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    Work-out question

    Just started the 2nd week of the Chris gethin 12 week work out I like the workout I've done it before and made soem good gains but the question I have is!! When and what do u eat and take take my supplements I'm at the gym at 730 and I go to work at 3 and off at midnight?
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    There is no set time for food or supplements
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    There is no set time for food or supplements
    Ok thanks !! What would ur suggestion be on what to eat since I'm trying to eat right this time around working with my work schedule? I'm just starting to really get into trying to get bigger and all and trying to learn when I can
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    Originally Posted by hollister85 View Post
    Ok thanks !! What would ur suggestion be on what to eat since I'm trying to eat right this time around working with my work schedule? I'm just starting to really get into trying to get bigger and all and trying to learn when I can
    There is no set foods to eat
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    calculate your personal goals

    whatever you eat whenever you eat on a daily basis to meet these goals is irrelevant.
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    there is no need for supplements.
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    There is no need for Kris Gethin.
    "Never attempt to train yourself into a caloric deficit. Don't spend hours on the treadmill. Diet comes first, cardio second. The dumbest fat loss strategy ever devised is used by people that wake up early in the morning before going to work to do cardio and follow that up with "recovery shake." Congratulations, you just wasted two hours of your life." Martin Berkhan
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    Usually do 3 to 4 eggs with a bagel or 2 pieces of toast with some fruit with protein for breakfast, can of tuna with couple pieces of toast with protein for lunch, can tuna with a couple crackers with fruit on 1st break, usually chicken or some type of beef on lunch break and then just protein when I get home
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    Originally Posted by hollister85 View Post
    Usually do 3 to 4 eggs with a bagel or 2 pieces of toast with some fruit with protein for breakfast, can of tuna with couple pieces of toast with protein for lunch, can tuna with a couple crackers with fruit on 1st break, usually chicken or some type of beef on lunch break and then just protein when I get home
    Without knowing your TDEE and goal (bulk / cut), nobody can tell you what will work. The names of your foods have nothing to do with your resultant body composition. This is why Kris Gethin's diet is BS ... because he tells you you have to do certain things which you don't, primarily to get you to buy supplements.

    You need to find your TDEE and macro needs with the sticky from post #5, and then fill those cals and macros with foods you enjoy and consume them any time of the day you prefer.
    "Never attempt to train yourself into a caloric deficit. Don't spend hours on the treadmill. Diet comes first, cardio second. The dumbest fat loss strategy ever devised is used by people that wake up early in the morning before going to work to do cardio and follow that up with "recovery shake." Congratulations, you just wasted two hours of your life." Martin Berkhan
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    Originally Posted by hollister85 View Post
    Usually do 3 to 4 eggs with a bagel or 2 pieces of toast with some fruit with protein for breakfast, can of tuna with couple pieces of toast with protein for lunch, can tuna with a couple crackers with fruit on 1st break, usually chicken or some type of beef on lunch break and then just protein when I get home
    Ok. As said ^^^ this means nothing
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    Tdee is around 5952
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    Originally Posted by hollister85 View Post
    Tdee is around 5952
    Do you do a ridiculous amount of cardio? If not, that is way off.

    A 5ft10, 160-170lb male with reasonable body fat level, who goes gym to do weights 3-4 times a week will have a TDEE of around 2500z
    "Never attempt to train yourself into a caloric deficit. Don't spend hours on the treadmill. Diet comes first, cardio second. The dumbest fat loss strategy ever devised is used by people that wake up early in the morning before going to work to do cardio and follow that up with "recovery shake." Congratulations, you just wasted two hours of your life." Martin Berkhan
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    Originally Posted by hollister85 View Post
    Tdee is around 5952
    6000?? You sure?

    If that's the case you're severely undereating
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    Please no one say anything rude or mean to me for this as i am not suggesting its 100% true.

    I also agree it does not matter when you eat expect for one thing.

    If you are trying to bulk or maintain muscle mass, shouldn't you eat relatively close to bed time? Your body will be on a 6-9 hour fast depending on sleep time.

    So if you eat 3000 cals, stop eating at 5pm, go to bed 7 hours later at midnight and sleep for 8 hours, thats 15 hours without any calories. Isn't this bad?
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    Originally Posted by layarph View Post
    Do you do a ridiculous amount of cardio? If not, that is way off.

    A 5ft10, 160-170lb male with reasonable body fat level, who goes gym to do weights 3-4 times a week will have a TDEE of around 2500z
    Ya I don't think that's right
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    Originally Posted by hollister85 View Post
    Ya I don't think that's right

    Ha don't worry. Use the Katch McArdle formula and try again.
    "Never attempt to train yourself into a caloric deficit. Don't spend hours on the treadmill. Diet comes first, cardio second. The dumbest fat loss strategy ever devised is used by people that wake up early in the morning before going to work to do cardio and follow that up with "recovery shake." Congratulations, you just wasted two hours of your life." Martin Berkhan
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    Originally Posted by SdvsB View Post
    Please no one say anything rude or mean to me for this as i am not suggesting its 100% true.

    I also agree it does not matter when you eat expect for one thing.

    If you are trying to bulk or maintain muscle mass, shouldn't you eat relatively close to bed time? Your body will be on a 6-9 hour fast depending on sleep time.

    So if you eat 3000 cals, stop eating at 5pm, go to bed 7 hours later at midnight and sleep for 8 hours, thats 15 hours without any calories. Isn't this bad?
    No it's fine. Your body won't go catabolic (besides the constant flux)
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    No it's fine. Your body won't go catabolic (besides the constant flux)
    thank you! always wondered about that.
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    Originally Posted by hollister85 View Post
    Just started the 2nd week of the Chris gethin 12 week work out I like the workout I've done it before and made soem good gains but the question I have is!! When and what do u eat and take take my supplements I'm at the gym at 730 and I go to work at 3 and off at midnight?
    When to take supplements depends on what you have...as for food try to get in some carbs and proteins prior to workout and more protein and simple carbs postworkout. At the end of the day as long as youve hit your macros and gotten enough calories youll be good. Hope I helped a little
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    Originally Posted by LGartner View Post
    When to take supplements depends on what you have...as for food try to get in some carbs and proteins prior to workout and more protein and simple carbs postworkout. At the end of the day as long as youve hit your macros and gotten enough calories youll be good. Hope I helped a little
    Well it looks like I need to find a measuring tape to find my bf# to find my Tdee so I can everything right
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    guy with your height and weight working out a few times a week will have TDEE approx 3000 calories.

    Why don't you eat 3000 cals for 1-2 weeks and see what happens to your weight to get a picture
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    Originally Posted by hollister85 View Post
    Well it looks like I need to find a measuring tape to find my bf# to find my Tdee so I can everything right
    no need to be that neurotic. eat x amount of calories, weigh yourself one sunday then the next. adjust accordingly. for a guy your size you should lose pretty well in the mid 2000s
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    Originally Posted by weknow24 View Post
    guy with your height and weight working out a few times a week will have TDEE approx 3000 calories.

    Why don't you eat 3000 cals for 1-2 weeks and see what happens to your weight to get a picture
    Thanks that looks a lot easier! I'll give it a try
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    Originally Posted by LGartner View Post
    When to take supplements depends on what you have...as for food try to get in some carbs and proteins prior to workout and more protein and simple carbs postworkout. At the end of the day as long as youve hit your macros and gotten enough calories youll be good. Hope I helped a little
    Ignore the bold, and listen to ther underlined^^^
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