Is Bah�'� a troll religion?

[OllieSA]

Because the only Bah�'� I know happens to be a troll.

[NYbrah]

u just mad nobody can defeat bahai in an intellectual debate

[CuriousGM]

u just mad nobody can defeat bahai in an intellectual debate

It's like trying to play a football game but the end zone randomly teleports around and when you do manage to make it to the end zone, your touchdown still doesn't count because purple elephant bacon square.

[GregariousWolf]

Vile Bah�'�ophobe!

[Appono]

u just mad nobody can defeat bahai in an intellectual debate

Stop

[sawoobley]

u just mad nobody can defeat bahai in an intellectual debate

This. The atheists cower in fear with Bahai Lifter enters the thread. .

The sheer volume of info he puts out is amazing. I'm not sure he's human. An auto reply bot?

[NephilimRising]

Someone give me a concise summary of the Bahai religion, no way I'm reading through bahailifter's ramblings.

[tuved]

Because the only Bah�'� I know happens to be a troll.

u just mad nobody can defeat bahai in an intellectual debate

Yes, a real troll religion.

Adam, Abraham, Noah, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus and Mohammed are assumed as manifestations of God by Bahai's.
How does that make any sense? God sends down a manifestation (Buddha) who speaks out against slavery and He sends out some centuries later another manifestation who actively practices slavery!!!

God or prophet of religions that have a major following become their manifestations so as to attract the followers of that religion.
Zeus, Odin, Thor etc are not manifestations because they lack followers now.

[NephilimRising]

God is bipolar?

[Birdy69]

It's like trying to play a football game but the end zone randomly teleports around and when you do manage to make it to the end zone, your touchdown still doesn't count because purple elephant bacon square.

And without religion and Bahala, we'd all be purple elephants back in the jungle, spending our days squaring bacon.

[lasher]

Someone give me a concise summary of the Bahai religion, no way I'm reading through bahailifter's ramblings.

Every religion is true and all religious figures were manifestations of the same god. Group hug, save a tree.



Oh, and the Higgs boson proves God.

[Bahai.Lifter]

Someone give me a concise summary of the Bahai religion, no way I'm reading through bahailifter's ramblings.

In that case, if you prefer links here are some:

General info - http://info.bahai.org/

Spiritual concepts - http://www.bahai.us/welcome/spiritual-concepts/


Rainn Wilson (plays Dwight Schrute in The Office) describes the Bah�'� Faith here briefly:

[Tamorlane]

I like the religion from what i've heard of it.

[Bahai.Lifter]

Every religion is true and all religious figures were manifestations of the same god. Group hug, save a tree.

One of the common misconceptions about the Bah�'� Faith is that it's an eclectic religion, or a mix of all religions. That's definitely not the case. It's an independent world religion with its own Founder, Bah�'u'll�h; it's own teachings and books (the level of revealed scripture of the Bah�'� Faith would probably equal hundreds of Bibles in terms of amount; much still remains to be translated into English from the original Persian and Arabic); its own Books of Laws, and so on.

Also, the Bah�'� Faith says that religion is progressive, which means that throughout the ages God sends new Manifestations to earth, to bring new Teachings. The Manifestations that have been mentioned in the Bah�'� Scriptures are: Abraham, Moses, Krishna, Zoroaster, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, the B�b, and Bah�'u'll�h.

Each Manifestation brings the new Teachings of God which apply to His Day, that is, the exigencies and needs of that age.

The Bah�'� Faith is therefore the newest Revelation of God for humanity. It has the newest Teachings from God, which are needed for today so that the universal brotherhood and the "Heaven on Earth" or Kingdom of God may appear on this earth, if you will (as the past religions have prophesied).

About the need for religion to be renewed down the ages, the Bah�'� Scriptures say:

"And now concerning thy question regarding the nature of religion. Know thou that they who are truly wise have likened the world unto the human temple. As the body of man needeth a garment to clothe it, so the body of mankind must needs be adorned with the mantle of justice and wisdom. Its robe is the Revelation vouchsafed unto it by God. Whenever this robe hath fulfilled its purpose, the Almighty will assuredly renew it. For every age requireth a fresh measure of the light of God. Every Divine Revelation hath been sent down in a manner that befitted the circumstances of the age in which it hath appeared."

(Gleanings from the Writings of Bah�u�ll�h, XXXIV)

So based on the passage we see that when old religions have fulfilled their purpose, God again renews religion for mankind by sending humanity a new Manifestation, Who "renews" the Religion of God.

More on the "Oneness of Religion" and "Progressive Revelation" -

http://info.bahai.org/article-1-4-0-4.html

http://www.bahai.us/2011/02/09/progressive-revelation/

http://bahaikipedia.org/Progressive_revelation

[Merauder]

The central theme of Bah�'u'll�h's message is that humanity is one single race and that the day has come for its unification in one global society

Obviously Illuminati.

[ZioBot]

I like the religion from what i've heard of it.

this. plus he seems a cool calm dude.

[Bahai.Lifter]

This. The atheists cower in fear with Bahai Lifter enters the thread. .

The Bah�'� Faith welcomes everyone, including atheists, to investigate; and many atheists who have investigated have in fact become Bah�'�s, such as in this example of a hardcore atheist who studied the Bah�'� Faith and then converted:

[primetime32]

It's like trying to play a football game but the end zone randomly teleports around and when you do manage to make it to the end zone, your touchdown still doesn't count because purple elephant bacon square.

lmao, post of the year (so far)

[Harbinger]

It's like trying to play a football game but the end zone randomly teleports around and when you do manage to make it to the end zone, your touchdown still doesn't count because purple elephant bacon square.

He's on spread, can you all rep him for me?

[Bahai.Lifter]

Here are some prophesies (set to music) of the past religions (previously mentioned) regarding this Day:

The pictures of gardens and temples in the video are pictures of the Bah�'� World Centre in Haifa, Israel, and 'Akk�, Israel.




Another video about Bah�'u'll�h; the first half shows images associated with the different places He was exiled to (He was persecuted by the major Islamic powers at the time, the Iranian government and Ottomans, banished to many countries, and finally to what was considered the worst penal colony of the Ottoman empire, which was 'Akk�).




About His exiles and persecution for bringing to mankind this new Revelation from God, Bah�'u'll�h writes:

The Ancient Beauty hath consented to be bound with chains that mankind may be released from its bondage, and hath accepted to be made a prisoner within this most mighty Stronghold that the whole world may attain unto true liberty. He hath drained to its dregs the cup of sorrow, that all the peoples of the earth may attain unto abiding joy, and be filled with gladness. This is of the mercy of your Lord, the Compassionate, the Most Merciful. We have accepted to be abased, O believers in the Unity of God, that ye may be exalted, and have suffered manifold afflictions, that ye might prosper and flourish. He Who hath come to build anew the whole world, behold, how they that have joined partners with God have forced Him to dwell within the most desolate of cities!

Bah�'u'll�h says, about this new Revelation from God:

O SON OF SPIRIT! With the joyful tidings of light I hail thee: rejoice! To the court of holiness I summon thee; abide therein that thou mayest live in peace for evermore.

The Revelation which, from time immemorial, hath been acclaimed as the Purpose and Promise of all the Prophets of God, and the most cherished Desire of His Messengers, hath now, by virtue of the pervasive Will of the Almighty and at His irresistible bidding, been revealed unto men.

Verily I say, this is the Day in which mankind can behold the Face, and hear the Voice, of the Promised One. The Call of God hath been raised, and the light of His countenance hath been lifted up upon men. It behoveth every man to blot out the trace of every idle word from the tablet of his heart, and to gaze, with an open and unbiased mind, on the signs of His Revelation, the proofs of His Mission, and the tokens of His glory.

Great indeed is this Day! The allusions made to it in all the sacred Scriptures as the Day of God attest its greatness. The soul of every Prophet of God, of every Divine Messenger, hath thirsted for this wondrous Day. All the divers kindreds of the earth have, likewise, yearned to attain it. No sooner, however, had the Day Star of His Revelation manifested itself in the heaven of God’s Will, than all, except those whom the Almighty was pleased to guide, were found dumbfounded and heedless.

O thou that hast remembered Me! The most grievous veil hath shut out the peoples of the earth from His glory, and hindered them from hearkening to His call. God grant that the light of unity may envelop the whole earth, and that the seal, “the Kingdom is God’s”, may be stamped upon the brow of all its peoples.

O CONCOURSE of bishops! Trembling hath seized all the kindreds of the earth, and He Who is the Everlasting Father calleth aloud between earth and heaven. Blessed the ear that hath heard, and the eye that hath seen, and the heart that hath turned unto Him Who is the Point of Adoration of all who are in the heavens and all who are on earth….

He—glorified be His mention—resembleth the sun. Were unnumbered mirrors to be placed before it, each would, according to its capacity, reflect the splendor of that sun, and were none to be placed before it, it would still continue to rise and set, and the mirrors alone would be veiled from its light. I, verily, have not fallen short of My duty to admonish that people, and to devise means whereby they may turn towards God, their Lord, and believe in God, their Creator. If, on the day of His Revelation, all that are on earth bear Him allegiance, Mine inmost being will rejoice, inasmuch as all will have attained the summit of their existence, and will have been brought face to face with their Beloved, and will have recognized, to the fullest extent attainable in the world of being, the splendor of Him Who is the Desire of their hearts. If not, My soul will indeed be saddened. I truly have nurtured all things for this purpose. How, then, can anyone be veiled from Him? For this have I called upon God, and will continue to call upon Him. He, verily, is nigh, ready to answer.

[tuved]

One of the common misconceptions about the Bah�'� Faith is that it's an eclectic religion, or a mix of all religions. That's definitely not the case. It's an independent world religion with its own Founder, Bah�'u'll�h; it's own teachings and books (the level of revealed scripture of the Bah�'� Faith would probably equal hundreds of Bibles in terms of amount; much still remains to be translated into English from the original Persian and Arabic); its own Books of Laws, and so on.

Also, the Bah�'� Faith says that religion is progressive, which means that throughout the ages God sends new Manifestations to earth, to bring new Teachings. The Manifestations that have been mentioned in the Bah�'� Scriptures are: Abraham, Moses, Krishna, Zoroaster, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, the B�b, and Bah�'u'll�h.

Each Manifestation brings the new Teachings of God which apply to His Day, that is, the exigencies and needs of that age.

My question is simple.

God sends Abraham, Moses, Zoroaster who all endorse slavery. He then sends Buddha who condemns slavery and prohibits its practice. God next sends Jesus who does not condone slavery but does not address it. And then comes Mohammed who actively practices slavery.

Each Manifestation brings new Teachings of God?

[tuved]

Here are some prophesies (set to music) of the past religions (previously mentioned)

What past prophecies has Bab or Bahai'ullah fulfilled? Rid the world of evil as predicted by the major world religions?
No. In fact after his "manifestation" two of the biggest wars, greatest genocides, killings have all taken place.

So who is Bahai kidding?

[germanyt]

It's like trying to play a football game but the end zone randomly teleports around and when you do manage to make it to the end zone, your touchdown still doesn't count because purple elephant bacon square.

Lulz

[germanyt]

Just out of curiosity. How do you pronounce Bahai? I always read it as Buh high

[Bahai.Lifter]

Just out of curiosity. How do you pronounce Bahai?

The name's mentioned in the videos, like the Rainn Wilson one.

[germanyt]

The name's mentioned in the videos, like the Rainn Wilson one.

Aha. I was reading it right then.

[Bahai.Lifter]

Just out of curiosity. How do you pronounce Bahai? I always read it as Buh high

Name mentioned at the beginning of this video, but you're right.

[Bahai.Lifter]

This. The atheists cower in fear with Bahai Lifter enters the thread. .

I'm not against atheists or anyone else just because I believe in God; because God gave us all free will for each one of us to decide individually what we want to do with our lives. To me it's like being offered all the treasures of the earth; if someone doesn't want all the treasures (e.g., eternal delight), why should you be against him? That's his decision which you can respect, one can only worry about bettering himself.

We are all sinners, so also as a general principle, the Bah�'� Hidden Words instruct us: "O SON OF MAN! Breathe not the sins of others so long as thou art thyself a sinner. Shouldst thou transgress this command, accursed wouldst thou be, and to this I bear witness."

[Tamorlane]

My question is simple.

God sends Abraham, Moses, Zoroaster who all endorse slavery. He then sends Buddha who condemns slavery and prohibits its practice. God next sends Jesus who does not condone slavery but does not address it. And then comes Mohammed who actively practices slavery.

Each Manifestation brings new Teachings of God?

The 'prophets' represent the "god" consciousness that humanity possesses. It is why all of the teachings point to the same thing, a supreme realization behind the illusion of our separation. Being good to your neighbor and yourself, seeking out wisdom, knowledge, spiritual teachings and practicing the teachings can help facilitate it. To consider these 'prophets' on another level is wrong, and contradictory to their teachings. A sort of 'we all bleed red' philosophy. Compassion for the human condition, and an attempt to transcend it. As for the slavery, all beings incarnate are subjected to the ego (aka Mara and Satan -- who tempted these men during their deep meditation). A prophet is not necessarily fully enlightened like the Buddha, who was so in touch with this 'consciousness' that he could not deviate from it. Many branches of Hinduism see both Krishna and Buddha as avatars of Vishnu. The Buddha himself claimed that he was not a God nor descendant, that he was born a man and woke to his true nature. This doesn't mean he was not a prophet for humanity/consciousness and the entities that incarnate.

[Bahai.Lifter]

The 'prophets' represent the "god" consciousness that humanity possesses. It is why all of the teachings point to the same thing, a supreme realization behind the illusion of our separation. Being good to your neighbor and yourself, seeking out wisdom, knowledge, spiritual teachings and practicing the teachings can help facilitate it.

Exactly, all the underlying truths or essential teachings are the same, for example the golden rule which is found in all the great religions. The only aspects of religions that differ are the "non-essential" teachings, which refers to teachings which can change depending on the needs of the age (e.g., dietary laws would be an obvious example, etc.).

To consider these 'prophets' on another level is wrong, and contradictory to their teachings. A sort of 'we all bleed red' philosophy. Compassion for the human condition, and an attempt to transcend it. As for the slavery, all beings incarnate are subjected to the ego (aka Mara and Satan -- who tempted these men during their deep meditation). A prophet is not necessarily fully enlightened like the Buddha, who was so in touch with this 'consciousness' that he could not deviate from it.

The Prophets or Manifestations indeed only revealed what people were capable of handling and what was needed in a particular age. As mankind matured, humans were ready for newer or more mature teachings. These newer teachings are given by the Bah�'� Faith. Things like slavery, holy war, backbiting, fighting (physically or even non-physically) in the name of religion are all completely forbidden. The Bah�'� Teachings are what are needed for us as a human race to mature beyond all the wars and fighting we have now, and arrive at the destiny of universal brotherhood and harmony which human beings will achieve.