If i see someone do something which has a decent probability of doing themselves harm or injury , i will say something.
If it's just bad technique which minimises the effectiveness of an exercise, that's upto them to sort out and learn.
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12-10-2012, 09:45 AM #1
When you see a 'Beginner' do something totally Wrong in the gym, do you tell them ?
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12-10-2012, 09:47 AM #2
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12-10-2012, 09:58 AM #5
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I've found that the people who are most adamant about approaching others to instruct them on their erroneous ways are usually those who are in fact, largely ignorant themselves.
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12-10-2012, 10:08 AM #6
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Generally? No. My experience is "fitness" is one of those topics in life in which most people think an opinion equates to knowledge and so no amount of unsolicited advice is heeded. I've had guys double down on whatever bone-headed thing they were doing after I offered a tip. Pride goaded by embarassment, you know?
But if I see someone doing something dangerous to others, like obliviously overloading one side of a barbell, or lately with the young dudes, doing snatches and jerks without collars I'll say something.It's 80% diet, 20% workout and 100% in the mind.
If you can read or carry on a conversation, you ain't working out.
To be different the only thing you have to do is stand fast when the herd moves.
Parking your s**t on a bench ain't the same thing as using it!
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12-10-2012, 10:10 AM #7
I make it a point to strut around the gym, sticking my nose into others' training, and tell them my opinion of how badly they're screwing up. They always appreciate it, and thank me profusely for interrupting them with my unsolicited advices.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
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12-10-2012, 10:22 AM #9
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I only tell someone if they are a danger to themselves or other gym members. I do not care if someone wants to lift with sh*t form. If someone is throwing dumbbells like a jackass, that's a different story.
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"225, 315, 405 whatever. Yeah these benchmark digits come to mean a lot to us, the few warriors in this arena. They are, however, just numbers. I'm guilty of that sh*t too, waiting for somebody to powder my nuts cuz I did 20 reps of whatever the **** on the bench. Big f*king deal. It is all relative." G Diesel
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12-10-2012, 10:43 AM #10
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If I corrected everything I thought was wrong I wouldn't have much time for my own workout. Now I only offer to help out people with the Olympic lifts (when I see them doing something that is obviously wrong and can quickly be fixed) but even that I don't do always. I lead by example, if others choose to follow it then that is their business.
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If you never fail, you aren't truly pushing yourself to the limit. If you never push yourself to the limit, how do you know what you're truly capable of?
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12-10-2012, 10:53 AM #11
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12-10-2012, 12:12 PM #15
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No. I figure they're just gonna blow me off anyway. Some folks have tried giving me tips before, usually older folks, but they're usually wrong. Like "wide grip lat pulldowns work your back more" or "squats are good for strength but bad for your knees" or like this one time a trainer (don't think he was certified) saw me and my friend doing wide stance squats and was like "you trying to work quads or hamstrings?" with a smug look on my face...could tell he was expecting me to say quads but I let him know me and my friend were having a workout to emphasize our hamstrings and glutes that day. Had a dumbfounded look on his face and was like "oh...alright..." nodded and walked away.
If someone asks me for help or tips, I'll give them my input. I'm tempted to correct horrible form when I see it, but sometimes when I see someone doing a lift that way *I actually see someone else in the gym telling them to do it that way* which is pretty horrible if you ask me.
Maybe I'll start doing the good Samaritan thing and start bringing it up to people though. I actually hate it when people are misled (whether it's on purpose or not). Spreading accurate information helps make the world a better place. People go to the gym to improve themselves, so they shouldn't be doing stuff that's close to 100% wrong and will end up injuring them.
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12-10-2012, 12:42 PM #19
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I just got back into weight lifting earlier this year after takimg two years off. Wouldnt classify myself as a begginer but if someone came up to me and said "hey youre doing that wrong" or "you need to check your form" I wouldnt mind at all. Squats is what I need help on usually. Cant do much because of a knee injury I got in the military and my form gets shakey alot from it. Usually the insecure noobs are the ones that get bent out of shape over it.
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12-11-2012, 10:55 AM #20
I think it's gets broken down into 2 levels, like the OP said.
1. They're doing something **clearly** dangerous - bench pressing 300 pounds in the power rack without setting up the safety bars. Squatting with this expression like they're about to pass out - outside the power cage that's right in front of them. I will walk over and say something.
2. Anything else, if I feel like it I will walk by, say something small in a relaxed tone, and see if they respond in a way that encourages me to keep talking, or that they'd rather be left alone. Or I might say "I don't think you're doing that right...", pause, then if they don't respond positively go back to doing what I'm doing. I try to keep my body language and tone relaxed, like someone who's casually commented but has nothing invested in whether they want help or not.
People have the right to do stupid stuff - as long as it only hurts them - if they want to. I mean sometimes I'm using terrible form myself - but that's because I'm trying to work out something else I'm doing wrong, and it's just a temporary thing, and I don't need 5 opinions on how I'm doing it wrong. Other times, I would actually appreciate some advice.
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12-11-2012, 10:58 AM #21
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Considering I've had idiots in the gym criticize my Good Mornings as being incorrect or bad form squats; I'm figuring more often than not, I'm better off without any retards approaching me trying to offer advice.
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12-11-2012, 02:32 PM #25
you will learn a lot here
http://www.youtube.com/KanevskyFitness
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12-11-2012, 03:43 PM #27
ONLY if they're a danger to me or others. At that point it's a negative externality. I don't want to pay for someone else's stupidity; if they're going to fully internalize they're stupid **** then more power to them. I've once had a trainer tell me I was going too deep on squats... while I was in the middle of a set of triples. That **** really pissed me off.
Former member of the > 300 lb crew
--- 08/03/11: >310 lb
--- 04/26/13: 14% 190 lb
--- I always rep back, although measly atm
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12-11-2012, 03:47 PM #28
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12-11-2012, 04:18 PM #30
usually my approach as well...only i tell MYSELF in my head since i have no workout partner lol. i've been lifting (mostly) properly for a little over a year, that doesn't make me the freakin' weight room savior of souls or anything.
Originally Posted by Garage Rat
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