Book."

I agree for sure, but was just trying to point out that you shouldn't believe everything you hear, you should hear something, look into it then make your own opinion on the matter by actually gaining some knowledge (even if it is relatively minor) in the field.

[Enzant]

the most widely recognised 'fact' I've heard is 'don't shave it it will grow back thicker'

fukking idiots

Always wonder if this is true or not. You also hear that waxing hairs make them grow less thicker.

I'm not sure it's total broscience because I've been shaving my armpits since I'm 15 and hairs there are way thicker than anywhere else on my body.

[HamburgerTrain]

Here's a graphic of part of the AKT->mTOR->p70s6k anabolic protein synthesis pathway



phosphorylated = activated
dephosphorylated = inactivated

RHEB = signals when sufficient amino acids are present in the bloodstream to commence protein synthesis (mainly activated by leucine)
mTOR = convergence complex of many inputs where when all the inputs are activated, protein synthesis occurs (tumor suppression must be overridden, insulin or IGF-1 must bind to the cells receptor...)
AKT = cell survival. Tells the cell to stay alive and not apoptosis. Testosterone helps keep this phosphorylated (in myonuclei and satellite cells).

Cliffs- meal timing is important.

hnnngggg

[Drangue]

I can barely walk up stairs, theres a reason I can't squat heavy... its called fukked patella tendons.

What fukking broscience is there in that?

I was getting cortisone shots for the last two years of college soccer to keep playing, but you wan't me fukking squatting heavy when trainers told me I had to retire from soccer if I plan on walking when I'm older???

Fukking *******.

U mad? The broscience I was referring to was "squats will give me wrecked joints". The bad knees part was simply thrown in as an excuse the majority of people use even if they are able bodied.
You're taking the misc way too personal lol

*edit* from Northern Ireland, now it makes sense.

[PanzerFaust]

Once at the Smoothie Factory a bro said that I should not add an extra scoop of protein because my body could handle no more than 30g at once.

[HamburgerTrain]

I can barely walk up stairs, theres a reason I can't squat heavy... its called fukked patella tendons.

What fukking broscience is there in that?

I was getting cortisone shots for the last two years of college soccer to keep playing, but you wan't me fukking squatting heavy when trainers told me I had to retire from soccer if I plan on walking when I'm older???

Fukking *******.

Box squats?

[HamburgerTrain]

Once at the Smoothie Factory a bro said that I should not add an extra scoop of protein because my body could handle no more than 30g at once.

<~~~~ 100g/meal and still alive. Smoothie Factory...